Pink I.D Card & Yellow Book

[Rotweiler]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Why do you want it? what have you heard about it? great benefits?

Some people insist there are no benefits from a Yellow Book and a Pink Card.  Some people believe in nonsense spouted by people not even in Thailand.  You seem to be one of those.

[scubascuba3]

6 minutes ago, Rotweiler said:

Some people insist there are no benefits from a Yellow Book and a Pink Card.  Some people believe in nonsense spouted by people not even in Thailand.  You seem to be one of those.

I live here, you are talking garbage, but for some reason content that you have a yellow book, sad life

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, Rotweiler said:

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Why do you want it? what have you heard about it? great benefits?

Some people insist there are no benefits from a Yellow Book and a Pink Card.  Some people believe in nonsense spouted by people not even in Thailand.  You seem to be one of those.

 

Ignore the nay sayers - they've polluted enough Pink ID threads over the past year already.

 

If someone thinks they have a use for the Pink ID card and want to get one, then thats what the thread should be about...  not whether someone who doesn't have the car thinks its worth while getting or not.

 

The best info has already been provided: 

- Go to the local Amphur Office and ask for a list of requirements. 

- The part which takes the most effort is usually getting an 'MFA verified translation of an Embassy Certified Copy of your Passport'...  (of which there are a few steps to get)

 

 

1) Appointment with embassy - obtain a Notarised / Certified Copy of your Passport

2) Get that Copy Translated (plenty of official tranlsation services at MFA building who'll translate within the hour).

3) Get that Translation certified by the MFA (they'll post the certification back to you within a few days).

 

... then of course there are other things you will need...  but its best to get a full list from your Amphur office. 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

I live here, you are talking garbage, but for some reason content that you have a yellow book, sad life

 

Whether you life here or not - its beside the point - Op is looking for help and info to get a Yellow House Book and Pink ID... Not your opinion on whether YOU think it is if any use or not.

 

Otherwise - this would be equivalent to a thread asking about whether to get an Electric Vehicle... and you replying with argument stating why you don't think it necessary to get a car at all - its completely off point.

 

 

If you just can't resist putting your opinion out there - go for it, this thread discusses the pros and con's and much debate about the hassle is it worth it etc... 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1145755-what-are-the-good-and-bad-points-of-having-a-yellow-book/

 

[KannikaP]

27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

The part which takes the most effort is usually getting an 'MFA verified translation of an Embassy Certified Copy of your Passport'...  (of which there are a few steps to get)

Did not need this in my little Amphur office, thankfully. 

[KhunLA]

I use quite often, when anyone asks me for ID, like guesthouses.  Rare they ask, as wife does the checking in.   

 

If need to give someone my name & address, it's easier just to hand them my  pink ID instead of talking to them.

 

If someone asks for my passport, I'll hand them pink ID first, and 9 out of 10 times, that will satisfy.   Less people handling my passport, the better.

 

Yellow book is way too handy, when needing to prove your address to govt offices / services, or utility companies.

Edited October 15 by KhunLA

[scubascuba3]

45 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Ignore the nay sayers - they've polluted enough Pink ID threads over the past year already.

You guys always start clutching your pearls on these yellow book threads, stay calm, it's just another opinion

[Purdey]

Got my pink card from the local district office. Pretty smooth except for a ridiculous request for my parents' names and address. I told them my parents had passed away at least ten years previously so they didn't have a house now. Anyhow, I gave their names and the last address before they passed away. 

Then they asked for the telephone number. I gave it to them and said, if you call them please give them my regards.

The officer nearly fell of his chair.

 

P.S. the blue book helped speed up the driving license renewal. Don't ask me why.

Edited October 15 by Purdey

[Liquorice]

2 hours ago, Bangkok Black said:

I could do this in Bangkok or Prachin Buri.

You can only be registered in one Yellow book, so make a choice.

 

The Civilian Registration Act 2008 states;
Section 38: The district or local registrar shall issue a household registration for persons without Thai nationality having been permitted to stay temporarily and those having been giving leniency for temporary residence in the Thai Kingdom as a special case in accordance with law on immigration and the declaration of the Cabinet and their children born within the Thai Kingdom. In a case of permission of temporary residence overdue, the registrar shall immediately dispose of such persons.

 

First check the requirements at your Amphoe.
These days most will request an Embassy certified copy of your passport, translated to Thai, then legalised by the Consular section of the MFA.
Some may also request an Embassy certified copy of your Birth certificate, translated to Thai, then legalised by the Consular section of the MFA.

There is no requirement to be married or own property, but you do require the permission of the homeowner to register at their address.

 

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs have now opened several Consular offices throughout the Country for legalising documents, by appointment only.

1. 123 Chaeng Watthana Road, Lak Si District, Bangkok 10210

2. MBK CENTER Shopping Mall, 5th floor, Zone A, Phaya Thai Road, Wang Mai Subdistrict, Pathum Wan District, Bangkok

3. Central Pattaya Shopping Center, 4th Floor, No. 333/102, Village No. 9, Nongprue Subdistrict, Bang Lamung District, Chonburi Province 20260

4. 7th Cycle Birthday Anniversary International Convention and Exhibition Center, 1st floor, Rueng Phueng Building 2,
Muang District, Chiang Mai Province

5. Ubon Ratchathani Provincial Hall Building, 1st floor, back west side, Ubon Ratchathani Province

6. Temporary Passport Office, Songkhla, Laem Son On Road, Bo Yang Subdistrict, Mueang District, Songkhla Province 90000

7. Central Phuket Festival Shopping Mall, B Floor, Wichit Subdistrict, Mueang District, Phuket Province

 

Office locations, maps, contact numbers

https://consular.mfa.go.th/th/publicservice/สถานที่ให้บริการรับรองนิติกรณ์เอกสาร

 

You must book an appointment here https://qlegal.consular.go.th/customer/index choosing which office and download the barcode once accepted.

 

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Ignore the nay sayers - they've polluted enough Pink ID threads over the past year already.

You guys always start clutching your pearls on these yellow book threads, stay calm, it's just another opinion

 

Indeed... the repetitive misinformation irrelevant to the thread itself is an irritant...    kind of like the forum equivalent of Chlamydia - needs treating with some antibiotic comments before the BS spreads... 

 

 

[Middle Aged Grouch]

Written laws and rules change depending on the local Amphur and the mood of the officer in charge.

 

Thus, if you are in an area where the chap in charge hates foreigners and is jealous of their XL lifestyle, much better off to take a lawyer to handle and assist in person with you mainly when going to the local government offices.

Edited October 15 by Middle Aged Grouch

[jayboy]

6 hours ago, Sandboxer said:

Just realize that the moment you have a pink card, you also have a Thai tax ID # (the 13 digit # on top of the card).

 

 

 

No you don't.It may be the same number but you will still need to apply for a TIN.

[Lorry]

7 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Be married and have a house.

This is generally not true.

It may be true in some amphoes.

Energy amphoe is different

7 hours ago, Sandboxer said:

Just realize that the moment you have a pink card, you also have a Thai tax ID # (the 13 digit # on top of the card).

 

These days it's really an idiot move to get this otherwise useless card.

 

I made the same mistake.

This is also not true.

 The number on the pink card can be used as a TIN, if you register it as such. 

It is not automatically a TIN.

7 hours ago, transam said:

Go to your local office and ask what they require, they seem to be all different. Be sure to have a Thai doing the talking....😉

Best advice.

[NoDisplayName]

53 minutes ago, Lorry said:

The number on the pink card can be used as a TIN, if you register it as such. 

It is not automatically a TIN.

 

Not 1000% sure, but I believe it is, and can be used for filing paper returns.

 

AFAIK it's only when filing online that the pink ID number must be activated in the system.

[CallumWK]

8 hours ago, Sandboxer said:

Just realize that the moment you have a pink card, you also have a Thai tax ID # (the 13 digit # on top of the card).

 

I got my tax ID about 3 - 4 years after I got my pink card. Completely different numbers.

 

My Pink ID has saved me many certificates of residence not needed, for driver license and other facilities.

I wanted to open a 1.9% term deposit with CIMB, which required to be an individual with a Thai identification number.

The pink ID card was sufficient, otherwise no account.

I have accounts with other banks that required a pink card, otherwise no account. GSB and Bangkok bank are just 2 of them.

I have registered post paid phone number, for which I needed the pink card, otherwise no postpaid.

There are many other things I was only able to do because I have a pink card

Edited October 15 by CallumWK

[Lorry]

6 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Not 1000% sure, but I believe it is, and can be used for filing paper returns.

 

AFAIK it's only when filing online that the pink ID number must be activated in the system.

 

You may have a pink ID already, but when you go to the revenue office to file your first (paper) return,  they may still issue you a different PIN. 

[Lorry]

4 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

I got my tax ID about 3 - 4 years after I got my pink card. Completely different numbers

Some people have 3 13-digit Thai ID numbers (you got one when you got covid vaccines, another one for pink card, another one for TIN)

[NoDisplayName]

24 minutes ago, Lorry said:

 

You may have a pink ID already, but when you go to the revenue office to file your first (paper) return,  they may still issue you a different PIN. 

 

I had a TIN from before the covids, last year got a pink ID.  Tried to file online, but neither number was recognized.

 

Went to district TRD office, was told Pink ID was my tax number.  TIN was cancelled and provincial office activated pink ID number in the online system.

[Maestro]

10 hours ago, Upnotover said:

I know that it is the same number but is there any real connection between the tax office and the card/book?  In other words having had a yellow book since 2009 can I expect a letter from the taxman at the registered address if I have never actually had any dealings with them?

 

No.

 

I got my yellow book, for the condo I own, and subsequently the pink Thai ID card for foreigners years ago but never got any mail or anything else from the Thai Revenue Department. 

 

Basically, I got these documents just for fun, for souvenirs, to experience the process, but the yellow book came in handy when I felt like putting a million Baht in a time deposit account at a branch of Siam Commercial Bank (SCB). The nice lady asked if I had a work permit, which I did not have and I inquired if my house registration book would help and her face lit up with a smile and the account was opened in a jiffy.

[scubascuba3]

6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Indeed... the repetitive misinformation irrelevant to the thread itself is an irritant...    kind of like the forum equivalent of Chlamydia - needs treating with some antibiotic comments before the BS spreads... 

 

 

Don't know what you are talking about, everyone I've said is 100% accurate 

[cooked]

13 hours ago, Sandboxer said:

Just realize that the moment you have a pink card, you also have a Thai tax ID # (the 13 digit # on top of the card).

 

These days it's really an idiot move to get this otherwise useless card.

 

I made the same mistake.

My granddaughter just spent three months allocating TIN's to people that didn't have one., including some Thais. If you don't know your number yet, you will when the time comes.

[Max Brok]

13 hours ago, Rob Browder said:

The best reason is if you are working here (for over a year, while paying Thai-SS), and want to keep your Thai-SS health-insurance going after your job ends - saving a huge pile of money vs private-insurance.  Without your Pink-ID + Yellow-Book, you will not be able to do this.  Due to the sometimes-long delay-time between application to receipt, this should be done well before one's job ends.

 

A yellow-book also precludes needing to get CORs, in many/most cases - though probably not worth it for this reason alone, unless your Amphoe isn't a PITA about it (like mine was).

And now explain the secret language of Thai-SS, PITA and CORs?

[gamb00ler]

9 minutes ago, Max Brok said:

And now explain the secret language of Thai-SS, PITA and CORs?

Thai-SS = social security provided by Thai government, I'm not clear on what is offered

PITA= pain in the ass

COR =  certificate of residency (a letter issued by Thai Imm. to prove your home address)

[Utalk2mutt]

Got mine yesterday. In my Amphur the requirement was to be married (Amphur  Si Bun Rueang, Province Nong Bua Lamphu). Married a month ago requirements were to provide my marriage certificate, passport, translations from the British Embassy of my passport and a copy of the affidavit to say I could legally marry ( why as I am already married?).

 

Amphur then gave me a form which I had to take to my local Immigration office. On this form were various questions which Immigration needed to answer and then send back to my Amphur. No idea what was being asked. Took Immigration about 2 weeks to do this documentation and get it to my  Amphur (no monetary charge for this).  
 

Amphur then contacted me and all was completed yesterday. As others have said  in some Amphurs there is no requirement to even be married. I would also add that it is likely some Amphurs would require a lot more documentation while others less after all this is Thailand.

[24Catty]

48 minutes ago, Utalk2mutt said:

Got mine yesterday. In my Amphur the requirement was to be married (Amphur  Si Bun Rueang, Province Nong Bua Lamphu). Married a month ago requirements were to provide my marriage certificate, passport, translations from the British Embassy of my passport and a copy of the affidavit to say I could legally marry ( why as I am already married?).

 

Amphur then gave me a form which I had to take to my local Immigration office. On this form were various questions which Immigration needed to answer and then send back to my Amphur. No idea what was being asked. Took Immigration about 2 weeks to do this documentation and get it to my  Amphur (no monetary charge for this).  
 

Amphur then contacted me and all was completed yesterday. As others have said  in some Amphurs there is no requirement to even be married. I would also add that it is likely some Amphurs would require a lot more documentation while others less after all this is Thailand.

wow

lots of rules,  made up out of thin air

TIT, indeed 

 

the requirement to be married is actually running against Thai law which requires every resident in the kingdom to be registered in a housebook

 

asking immigration about a foreigner makes a lot more sense,   but is something I have never heard of

[bigt3116]

12 hours ago, Liquorice said:

There is no requirement to be married or own property, but you do require the permission of the homeowner to register at their address.

 

Do you know if you would still need their permission if you have a usurfuct (20 year) on the property?

 

Obviously my name is on the back of the chanote

 

 

[MPoll]

For me, in Sisaket province, it was a process that took about a day and half over 5 days (there was a weekend in between). I had to get my passport translated and at the same time I was asked about my family tree which was also documented and translated. I had to drive an hour to the Sisaket immigration office to get a document. After the weekend we had an appointment to talk with a local official. I needed my wife, mother-in-law, and the village headman to vouch for me. They then approved the yellow book and I went across the hall to get my pink card. 

 

Recently I was talking to my previous Bangkok condo landlord about renting the condo again. I mentioned getting a yellow book and she nodded yes as if it was an easy thing to do. 

 

It was a bigger process than either my wife or I expected.

Edited October 16 by MPoll

[MPoll]

16 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Why do you want it? what have you heard about it? great benefits?

 

I got it about the same time the US embassy stopped giving residency affidavits. I used the yellow book to purchase a motorbike.

 

I use the pink ID as my ID often instead of my passport. I have a Thai driver's license but I usually show them the pink ID.

 

I opened a bank account recently using my passport, yellow book, and pink ID. As an American I was expecting resistance but they were actually very welcoming and it took less than an hour to set up the new account. I can only speculate that having all three ID's helped smooth the way.

 

I was recently inquiring about getting a tax ID but, as someone else mentioned, my tax ID is my pink ID. I saved some money and effort not getting a tax ID.

 

Slightly off topic - I needed to get a login to my US Social Security account. There was an identification process and the pink ID turned out to be the only photo ID with my current address. 

Edited October 16 by MPoll

[steve187]

15 hours ago, Klonko said:

As said, the Pink ID includes the TIN, which I need to  recover or avoid withholding interest on my Thai bank accounts. Sooner or later my foreign banks will request a Thai TIN anyway. Further, AFAIK, I will not have to carry my passport with me, which I currently do when travelling within Thailand. 

pink id card doesn't prove your immigration status, hotels will still need passport to file tm30.

[jippytum]

Depends where you live. I had to jump through hoops to get mine from Pattaya city hall. 

Would i do it again never. 

Despite what you read on this forum the card has little benifit compared to the hassle to get one.