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Why do decent Americans support trump


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1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

Are you going to back up your crap from last night or swept it under the carpet ?

You mean about Trump wanting to imprison his political enemies for their opposition to him?

 

Do you support Trump locking up his enemies?

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I have almost zero interest in US politics.  But considering your question, I would guess that the answer is 'desperation'.  This is similar to what's happening in the UK, where mainstream politicians seem to ignore the genuine concerns of many people over immigration, labeling them as far-right or fascists. 

 

This is a dangerous  situation, which only forces people to turn in desperation to those politicians who do seem to hear their concerns, and that may mean a hard-right politician or a nut job....

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1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

You mean about Trump wanting to imprison his political enemies for their opposition to him?

 

Do you support Trump locking up his enemies?

I think Trump should be jailed forever, now show me your evidence

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Let's face it, the USA is not a democracy when it only has two choices for president. Both of them are millionaire elites, and I guess trump is seen as an alternative to the boring continuation of the direction of the USA I think going in for the last few years.

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I know some will disagree with me but...

In response to the opening question:

 

Decent Americans do not support Trump.

 

There, that ought to trigger a few members.

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11 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Ordinary folk disagree that the USA is doing well. They think the country is on the wrong track by a 2 to 1 margin.  


This thread illustrates the usual divide between left and right.  I think it is possible for a lot of decent Americans to support Harris. They aren't idiots or deluded or anything like that. Just wrong IMHO.  Yet it is so so so hard for those on the left to admit the same about Trump. 

If Trump supporters aren't being deluded by lies & propaganda why did FOX pay $787.5 million for telling election lies?

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1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Facts, logic and reason are abandoned.

 

IMO people who support Trump live in a moral vacuum, where lies become truth.

Harris is a liar and a cheater and was banging a married man to advance her political career.

 

Harris also pretends to support women while staying silent about her nanny-banging, baby-killing, woman-beating husband. 

 

What facts, logic and reason show Trump to be a fascist? 

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1 minute ago, mogandave said:

Harris is a liar and a cheater and was banging a married man to advance her political career.

 

Harris also pretends to support women while staying silent about her nanny-banging, baby-killing, woman-beating husband. 

 

What facts, logic and reason show Trump to be a fascist? 

And over mothering, when her stepchildren are 30 & 25

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1 minute ago, Mazungu said:

If Trump supporters aren't being deluded by lies & propaganda why did FOX pay $787.5 million for telling election lies?

Fox has less that two million viewers a day. 

 

I do not watch Fox, and I don’t know anyone that does. 

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20 hours ago, xylophone said:

A recent post by @Mazungu was deemed unacceptable because it came from a "social media" website and according to the AN rules and regulations and was therefore closed. I for one, have no problems with that because the integrity of the AN website and posts has to be kept intact.

 

However some of the content did raise a few questions for me and I would like to explore these in my own words, rather than it being deigned "typical standard swill from a leftist website...... so the questions I have for the trump supporters are as follows: –

 

– Why do you throw your support behind a convicted felon, and yes they are bona fide convictions and not from "lefties" as you tend to label them?

 

– How on earth can you support a man who helped incite the first attack on the US capital since 1812, to attempt a coup which could have possibly succeeded if it weren't for a VP who stood staunch against this attack. And before the answers take the "it was only a minor rally" route, then consider how many of the attackers have been jailed so far, found guilty by juries containing both GOP and Democrat supporters?

 

– If you are looking for a president who is basically honest (and please don't come back at me with the standard quip; all politicians lie response), because maybe they do tell the occasional untruth, but trump has been documented as having told over 30,000 lies and mistruths during and after his presidency so how do you support a man like that?

 

– He has cheated on his wives, paid hookers hush money to keep quiet and demeaned women in general, so has very low to non-existent morals.

 

– Rather than take up too many pages, this will be the last; he has denigrated an American war hero and American war veterans and mocked the disabled, so how can you support a "so-called" man like this.

 

Finally, trump is not respected by other world leaders because they have first-hand experience of speaking with him, that he is not the "sharpest knife in the drawer" and the CEOs from America's top companies have labelled him "dumb" and "he doesn't know what he's talking about"! Surely their word has to mean something in today's world??

The similarities in Madison SG are too close to 1939 (same place).

Trump is undoubtedly a Fascist and does the same as Goebbels in the 3rd Reich. He's a demagogue (but not as intelligent as his counterpart Goebbels).

Trump is not far away from being called a Nazi, but he works on it.

Shame on you, America, if you did the same mistake as Germany with Hitler.

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11 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

The similarities in Madison SG are too close to 1939 (same place).

Trump is undoubtedly a Fascist and does the same as Goebbels in the 3rd Reich. He's a demagogue (but not as intelligent as his counterpart Goebbels).

Trump is not far away from being called a Nazi, but he works on it.

Shame on you, America, if you did the same mistake as Germany with Hitler.

What were the similarities? 

 

It was in New York both times, that’s enough for the left.

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57 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

We don't know the results of this election yet. Let's wait until after the votes are counted.

If they can be.

 

There have been two attempts to burn ballot boxes. I am guessing it was not Democrats who were responsible.

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1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

If they can be.

 

There have been two attempts to burn ballot boxes. I am guessing it was not Democrats who were responsible.

i believe it was in Portland, where the lefts 'summer of love' happened and CHAZ was in independent state, so a good possibility

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8 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Uhh, the government runs the courts in the US. 

 

Where are you from? 

 

 

Protect Democracy released what it terms a guide to determining whether the federal charges against Mr. Trump represent politicized justice or accountability. Boiled down, the guide asks three questions. 

First, is there evidence suggesting political interference with the Justice Department investigation? 

Second, is there evidence to support the indictment, and is Mr. Trump being treated as others in a similar situation would be?

Third, are courts and judges upholding Justice Department actions?

The analysis argues that all these criteria have been met – that President Biden has insulated himself from the federal cases, the cases are solid, and the legal system is working. 

“Based on what we currently know, the answers to these key questions support the conclusion that an independent Justice Department is properly seeking to hold Trump accountable,” says Protect Democracy in its guide.

 

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2023/0809/Trump-indictments-How-to-tell-if-they-re-political

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5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

If they can be.

 

There have been two attempts to burn ballot boxes. I am guessing it was not Democrats who were responsible.

Meanwhile, the Biden-Harris Administration is suing to keep illegal aliens on the voter rolls and stopping and investigation of voter registration fraud. 

 

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