Biden / Harris vs Harris / Biden

 

“Another person involved in the vice president's campaign said: "We did what we could. I think the odds against us were insurmountable," referring to Biden's low approval ratings and his late exit after the disastrous June debate that raised questions about his mental fitness”.

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/08/kamala-harris-biden-advisers-blame-election

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

Harris, Biden camps blame each other for loss

Of course, there’s no one else to blame, they both failed. Biden for his failed policies and Harris for having absolutely nothing other than more of the same but worse. And include whatever muck joker that thought it was a a good idea to appoint and install Harris on top of the ticket. 

the view and another show blaming spanish speaking men for the loss, Pelosi Blaming Biden, nobody accepting responsibility thet they have gone so far left, to the extreme, that people had enough and don't agree. Whaa Whaa. 

Biden's woke agenda promoting CRT, DEI, "open borders/sanctuary cities, etc., etc., turned off many Americans.  Harris was quoted as saying she wouldn't do anything different sunk her chance of getting elected.  Lots of blame to go around.

 

3 minutes ago, novacova said:

Of course, there’s no one else to blame, they both failed. Biden for his failed policies and Harris for having absolutely nothing other than more of the same but worse. And include whatever muck joker that thought it was a a good idea to appoint and install Harris on top of the ticket. 

Woke millionaires & billionaires , Installation of a Harris was snuffed out!

4 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Biden's woke agenda promoting CRT, DEI, "open borders/sanctuary cities, etc., etc., turned off many Americans.  Harris was quoted as saying she wouldn't do anything different sunk her chance of getting elected.  Lots of blame to go around.

 

Bingo! Identity Politics front and center

and the American people rejected it!

9 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

the view and another show blaming spanish speaking men for the loss, Pelosi Blaming Biden, nobody accepting responsibility thet they have gone so far left, to the extreme, that people had enough and don't agree. Whaa Whaa. 

It was a election , torching  Identity Politics !

Blame Trump for having superior leadership and policies and a good work ethic. 

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

It was a election , torching  Identity Politics !

Yep, people had had enough.

12 minutes ago, riclag said:

Woke millionaires & billionaires , Installation of a Harris was snuffed out!

They were sick to death of sneering nasties like De Niro too whose jobs consist of dress up and pretend.

Knives Out!  This is rich.

Pelosi threw them both under the bus.

 

 

No need for finger pointing. The Biden/Harris admin was dismal as was Harris' completely negative, celebrity studded campaign. As for the above from Pelosi, Biden didn't "get out", he was pushed and he was pushed hard. It's the Pelosi's of the party who are truly to blame.

37 minutes ago, novacova said:

Blame Trump for having superior leadership and policies and a good work ethic. 

 

Let's put in a good word for Lara Trump as new co-chair of the RND. Did a fantastic job. Overcame Trump's previous resistance to mail-in and early balloting and used them to the RNC's advantage. And more.

 

Donald Trump needed to “win big.” So he needed to listen to his daughter-in-law, Lara Trump, according to the Wall Street Journal.

 

She took on the thankless job of outmaneuvering the dirty tricks of her opponents in her new role as co-chairman of the Republican National Committee. “We don’t have one day of voting, we don’t have paper ballots, we don’t have voter ID everywhere,” she said pointing out the reality of winning on a new playing field. “We have to play the hand we’re dealt.”

     --Lara Trump Plays the Winning Hand

Just now, BigStar said:

 

Let's put in a good word for Lara Trump as new co-chair of the RND. Did a fantastic job. Overcame Trump's previous resistance to mail-in and early balloting and used them to the RNC's advantage. And more.

 

Donald Trump needed to “win big.” So he needed to listen to his daughter-in-law, Lara Trump, according to the Wall Street Journal.

 

She took on the thankless job of outmaneuvering the dirty tricks of her opponents in her new role as co-chairman of the Republican National Committee. “We don’t have one day of voting, we don’t have paper ballots, we don’t have voter ID everywhere,” she said pointing out the reality of winning on a new playing field. “We have to play the hand we’re dealt.”

     --Lara Trump Plays the Winning Hand

Commentators and some on here said this could/would/will canabalise votes on the day. It obviously had no affect on what was clearly a decisive victory. IMO the day should be a public holiday with paper ballots, voter ID and mail in only for those needing it. 

The pointing finger of blame has reached GEORGE CLOONEY. OH NO!!! Some of our members will have lost the will to live now, if they hadn't already.

George Clooney taking step back from politics after being made a 'scapegoat' for Kamala Harris' loss

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

No point finger pointing so to speak. The Biden/Harris admin was dismal as was Harris' completely negative, celebrity studded campaign. As for the above from Pelosi, Biden didn't "get out." He was pushed and pushed in a big way. It's the Pelosi's of the party who are truly to blame.

Another blunder by the party of Knuckleheads

21 minutes ago, BigStar said:

The pointing finger of blame has reached GEORGE CLOONEY. OH NO!!! Some of our members will have lost the will to live now, if they hadn't already.

George Clooney taking step back from politics after being made a 'scapegoat' for Kamala Harris' loss

This was a turning point in Politics!

Biden hid in his basement so to speak during the 2020 election!

He also hid behind the q card  notes calling on pre arranged reporters !

And then his gaffs on the teleprompter & debate facile expressions and word salad incoherent nonsense .

 

Harris avoiding a unscripted  press conference was a total DNC propaganda machine and campaign blundering!

But they had no choice !She was so lost in her word salad explanations of what she wanted to achieve for “all Americans “.

Americans spoke loud and clear ,Trump and not the installed choice of the Woke mob democracy.

 

37 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

IMO the day should be a public holiday with paper ballots, voter ID and mail in only for those needing it. 

 

Where I come from elections are held on a Sunday by default.

The dogs are turning against one another.

That's what happens when narcissistic sore aristocrats lose.

Kindergarten.

 

 

6 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Where I come from elections are held on a Sunday by default.

Indeed but I can't see them moving it from the Tuesday. Bit like compulsory voting. That would be too much of an invasion of a person's rights. 

If they want to blame anyone, blame whoever covered up Biden's incapacity until after the primary races, when it was too late to put forward a decent candidate.

 

That's Pelosi, Harris, the MSM, the celebrities...  The whole lot.

 

Edit:  Except Fox.  They were the only ones honestly reporting Biden's decline in cognitive ability.

 

Towards the end, even Harris had buyer's remorse about her picking Walz.

 

Couldn't have known he'd never appeal to real men. Weak point throughout her campaign marketing.

 

 

These threads will get boring so quick now. There is no debate or arguments.

 

The other side has simple vanished. Weird.

 

Usually by now there would of been at least 4 posters reminding you about the convicted felon. 

Weird.

 

Just saw an interesting bit from Joe Rogan, explaining why an interview with Kamala Harris never happened. It was all about control. The Harris team wanted editorial control, wanted people in the room to wave off taboo subjects, wanted to control the time and the topics, etc.  He invited them at first when Harris was in Texas for an event, got the silent treatment. Then, after Trump appeared, the Harris people approached Rogan with their requests.  So of course Joe told them to beat it.

6 hours ago, Spermwhale Whalen said:

They were sick to death of sneering nasties like De Niro too whose jobs consist of dress up and pretend.

I always thought that was hilarious. DeNiro trying to talk tough about Trump, playing the rough man. In reality he is just another coddled celebrity who reads the words that others put in front of him. And its a pity, because he is a generational talent as an actor. But that doesnt give him any cred as a political commentator whatsoever. 

3 hours ago, blaze master said:

These threads will get boring so quick now. There is no debate or arguments.

 

The other side has simple vanished. Weird.

 

Usually by now there would of been at least 4 posters reminding you about the convicted felon. 

Weird.

 

 

Just wait till all the convictions are overturned on appeal. 🤣

Light interlude time:

 

 

I think the most moronic defence of Kamala's performance is "she only had three months to introduce herself to the American public." 

 

She was VP for three and a half years, add six months for VP nominee and elect. If you can't "introduce" yourself over the course of those four years there's something badly wrong. 

 

In this case, the "badly wrong" was her personality. She was universally disliked with terrible approval ratings. Biden saw Pelosi coming a mile off and threw her, along with Obama et al under the bus. 

 

And if you ever want proof of how much Pelosi disliked her - they are both products of the Democrat California powerhouse. No senior politician knows Kamala better than Pelosi. The admission that a primary was anticipated is a direct attack on Harris. 

 

There is no way that Pelosi would have prevented the election of a Californian Democrat to the White House. She wanted the primary because she knew that Harris was unelectable. 

And here's the new problem for Pelosi - the Californian cash cow is going to be under sustained attack over the next four years. I predict, and I'm not joking, that to be associated with the Democrat machine will be toxic by the mid terms. 

 

The Blue Dog and Dirt Road Democrats need to get rid of the Marxist cancer or they will lose time and time again.