Social Media Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, key figures in President-elect Donald Trump’s initiative to downsize the federal government, have detailed an ambitious plan to slash regulations and reduce the federal workforce. In an op-ed for *The Wall Street Journal*, the two leaders outlined their vision for a leaner government, emphasizing efficiency, cost-savings, and a streamlined regulatory approach. Labeling their initiative the “Department of Government Efficiency,” Musk and Ramaswamy will serve as outside advisors to the Trump administration. They plan to collaborate closely with the White House Office of Management and Budget and the Trump transition team to assemble a team of "small-government crusaders." These experts will be tasked with executing three core reforms: reducing regulations, cutting administrative overhead, and achieving significant cost savings. The co-authors highlighted the importance of targeting rules that overstep the authority Congress has granted federal agencies. Using a combination of legal expertise and advanced technology, the team aims to identify such regulations, presenting a comprehensive list to Trump. “By executive action, [Trump] can immediately pause the enforcement of those regulations and initiate the process for review and rescission,” Musk and Ramaswamy wrote. They argue that eliminating unnecessary regulations would naturally lead to a corresponding reduction in federal employees. “A big reduction in regulations provides sound industrial logic for mass head-count reductions across the federal bureaucracy,” they explained. The initiative will determine the minimum number of employees each agency needs to perform its constitutional and legal duties. Musk and Ramaswamy emphasized that fewer regulations require fewer enforcers, and a narrower scope of agency authority would curb the creation of new regulations. Acknowledging the personal impact of these cuts, the authors pledged to treat affected employees with respect. “Employees whose jobs are cut deserve to be treated with respect,” they wrote, suggesting measures like voluntary severance packages and incentives for early retirement to ease the transition into the private sector. Ramaswamy also floated a controversial idea for reducing staff, suggesting that employees could be randomly selected for termination based on their Social Security numbers. In a thought experiment, he proposed that workers with even-numbered Social Security digits could be dismissed on Trump’s first day in office, avoiding potential discrimination lawsuits. Despite anticipating fierce resistance from entrenched interests in Washington, Musk and Ramaswamy remain confident. “We are prepared for the onslaught from entrenched interests in Washington. We expect to prevail,” they declared. Their plan underscores a radical shift in the federal government’s structure and priorities, reflecting Trump’s campaign promise to streamline bureaucracy and reduce government overreach. Based on a report by Politico 2024-11-22 1 1
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted November 21, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Social Media said: Despite anticipating fierce resistance from entrenched interests in Washington, Musk and Ramaswamy remain confident. “We are prepared for the onslaught from entrenched interests in Washington. We expect to prevail,” they declared. I wish them well in their quest to reform a bloated bureaucracy. IMO many departments would work better with 70% less managerial staff. 1 1 1 1 4
Popular Post JonnyF Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 A smaller state, free speech, drill baby drill, deport immigrants. I'm so jealous of the US right now. You have Trump and Musk, we have Starmer and Lammy. Pray for us. 1 6 6
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 52 minutes ago, JonnyF said: A smaller state, free speech, drill baby drill, deport immigrants. I'm so jealous of the US right now. You have Trump and Musk, we have Starmer and Lammy. Pray for us. I recommend waiting to see the outcome. 1 2 4
JonnyF Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: I recommend waiting to see the outcome. Yes, like we did with the election result. 1 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I wish them well in their quest to reform a bloated bureaucracy. IMO many departments would work better with 70% less managerial staff. Please tell us your experience with US Government Departments, bloated or otherwise 2 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 Just now, JonnyF said: Yes, like we did with the election result. Yes, just like waiting for election results. The outcome is what matters. 1 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Yes, just like waiting for election results. The outcome is what matters. Seeing as you disagree with the vote, maybe you could call for a second try like you did with Brexit? 1 3
EVENKEEL Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 38 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Please tell us your experience with US Government Departments, bloated or otherwise I have personal experience with 20+ years with DOD. The agency has 8000+ employees. I bet the ground crew office workers are shaking right now. 1 1
Popular Post John Drake Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 Just close the Department of Education for a start. It's not only useless, it's actually counterproductive. 1 3 1 2 3
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 56 minutes ago, John Drake said: Just close the Department of Education for a start. It's not only useless, it's actually counterproductive. While you’re not a good advertisement for their efforts, we shouldn’t judge on one off cases 2 1 1 1 2
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: Seeing as you disagree with the vote, maybe you could call for a second try like you did with Brexit? Referenda and Federal elections mandated in the constitution are not the same thing. But I guess you didn’t know that. 1 2 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 21 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Referenda and Federal elections mandated in the constitution are not the same thing. But I guess you didn’t know that. Good to see you accept the result this time. There's hope for you yet. 1 2
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 8 hours ago, Social Media said: Ramaswamy also floated a controversial idea for reducing staff, suggesting that employees could be randomly selected for termination based on their Social Security numbers. In a thought experiment, he proposed that workers with even-numbered Social Security digits could be dismissed on Trump’s first day in office, avoiding potential discrimination lawsuits. Great idea, don't have to look at competence or if the government needs them. much quicker this way. What a muppet. 2 1 2 1
Popular Post Woke to Sounds Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 3 hours ago, JonnyF said: You have Trump and Musk, we have Starmer and Lammy. Pray for us. Well, it could be worse. You could have who the Canadians have. 2 3
Popular Post JonnyF Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 33 minutes ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said: Well, it could be worse. You could have who the Canadians have. Or Jacinda Ardern. 2 1
Popular Post mfd101 Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 The thing about government employees is that (mostly) they have 'permanency' which means they can't be sacked short of criminal activity. So you have to either BRIBE them to take early retirement or COMPENSATE them for the abolition of their position in the bureaucracy. All of which costs a LOT more money to achieve. Only a year or 3 later do your costs start to come down. And if there's a strong union movement and relevant affiliations (ie not in Usofa), then it's even harder & even more expensive ... 1 2 1
Popular Post James105 Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 12 minutes ago, mfd101 said: The thing about government employees is that (mostly) they have 'permanency' which means they can't be sacked short of criminal activity. So you have to either BRIBE them to take early retirement or COMPENSATE them for the abolition of their position in the bureaucracy. All of which costs a LOT more money to achieve. Only a year or 3 later do your costs start to come down. And if there's a strong union movement and relevant affiliations (ie not in Usofa), then it's even harder & even more expensive ... Or another good idea I have heard that they might implement is that they will require them to actually work 5 days a week in the office compared to the 1 in 5 they do now. This would spark many a resignation I would think. 2 1
wwest5829 Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said: Great idea, don't have to look at competence or if the government needs them. much quicker this way. What a muppet. Quite inline with incoming incompetence … 1 1
Popular Post mokwit Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: While you’re not a good advertisement for their efforts, we shouldn’t judge on one off cases Oh, I thought you said you didn't make personal attacks? 2 1 1
Purdey Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 Create more unemployment? Great. 🤨 Civilian unemployment rate
Srikcir Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: IMO many departments would work better with 70% less managerial staff. Have any data by department behind that allegation? Cite links? 1
Srikcir Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 1 hour ago, James105 said: work 5 days a week in the office compared to the 1 in 5 they do now Wouldn't 1 in 5 significantly reduce need for office space and operational costs for the government, ie., by 80%. Some agencies use "hotelling" that requires employees to book in advance existing federal office space/seating that minimizes need for more government office areas and support services - it's a cost reduction program. Employees are required to hotel at least one or more days a week or face dismissal.
Popular Post Srikcir Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 11 hours ago, Social Media said: “Employees whose jobs are cut deserve to be treated with respect,” Which seems to be countered by 11 hours ago, Social Media said: employees could be randomly selected for termination based on their Social Security numbers. In a thought experiment, he proposed that workers with even-numbered Social Security digits could be dismissed on Trump’s first day in office, avoiding potential discrimination lawsuits. "The Best Leaders Don’t Fire Employees The Way Elon Musk Did," https://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceweinstein/2022/11/21/ How did thousands of Twitter employees learn that they were being let go? Some were notified by email. Others found themselves unable to log into the company’s systems. 1 1 2
Popular Post thaipo7 Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: I recommend waiting to see the outcome. Wait to see the outcome? We already know it is a win for the American freedoms and taxpayer. 1 5 1
Popular Post Callmeishmael Posted November 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2024 Cutting government oversight departments always save money in the long run... Just ask the British how well that worked out when Margaret Thatcher deregulated parts of the Agriculture and Health Ministries, leading to the outbreak of Mad Cow Disease. 1 1 1
RichardColeman Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Yes, just like waiting for election results. The outcome is what matters. Can but hope that Trump changes the law to in person on the day voting with ID 1 1
WDSmart Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 These are just the beginning signs of what will be destructive and catastrophic four years. 1 1
candide Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 12 hours ago, Social Media said: Ramaswamy also floated a controversial idea for reducing staff, suggesting that employees could be randomly selected for termination based on their Social Security numbers. In a thought experiment, he proposed that workers with even-numbered Social Security digits could be dismissed on Trump’s first day in office, avoiding potential discrimination lawsuits. Why not the musical chairs method? What a bunch of clowns... 1
Srikcir Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 SpaceX actively seeks billions in defense contracts. $5.32 billion went to the Defense Department to pay for SpaceX rocket launches. Time to cut. 1
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