DTV or retirement visa ?

[DrJack54]

2 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

If I was to get the soft power under medical reasons, I have the ability to prove, I need to get a medical procedure done by an ENT surgeon every 4–6 months, so it could work for me.

Indeed. There are a few "genuine" candidates for soft power options.

• Muay Thai courses
• Thai cooking courses
• Sports training
• Medical treatment
• Seminars
• Music festivals 

Agents are already offering packages to places such a as Savannakhet to obtain DTV.

Ultimately this visa will be heavily abused.

I'm surprised that "Chess" is not on the soft power options listed above. 

[RoninTech]

4 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

My issue, same as other long term expats is that once it gets abused, which it will, how swift and what sweeping changes will come into effect, changing the criteria in obtaining one.

 

Aren't Non-O Retirement visas/extensions also abused all the time by people without the 800K/65K who just pay agents to fake the money in a Thai bank requirement?  Has the Non-O retirement had sweeping changes due to those abuses?

 

As long as you meet the stated requirements and don't use any sketchy workarounds I don't see why the DTV would be picked on any differently than say the Non-O retirement.

 

P.S. What a week to be a Red! 😀

[Phillip9]

5 minutes ago, RoninTech said:

Aren't Non-O Retirement visas/extensions also abused all the time by people without the 800K/65K who just pay agents to fake the money in a Thai bank requirement?  Has the Non-O retirement had sweeping changes due to those abuses?

 

The difference with those abuses is that immigration is making a lot of money off of them, so they tolerate it.  

 

Immigration seems to make nothing off the DTV and that alone could lead them to hassle DTV holders. 

[Scouse123]

13 minutes ago, RoninTech said:

 

Aren't Non-O Retirement visas/extensions also abused all the time by people without the 800K/65K who just pay agents to fake the money in a Thai bank requirement?  Has the Non-O retirement had sweeping changes due to those abuses?

 

As long as you meet the stated requirements and don't use any sketchy workarounds I don't see why the DTV would be picked on any differently than say the Non-O retirement.

 

P.S. What a week to be a Red! 😀

 

I have to agree with @Phillip9, as you are aware, immigration is directly involved, even through agents, with the Non-0 process of extensions.

 

With the DTV being granted through the MFA, the immigration noses could well get put out of joint, as if enough people move to them, it would greatly have a bearing on one of their lucrative income streams.

 

Yes, Real Madrid sorted, and Man City slaughtered, it should have been 5-0, but we will take 2-0!

 

Even at this early stage now, it's Liverpool’s title to lose, I just hope they don't fall to pieces or get injury hit, plus the contracts of Salah and Co becoming a distraction.

[Scouse123]

3 hours ago, Phillip9 said:

 

So just change back to a retirement visa if that ever happens.  No big deal.  

 

 

That's my plan, applying in Cambodia next month.

 

My retirement doesn't expire while July.

 

I want to get it before any further changes come in to play (if it gets abused, already agents arranging trips for DTV visas), and I am informed once you have it, you can just hold on to it, without using it until later in the year.

[RoninTech]

On 12/3/2024 at 9:51 AM, Scouse123 said:

I am informed once you have it, you can just hold on to it, without using it until later in the year.

 

Makes sense.  As it is now you could wait  4 years and 364 days before entering on it then come in and get 180 days and a 180 day extension on top of that.  So if you time it right the DTV can be a 6 year visa.

 

I grew up with Shankly/Paisley and never thought I'd see this kind of progression again.  Long may it continue.  🙂

[RoninTech]

On 12/3/2024 at 9:37 AM, Phillip9 said:

 

The difference with those abuses is that immigration is making a lot of money off of them, so they tolerate it.  

 

Immigration seems to make nothing off the DTV and that alone could lead them to hassle DTV holders. 

Yeah, I guess the only way they could get in on the act is if people decide to extend the DTV in-country.  I imagine most DTV'ers will just bounce out and back rather than extending to minimize any interaction with immigration.