Popular Post Social Media Posted November 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 17, 2024 In his forthcoming memoir *Citizen,* former President Bill Clinton addresses his past connections to Jeffrey Epstein, adamantly denying allegations of visiting Epstein's private Caribbean island while acknowledging travel on the financier’s private plane in 2002 and 2003. Clinton claims his use of Epstein's plane—infamously dubbed the “Lolita Express”—was tied to his work with the Clinton Global Initiative. “The bottom line is, even though it allowed me to visit the work of my foundation, traveling on Epstein’s plane was not worth the years of questioning afterward,” Clinton writes in the memoir, according to excerpts reported by *The US Sun*. He admits to finding Epstein “odd” but insists he had no knowledge of the crimes later associated with the disgraced financier. “He hurt a lot of people, but I knew nothing about it, and by the time he was first arrested in 2005, I had stopped contact with him. I’ve never visited his island,” Clinton states. Epstein’s private island, Little Saint James, has been at the center of allegations of underage sex trafficking. Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein’s accusers, alleged in 2020 that Clinton was a guest on the island, though she did not accuse him of any wrongdoing. Clinton denies these claims and expresses regret for having ever met Epstein. “I wish I had never met him,” he writes. The memoir also reveals that Clinton met Epstein privately on only two occasions—once at Epstein’s Upper East Side townhouse and another time at the Clinton Global Initiative offices in Harlem. These interactions, according to Clinton, were brief. In 2019, a Clinton spokesperson confirmed the former president flew on Epstein’s plane four times between 2002 and 2003, traveling to Europe, Asia, and Africa. One such trip included a stop in Africa for a humanitarian mission, during which Clinton was photographed receiving a backrub from Chauntae Davies, a flight attendant and Epstein accuser. Davies later clarified that the massage occurred during a layover and described it as consensual and nonsexual. Beyond the Epstein controversy, Clinton uses *Citizen* to reflect on his 2018 NBC interview with Craig Melvin, where he was questioned about his affair with Monica Lewinsky in light of the MeToo movement. Clinton recalls being “caught off guard” and frustrated during the interview, particularly when pressed about whether he had personally apologized to Lewinsky. “I said, ‘No, I felt terrible then,’” Clinton writes, paraphrasing his response to Melvin. The interviewer followed up, asking, “‘Did you ever apologize to her?’” Clinton responded that he had apologized publicly multiple times, but Melvin challenged him, stating others claimed no direct apology had been made. Clinton explains in the book that he publicly apologized in 1999 alongside faith leaders at the White House, naming Lewinsky, her family, his own family, and the American public as the parties he wronged. “I meant it then, and I mean it today,” he concludes. The memoir presents Clinton’s efforts to clarify lingering questions about his controversial associations and past actions, offering insights into both the Epstein connection and the fallout from his presidency’s most notorious scandal. Based on a report by NYP 2024-11-18 3
Popular Post NORDO Posted November 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 17, 2024 Clinton's. (plural). Wrote the modern day book on deception. I question if they can really rationalize the truth from their lies. It is a very interesting read when you get one of the unauthorized biographies. I often wondered how long it takes for them to forget about the past. 1 2
neeray Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 Just now, NORDO said: Clinton's. (plural). Wrote the modern day book on deception. I question if they can really rationalize the truth from their lies. It is a very interesting read when you get one of the unauthorized biographies. I often wondered how long it takes for them to forget about the past. I would suspect that Bill Clinton thinks about this particular transgression every day of his life, with great regret. 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted November 18, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 18, 2024 Yeah OK Bill. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". Like most Democrats, he is a known liar. 3 1 2
Hummin Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 Democrats and Republicans same same, but it is hard to admit for you, 1
BritManToo Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 5 hours ago, Social Media said: In 2019, a Clinton spokesperson confirmed the former president flew on Epstein’s plane four times between 2002 and 2003, traveling to Europe, Asia, and Africa. One such trip included a stop in Africa for a humanitarian mission, during which Clinton was photographed receiving a backrub from Chauntae Davies, a flight attendant and Epstein accuser. Davies later clarified that the massage occurred during a layover and described it as consensual and nonsexual. Trying to think of any occasion a random woman rubbed any part of me without sex on the menu .............. Nope, that never happens IMHO. If they aren't up for it, they don't touch you. 1
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted November 18, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 18, 2024 Can we assume that his denial is along the lines of "I did not have sex with that woman"? 2 1 1
illisdean Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 Hang on, I do believe I recall Trump stating he would [declassify and release] the Epstein files when asked if he would. Could get interesting and kill "the joy" for many. including cigar insertion king, Billy boy Clinton. 1
ModdaPunk Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 Bill didn't do it. Too busy getting blown in the oval office. The Clintons... A dynasty of psychopaths. 1
jippytum Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 Clinton is a proven liar regarding his sexual exploits. Trying to whitewash his murky past with a new book. 2
spidermike007 Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 Many men in the public have made the same claim, including Donald Trump, and I don't believe for a nanosecond that he didn't visit that island. We certainly know that he visited the mansion on many occasions, and then he was good friends with Epstein.
OneMoreFarang Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 Was it illegal to do anything with Epstein, go on a trip with him, or visit any places with him? As far as I know it wasn't illegal. So, what is the problem if anybody did this? I guess sometime soon everybody who ever talked to Trump will be disgraced, because after all, that guy was/is a convicted criminal and he was convicted (without evidence) that he molested that woman in the department store, and he paid money to silence someone who said she had sex with him. If someone helps a criminal to convict crimes, then prosecute that person. Otherwise, leave him/her alone. 2
OneMoreFarang Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 4 hours ago, JonnyF said: Yeah OK Bill. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". Like most Democrats, he is a known liar. Good that there are no liars in the GOP... 2
thaipo7 Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said: Was it illegal to do anything with Epstein, go on a trip with him, or visit any places with him? As far as I know it wasn't illegal. So, what is the problem if anybody did this? I guess sometime soon everybody who ever talked to Trump will be disgraced, because after all, that guy was/is a convicted criminal and he was convicted (without evidence) that he molested that woman in the department store, and he paid money to silence someone who said she had sex with him. If someone helps a criminal to convict crimes, then prosecute that person. Otherwise, leave him/her alone. You Leftist keep missing the point on purpose. The point is these were underaged girls. This is the illegal part. Just because Leftist morals are low does not make it legal.
thaipo7 Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 3 hours ago, illisdean said: Hang on, I do believe I recall Trump stating he would [declassify and release] the Epstein files when asked if he would. Could get interesting and kill "the joy" for many. including cigar insertion king, Billy boy Clinton. I hope he does. Bill Gates will be on the list too.
transam Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 1 minute ago, thaipo7 said: I hope he does. Bill Gates will be on the list too. You got a link for that..........😊
OneMoreFarang Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 41 minutes ago, thaipo7 said: You Leftist keep missing the point on purpose. The point is these were underaged girls. This is the illegal part. Just because Leftist morals are low does not make it legal. Oh, I am a leftist because YOU don't understand me. Interesting. Is there evidence that Clinton had sex with "underage" girls on that island? If not, what's the problem? I see lots of underage girls and even small children on the beaches in any country. Does this mean I should avoid beaches? The rest is just your fantasy. 1
candide Posted November 18, 2024 Posted November 18, 2024 3 hours ago, illisdean said: Hang on, I do believe I recall Trump stating he would [declassify and release] the Epstein files when asked if he would. Could get interesting and kill "the joy" for many. including cigar insertion king, Billy boy Clinton. Or he won't do it for obvious reasons! 😀
Popular Post DeaconJohn Posted November 18, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 18, 2024 10 hours ago, JonnyF said: Yeah OK Bill. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". Like most Democrats, he is a known liar. A pathological liar. There, I fixed it for you. 1 3 5
john donson Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 sure... bill gates and bill clinton... they use pedo air because they did not have their own jet ...right same as tourists come to the temples here... temple of lust 1
lordgrinz Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 21 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Can we assume that his denial is along the lines of "I did not have sex with that woman"? I believe the exact comment he made was "I did not have sexual intercourse with that woman", technically ....correct....LOL
thaibeachlovers Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 Just now, lordgrinz said: I believe the exact comment he made was "I did not have sexual intercourse with that woman", technically ....correct....LOL The back story is that apparently he was given a list of what constituted sexual activities and they left off smoking ( cigars ), so when he denied it he was being technically correct. Of course the public were not having that weasel excuse. The other thing of note was that the GOP did not make up 95 or so BS indictments to prosecute him over. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 18 hours ago, thaipo7 said: You Leftist keep missing the point on purpose. The point is these were underaged girls. This is the illegal part. Just because Leftist morals are low does not make it legal. Were they not over 16? If so, that makes them legal in most civilised countries. It's so quaint that Americans actually believe that their girls haven't been going at it like rabbits long before 18.
thaibeachlovers Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 19 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Good that there are no liars in the GOP... Good grief. When talking about liars there is no point looking at politicians for an example of anyone that doesn't lie. They probably keep a power saw in the bathroom to trim their noses every day. 1
herfiehandbag Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 21 hours ago, illisdean said: Hang on, I do believe I recall Trump stating he would [declassify and release] the Epstein files when asked if he would. Could get interesting and kill "the joy" for many. including cigar insertion king, Billy boy Clinton. There again, he may not be so keen, now that photographs and accounts of his meeting Epstein are circulating. He (Trump) knew Epstein and his "proclivities" well enough to remark " he likes them very young".
thaibeachlovers Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 20 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Many men in the public have made the same claim, including Donald Trump, and I don't believe for a nanosecond that he didn't visit that island. We certainly know that he visited the mansion on many occasions, and then he was good friends with Epstein. SO WHAT???????? None of that is illegal. Isn't accusing someone of a crime without proof slander? 1
Hamus Yaigh Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 On 11/18/2024 at 8:20 AM, JonnyF said: Like most Democrats, he is a known liar. Delusional muppets comes to mind.
BritManToo Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 7 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: He (Trump) knew Epstein and his "proclivities" well enough to remark " he likes them very young". I wouldn't call 16 and up 'very young'.
JimTripper Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 On 11/18/2024 at 8:20 AM, JonnyF said: Yeah OK Bill. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". Like most Democrats, he is a known liar. Did Clinton get a BJ?
illisdean Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said: There again, he may not be so keen, now that photographs and accounts of his meeting Epstein are circulating. He (Trump) knew Epstein and his "proclivities" well enough to remark " he likes them very young". And thats exactly why he threw (banned) Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago for hitting on the teenage daughter of another member, and [“Trump allegedly banned Epstein from his Maralago Club in West Palm Beach because Epstein sexually assaulted a girl at the club..."]. If there was the slightest bit of evidence showing Trump visited Epstein Island or there was compromising video or photos of Trump engaged in anything illegal or immoral involving Epstein it would have been leaked and shared frantically 24/7. 1
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