Why do decent Americans support trump

[mogandave]

1 hour ago, Mazungu said:

Illegal voting by noncitizens is rare. Where is your evidence that says there are illegal aliens on the voter rolls? And it matters if it's a dozen or a thousand or 10 thousand. Please post your evidence or source. 

 

https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/elections/2024/illegal-voting-by-noncitizens-is-rare-yet-republicans-are-making-it-a-major-issue-this-election/

The people Harris is trying to keep on the voter roles checked non-citizen on their driver license application. and were notified over a month ago to update their status and and have not. 

 

At first you claimed non one would dare, now you’re claiming it’s rare. So dishonest 

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

 

 

Care to try again and come up with a state that has a total abortion ban?

There are a bunch, but no need to educate a Canadian about this.

[baansgr]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Don't be ridiculous. 

Nowhere near that percentage of Americans are in the maga fascist cult.

It's not really my call not being a US citizen and am always open to dialogue but can see from your post it would be pointless. Straight off the bat you call Trump and his supporters fascists adhering to some mad cult, that just isn't true, and in no way would I say you are a retarded liberal traitor as I respect everyone's opinion to make their views vocal unlike fascists..you know Hitler, Mussolini, Franco..all fascist Dictators closing down free speech with violence. MSM and sly news especially paint him and his followers as fascists but they are all controlled left wing media outlets. Anyway, the next few weeks will see the outcome, good luck to you and every US citizen and hope you get the result you desire

[Mazungu]

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

The people Harris is trying to keep on the voter roles checked non-citizen on their driver license application. and were notified over a month ago to update their status and and have not. 

 

At first you claimed non one would dare, now you’re claiming it’s rare. So dishonest 

Please post the source of your claim. 

 

I guess you caught me. Most likely a few illegal Trumpsters voting. 

[Denim]

I'd like to know why most Americans are currently foaming at the mouth over politics. I can't think of any other nationality that gets so worked up over an election. Such strong feelings from people who are supposed to be adults and act accordingly.  People are losing their grip . Another example of a storm in a tea cup :

 

Two women removed from BA flight ‘after altercation over Maga cap’

 

Two women were removed from a British Airways flight at Heathrow after an altercation reportedly provoked by a Make America Great Again (Maga) cap.

The incident occurred on Saturday as the women, aged 40 and 60, were preparing to board a flight bound for Austin, Texas.

 

Witnesses said that one woman took offence at her fellow passenger’s red Maga hat, worn by supporters of the former US president Donald Trump, and asked that it be removed, the Sun reported.

 

Punches were allegedly exchanged between the two women, both booked to fly in premium economy

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/30/two-women-removed-from-ba-flight-after-altercation-over-maga-cap

 

And when this election is over will that be the end of it.  Nope . They will rake over the ashes ad nauseum.

 

[dinsdale]

On 10/29/2024 at 12:27 PM, xylophone said:

A recent post by @Mazungu was deemed unacceptable because it came from a "social media" website and according to the AN rules and regulations and was therefore closed. I for one, have no problems with that because the integrity of the AN website and posts has to be kept intact.

 

However some of the content did raise a few questions for me and I would like to explore these in my own words, rather than it being deigned "typical standard swill from a leftist website...... so the questions I have for the trump supporters are as follows: –

 

– Why do you throw your support behind a convicted felon, and yes they are bona fide convictions and not from "lefties" as you tend to label them?

 

– How on earth can you support a man who helped incite the first attack on the US capital since 1812, to attempt a coup which could have possibly succeeded if it weren't for a VP who stood staunch against this attack. And before the answers take the "it was only a minor rally" route, then consider how many of the attackers have been jailed so far, found guilty by juries containing both GOP and Democrat supporters?

 

– If you are looking for a president who is basically honest (and please don't come back at me with the standard quip; all politicians lie response), because maybe they do tell the occasional untruth, but trump has been documented as having told over 30,000 lies and mistruths during and after his presidency so how do you support a man like that?

 

– He has cheated on his wives, paid hookers hush money to keep quiet and demeaned women in general, so has very low to non-existent morals.

 

– Rather than take up too many pages, this will be the last; he has denigrated an American war hero and American war veterans and mocked the disabled, so how can you support a "so-called" man like this.

 

Finally, trump is not respected by other world leaders because they have first-hand experience of speaking with him, that he is not the "sharpest knife in the drawer" and the CEOs from America's top companies have labelled him "dumb" and "he doesn't know what he's talking about"! Surely their word has to mean something in today's world??

Extremely well balanced, intellectual and unbiased opinion otherwise known as complete emotive red man bad BS. Your post will certainly pass the NOT disinformation/misinformation test when the 1st Amendment is further eroded if Harris wins.  

[Hanaguma]

13 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

There are a bunch, but no need to educate a Canadian about this.

Nice dodge. But there aren't. Every state in the country has exceptions, generally for the health/life of the mother if nothing else. There are no total bans. 

[mogandave]

46 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

In 2016, then-presidential candidate Donald Trump suggested in an interview that there should be “some form of punishment” for women who have abortions if the procedure were to be banned. This statement was made during a town hall interview with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews. When pressed for clarification, Trump initially responded that women could face punishment, although he did not specify what kind.

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/31/us/politics/donald-trump-abortion.html

So you made it up. 

 

Another dishonest leftist 

[Hanaguma]

46 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

In 2016, then-presidential candidate Donald Trump suggested in an interview that there should be “some form of punishment” for women who have abortions if the procedure were to be banned. This statement was made during a town hall interview with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews. When pressed for clarification, Trump initially responded that women could face punishment, although he did not specify what kind.

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/31/us/politics/donald-trump-abortion.html

Yes, IF the procedure were banned.  That is generally how laws work. Did he actually advocate a ban? 

[bubblegum]

The racism and fascism Trump’s MAGA Republicans displayed at Madison Square Garden is usually expressed within their media bubble, where it passes for normal conversation. The backlash against it among people in the real world appears to have shocked the Trump campaign so much that the candidate is running away from his own closing argument.

[mogandave]

21 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

There are a bunch, but no need to educate a Canadian about this.

 You lied and now you lie again when you get called out for lying, 

 

Typical dishonest leftist 

[Jingthing]

18 minutes ago, baansgr said:

It's not really my call not being a US citizen and am always open to dialogue but can see from your post it would be pointless. Straight off the bat you call Trump and his supporters fascists adhering to some mad cult, that just isn't true, and in no way would I say you are a retarded liberal traitor as I respect everyone's opinion to make their views vocal unlike fascists..you know Hitler, Mussolini, Franco..all fascist Dictators closing down free speech with violence. MSM and sly news especially paint him and his followers as fascists but they are all controlled left wing media outlets. Anyway, the next few weeks will see the outcome, good luck to you and every US citizen and hope you get the result you desire

If you don't believe the maga movement is a racist fascist cult you just haven't been paying attention. So.yeah we have nothing further to discuss.

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

because we do not like be called garbage by democrats

 

  

 

Not to worry, Biden wasn't talking about foreigners.

[mogandave]

2 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

The racism and fascism Trump’s MAGA Republicans displayed at Madison Square Garden is usually expressed within their media bubble, where it passes for normal conversation. The backlash against it among people in the real world appears to have shocked the Trump campaign so much that the candidate is running away from his own closing argument.

Too funny

[Danderman123]

Just now, mogandave said:

 You lied and now you lie again when you get called out for lying, 

 

Typical dishonest leftist 

There are a bunch of red states with total abortion bans.

 

It just happens you are not up to speed on the situation in the US.

[transam]

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

So you made it up. 

 

Another dishonest leftist 

Dishonest, how come you have never said Trump is dishonest, when he actually is.........? 

[Danderman123]

5 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yes, IF the procedure were banned.  That is generally how laws work. Did he actually advocate a ban? 

In Trump’s Own Words: “There Has to Be Some Form of Punishment” For Women Who Have an Abortion – And For Their Doctors, Too

 

[dinsdale]

On 10/29/2024 at 12:54 PM, Mazungu said:

You must be Russian. We don't have Kangaroo courts in the US. Trump was charged and convicted through the US judicial system. He was convicted by a jury of his peers just like every other convicted felon. If you don't like that then you must hate law and order. 

Kangaroo courts of course originating in the US.

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

If you don't believe the maga movement is a racist fascist cult you just haven't been paying attention. So.yeah we have nothing further to discuss.

Okay, you’re right , I guess I’ll vote for another four years of open borders, law-fare, corruption and incompetence 

[mogandave]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

There are a bunch of red states with total abortion bans.

 

It just happens you are not up to speed on the situation in the US.

You made the claim, back it up, you can’t. because it’s a lie. 

 

Name five states

[EVENKEEL]

6 hours ago, Lacessit said:

If they can be.

 

There have been two attempts to burn ballot boxes. I am guessing it was not Democrats who were responsible.

Now you're the clairvoyant one, well done. 

[Hamus Yaigh]

To answer the op it does stagger the mind on why someone would want to vote for a president who has the following legacy:

 

1. Said Mexico would pay for the wall and they never paid anything.
2. He sides with Russia and North Korea over the CIA.
3. Said in 2015 he'll replace Obama care with a great new plan in 4 weeks. 9 Years later says he still only has a concept at the Trump/Harris debate.
4. Says children are being surgically operated on in sex changes without parental consent at public shools.
5. Says windmill noise causes cancer, and called the wind bullsh.t!
6. Chooses electrocution over sharks in a sinking ship?
7. Sells stuff, NFT collectable coins, made in China Trump Bibles but cannot mention a verse in the bible, diamond watches, golden basketball boots.
8. Talks about Arnold Palmer's penis size.
9. Speaks about immigrants eating pet dogs and cats but doesn't know if it's true as he read it, whilst being against fake news.
10. Says the election result will only have two results, he wins or they cheat.
11. His own daughter, his own previous VP and numerous member of his own previous administration will not support him today.

[dinsdale]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

In Trump’s Own Words: “There Has to Be Some Form of Punishment” For Women Who Have an Abortion – And For Their Doctors, Too

 

What Trump is saying is that it's up to the individual states. A decentalisation of power from Washington. He is not anti abortion though his stance is anti late term abortions.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Okay, you’re right , I guess I’ll vote for another four years of open borders, law-fare, corruption and incompetence 

........Which you didn't have 2016-20................? ..... 

[mogandave]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

........Which you didn't have 2016-20................? ..... 

Not from Trimp

[transam]

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

Not from Trimp

Yeeeh, riiiiiiiiiight...............😂

 

Oh, so the whole nation were going to church on Sunday's, then after,

skipping across open fields to find daises to pick and take home, what magical times they were under Trimp.......................😂

[dinsdale]

6 hours ago, Lacessit said:

If they can be.

 

There have been two attempts to burn ballot boxes. I am guessing it was not Democrats who were responsible.

Have you thought this through. Why would Republicans do this in a solid blue state that 100% will NOT turn red.  A couple of drop boxes will make absolutely no difference in any possible way. My thoughts are it's a false flag to get idiot Democratic Party voters to say "Look! See what those white supremacist, Hitler loving, garbage Republicans are doing.

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Yeeeh, riiiiiiiiiight...............😂

 

Oh, so the whole nation were going to church on Sunday's, then after,

skipping across open fields to find daises to pick and take home, what magical times they were under Trimp.......................😂

Great to see another worthy and intellectual comment added to the discussion. Cheers. Keep up the good work.

[transam]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Great to see another worthy and intellectual comment added to the discussion. Cheers. Keep up the good work.

Thanks, but there really is no need for the praise, though may I respectfully suggest, you try harder....😉

[HappyExpat57]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Gotta link? 

Won't bother, you know it's true and I stopped wasting time on cultists a while ago. Remember - (DILDO)?