On 3/24/2025 at 7:32 PM, rabang said:

Why would any sane person wish for a war? It does not mean Russia wouldn't be eventually beaten but only after a lot of destruction and misery. The problem is Russia has a leader who sees war essential for his own survival.

but but but there is ZERO to suggest he wants war against any western nation.

 

You should stop believing western propaganda.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

As compared to Ukraine which doesn't have a snowball in hell's chance of surviving without stupid western country leaders throwing money at it which is shot in the sky and exploded at the ground in Ukraine and Russia.

Congratulations on western numptie leaders for ruining their economies supporting a farce.

Western economies are doing just fine at least compared to Russia which is crying for sanctions that it claims are not hurting it, what an irony, ehh? I get you are being paid by trolling nonsense so I just leave it here answering, as it is a waste of time.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

but but but there is ZERO to suggest he wants war against any western nation.

 

You should stop believing western propaganda.

I just need to watch some Russian propaganda.

People have been predicting the economic collapse of Russia since 1917. Still waiting. 

Here is a list of Western companies still doing business with Russia. 

 

https://leave-russia.org/staying-companies?flt[147][eq][]=9057

 

I don't know why the Western governments allow this to happen.

10 hours ago, Purdey said:

People have been predicting the economic collapse of Russia since 1917. Still waiting. 

It has happened at least once, not to mention all other disasters and revolutions during the last century.

8 hours ago, TedG said:

I don't know why the Western governments allow this to happen.

Western civilization relies on freedom. Freedom of movement, freedom of expression of option and also freedom of doing business.

Telling to private companies what to do is attribute of dictatorship regtime.

 

Russian economy meltdown as fuel prices 'skyrocketing' with 14% rise - 'Worst in 13 years'

express.co.uk

4 hours ago

Trending

Ukraine drones target and destroy Russian oil refineries

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2032460/russian-economy-meltdown-fuel-prices/amphttps://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2032460/russian-economy-meltdown-fuel-prices/amp

Russia's economy is facing a severe crisis, former Ukrainian banking chief Kyrylo Shevchenko has said, pointing to fuel prices which have soared by 14.6% for gasoline and 11.4% for diesel since January. Mr Shevchenko, the former chief of the National Bank of Ukraine, attributed this surge - the sharpest in 13 years - to a combination of higher excise taxes, strict export bans, surging inflation, and Ukrainian drone strikes targeting key oil refineries, which he said has “sent costs skyrocketing”.

17 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

but but but there is ZERO to suggest he wants war against any western nation.

 

You should stop believing western propaganda.

Exactly. 

 

Lets look at Vlads strategic map so to speak.

 

He has no tanks, no air force, no air defenses worth a heck.

He has no consumer industry, no export industry and he is sanctioned.

He has the Finns, with a modern Airforce sitting 150 miles from St. Pete. Finns hate Russians. To call someone a Russian in Finland is an insult. They would itch for Karelia back.

He has the Poles ready to charge down the Sulwaki Gap and this time its them with the weapons on their way to Moscow. Poles hate Russians, really hate Russians.

Hes doing Trench warfare in the Ukraine and trying to go through the Carpathians is historically impossible

He lost Syria and has Turkey on his South

He cant count on Iran as they quake in fear

He cant count on Hezbollah or Hamas

he has China on the Amur

 

If Europe stops buying his gas, where is he getting the money? Nobody wants his crappy weapons.

 

Oh yeah he has nukes. Probably the only thing that keeps China off of him.

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Exactly. 

 

Lets look at Vlads strategic map so to speak.

 

He has no tanks, no air force, no air defenses worth a heck.

He has no consumer industry, no export industry and he is sanctioned.

He has the Finns, with a modern Airforce sitting 150 miles from St. Pete. Finns hate Russians. To call someone a Russian in Finland is an insult. They would itch for Karelia back.

He has the Poles ready to charge down the Sulwaki Gap and this time its them with the weapons on their way to Moscow. Poles hate Russians, really hate Russians.

Hes doing Trench warfare in the Ukraine and trying to go through the Carpathians is historically impossible

He lost Syria and has Turkey on his South

He cant count on Iran as they quake in fear

He cant count on Hezbollah or Hamas

he has China on the Amur

 

If Europe stops buying his gas, where is he getting the money? Nobody wants his crappy weapons.

 

Oh yeah he has nukes. Probably the only thing that keeps China off of him.

Dont forget he has the USA just 52 miles away across the Bering Strait too.

17 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Dont forget he has the USA just 52 miles away across the Bering Strait too.

Nothing up there. Land operations are impossible,

 

But Sakhalin? China claims that. 

 

And who has got the most firepower around there? Hey Vlad, you know you are going to need the Wests help right?

18 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

but but but there is ZERO to suggest he wants war against any western nation.

 

You should stop believing western propaganda.

 

Notwithstanding Russian state propaganda says so almost everyday including where and what weapons?

 

Putin could for example try to test Nato's 5th article by some aggression against Baltic states if Russia can recover its military in a few years. This is of course is just speculation and I am not suggesting that will certainly happen. He might see the West as weak, which concerning especially Europe is at least partially true. No one can get inside the head of a Soviet era former KGB man who is now a dictator in his seventies.

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Exactly. 

Lets look at Vlads strategic map so to speak.

 

He has no tanks, no air force, no air defenses worth a heck.

He has no consumer industry, no export industry and he is sanctioned.

He has the Finns, with a modern Airforce sitting 150 miles from St. Pete. Finns hate Russians. To call someone a Russian in Finland is an insult. They would itch for Karelia back.

He has the Poles ready to charge down the Sulwaki Gap and this time its them with the weapons on their way to Moscow. Poles hate Russians, really hate Russians.

Hes doing Trench warfare in the Ukraine and trying to go through the Carpathians is historically impossible

He lost Syria and has Turkey on his South

He cant count on Iran as they quake in fear

He cant count on Hezbollah or Hamas

he has China on the Amur

 

If Europe stops buying his gas, where is he getting the money? Nobody wants his crappy weapons.

 

Oh yeah he has nukes. Probably the only thing that keeps China off of him.

 

So, he's not winning?

 

14 hours ago, VBer said:

Western civilization relies on freedom. Freedom of movement, freedom of expression of option and also freedom of doing business.

Telling to private companies what to do is attribute of dictatorship regtime.

Because the West is basically at war with Russia. 

10 hours ago, rabas said:

 

Notwithstanding Russian state propaganda says so almost everyday including where and what weapons?

 

 

Don't your lot keep telling us that everything from Russia is a lie? So why do you believe that?

 

I don't believe Russian propaganda any more than I believe western propaganda.

9 hours ago, rabang said:

Putin could for example try to test Nato's 5th article by some aggression against Baltic states if Russia can recover its military in a few years. This is of course is just speculation and I am not suggesting that will certainly happen. He might see the West as weak, which concerning especially Europe is at least partially true. No one can get inside the head of a Soviet era former KGB man who is now a dictator in his seventies.

By the time Russia re arms, Putin will likely be retired. Not even Russia can maintain war level production indefinitely.

That doesn't mean that the next leader will be Gorbachev mark 2.

12 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Nothing up there. Land operations are impossible,

 

But Sakhalin? China claims that. 

 

And who has got the most firepower around there? Hey Vlad, you know you are going to need the Wests help right?

Japan claims Sakhalin, it was Japanese territory up until 1945 following invasion by the USSR towards the end of WWII

2 hours ago, NumbNut said:

Japan claims Sakhalin, it was Japanese territory up until 1945 following invasion by the USSR towards the end of WWII

Do ya'll just argue for the sake of arguing?

 

Japan gave up Sakhalin by treaty.

 

China hasnt

On 3/27/2025 at 5:57 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

By the time Russia re arms, Putin will likely be retired. Not even Russia can maintain war level production indefinitely.

That doesn't mean that the next leader will be Gorbachev mark 2.

Putin can't just retire. He will continue until his death.

Guess which country is not in the top ten? 🤣

 

https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/worlds-largest-economies-1694256013-1

 

10 minutes ago, candide said:

Guess which country is not in the top ten? 🤣

 

https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/worlds-largest-economies-1694256013-1

 

 

Russia should be embarrassed that Canada and Brazil have a higher GDP. 

 

I guess as non-economists, some people don’t realise that GDP is a very poor metric to indicate the health of a country’s economy. For example, if China were to privatise its healthcare, public utilities such as water, electricity etc, its GDP could well exceed the US’s In nominal terms. As it is, it’s already higher in PPP terms.

 

Many, real, experts are saying that there is a 50:50 chance that the US might undergo a recession in the coming year. As it is, many Americans are struggling to even buy groceries, having to opt for BNPL schemes. A fat lot of good a high GDP is doing for them. Meanwhile in Thailand, I see red plated cars on the road everyday, restaurants are full of patrons and most Thais that I know are having a nice living. Thailand’s GDP isn’t in the top 10 either…

1 minute ago, Gweiloman said:

Thailand’s GDP isn’t in the top 10 either…

Huh? You really have no clue. Monaco's gdp isn't in the top 10 either, still they have lots of money.

 

The topic is Russia's economy.

8 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Huh? You really have no clue. Monaco's gdp isn't in the top 10 either, still they have lots of money.

 

The topic is Russia's economy.

The topic is Russia’s economy…

Exactly. Some posters try to imply that Russia’s economy is doomed because its GDP is not in the top 10. Seems like you are clueless about insinuations.

1 hour ago, Gweiloman said:

The topic is Russia’s economy…

Exactly. Some posters try to imply that Russia’s economy is doomed because its GDP is not in the top 10. Seems like you are clueless about insinuations.

Topic started November last year, yet.......................................

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Topic started November last year, yet.......................................

So?

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

So?

So, are you trying to get your post numbers up?

 

The point I was making is obvious to most.

50 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

So, are you trying to get your post numbers up?

 

The point I was making is obvious to most.

I was hoping you would explain so you might see yourself how nonsensical your argument?/post was. Unless you think that when posters see a doomed economy it will implode within a few months.

 

Give it some time.