Deterioration of Dining Quality and Experience

[Liverpool Lou]

On 12/27/2024 at 11:48 AM, AndreasHG said:

Those cakes stay fresh on the shelves for days in a row, worryingly without showing any sign of decay.

What makes you think that those Starbucks items "are there for days in a row" and that the shelves are not frequently restocked with fresh items?   Why should goods in a refrigerated display for a few hours show any "signs of decay"?

[Nick Carter icp]

28 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Killing hungry babies in breadlines was admitted by Israeli soldiers.

 

  I did a web search for that and no results came up

Your claim is untrue .

Feel free to provide a link , but your claims are lies 

Israel did NOT kill hangry babies in dread lines 

Anti Israeli lies   

[Hawaiian]

On 12/27/2024 at 2:16 PM, cdemundo said:

My daughter lectures me on avoiding preservatives, meh.

They might be harmful to health, apparently might not be harmful as well.

I was in Laos and bought a loaf of bread in the evening.

Next day I went to make a PBJ and every inch of that loaf's surface was spotted with mold.

So I see why preservatives are used.

Have you considered that the bread was old when you bought it?

[SiSePuede419]

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  I did a web search for that and no results came up

Your claim is untrue .

Feel free to provide a link , but your claims are lies 

Israel did NOT kill hangry babies in dread lines 

Anti Israeli lies   

You're not very good with a search engine.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/1/flour-massacre-how-gaza-food-killings-unfolded-and-israels-story-changed

Please provide proof Al Jazeera’s Bernard Smith works for Hamas.

He's a reporter based out of Paris 

Until you provide a link, there's only your False Witness. 😳

[Needs citations]

[Hawaiian]

On 12/27/2024 at 4:41 PM, kingstonkid said:

 

I lived in Pakistan, where everything is fresh without preservatives.  Imagine butcher selling meet on sid or road.  It was explained to me by my driver that that is why there is so  much spice in Pakistani meatsd when cooked.

This is why the spice trade flourished. Europeans needed them for their rancid meats.  Of course today there is refrigeration.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, SiSePuede419 said:

You're not very good with a search engine.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/1/flour-massacre-how-gaza-food-killings-unfolded-and-israels-story-changed

 

   That doesnt back up your claim . 

Your claims were false

Your story from Al J is about Hamas attacking a food aid convey and trying to steal the food and the IDF had a shootout with Hamas .

   The IDF were trying to stop Hamas from stealing the food  .

 

[SiSePuede419]

40 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

That doesnt back up your claim . 

Your claims were false

Your story from Al J is about Hamas attacking a food aid convey and trying to steal the food and the IDF had a shootout with Hamas .

   The IDF were trying to stop Hamas from stealing the food  .

There you have it folks.

Baby Killers who claim Hamas has killed over 11,000 kids including 710 infants just to make Israel look bad.

Nothing to do with the bombs Israel dropped on them.

IDF: There's a Hamas militant going into that house but it's full of people including children.  Should we wait until he comes outside and have a sniper pick him off?

IDF Commander: Yes, because we are peaceful people who love kids and would never kill innocent civilians.

IDF: ?!?!?

IDF Commander: Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha.  Had you guys for a minute?  Drop a <deleted> bomb on that house and kill them all.  They're <deleted> vermin.

 

Go <deleted> yourself Baby Killers. 😭

 

As of August 31, 2024, the Gaza Health Ministry reported that out of 34,344 total deaths due to bombardments, 11,355 were minors, including 710 infants under the age of one. 

[AndreasHG]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What makes you think that those Starbucks items "are there for days in a row" and that the shelves are not frequently restocked with fresh items?   Why should goods in a refrigerated display for a few hours show any "signs of decay"?

 

It's not that I just "think": I know. I trust my senses when it comes to judging the quality of what I eat. As a child I was used to eating homemade cakes (not unusual in Europe), and I enjoy cooking and baking cakes myself, even if only for my own personal pleasure, using the best ingredients I can find (e.g. real butter, milk, sugar, eggs, flour, fruits, etc.).

 

Starbucks locations receive frozen baked goods from Starbucks suppliers. They don't bake anything: they just defrost their bakery and sell it as "fresh" sometimes even after two days from the moment of defrosting (small pieces), sometimes after several days (cakes sold in slices)..

 

Do some research on the internet. With thousands of current and former employees, there are no secrets to how Starbucks works. It is not by chance that Starbucks' business model is consistently facing headwinds since a while (Microsoft PowerPoint - Q4 and Full FY24 Earnings at a Glance_Ready for Review.pptx).

 

 

[Celsius]

On 12/27/2024 at 12:28 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

How many people are willing to pay for quality?

And how many people actually know good quality?

 

A good example is that American green logo coffeeshop. Do people go there because of the good quality? Or more likely so that they can make a selfie and run around with a mug with the logo on it?

 

 

That green coffee shop is million times better than a coffee shop that carries the same name as the world's largest marketplace.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, SiSePuede419 said:

There you have it folks.

Baby Killers who claim Hamas has killed over 11,000 kids including 710 infants just to make Israel look bad.

Nothing to do with the bombs Israel dropped on them.

IDF: There's a Hamas militant going into that house but it's full of people including children.  Should we wait until he comes outside and have a sniper pick him off?

IDF Commander: Yes, because we are peaceful people who love kids and would never kill innocent civilians.

IDF: ?!?!?

IDF Commander: Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha.  Had you guys for a minute?  Drop a <deleted> bomb on that house and kill them all.  They're <deleted> vermin.

 

Go <deleted> yourself Baby Killers. 😭

 

As of August 31, 2024, the Gaza Health Ministry reported that out of 34,344 total deaths due to bombardments, 11,355 were minors, including 710 infants under the age of one. 

 

   Dude ,you are losing the plot, really need to get back on topic 

[Hawaiian]

On 12/29/2024 at 6:50 PM, Patong2021 said:

Ok, but my comments are on what has occurred over the period of the last 12 months. Dusit had excellent standards. Accor, Marriott too My Dusit sheets had 2 small holes in them during a recent stay.  Something has happened at many places.

 

I used to eat egg mcmuffins 2-3X a year. It's convenient at 07:30 in the morning.  Last visit I noticed that they offer "oil spray" instead of butter on the muffins. It's obscene to spend 3500 baht for a basic steak dinner for 2 and to be served a chunk of gristle and fat. Where I could once count on some meat in my bacon, some  places have switched to the lower cost Thai cuts which are almost all fat. It is a collective reduction in quality, much as manufacturers have reduced portion sizes in containers, but kept the same price without telling consumers.

 

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Why didn't you ask for a discount because of the two small holes in your sheets?

[Hawaiian]

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Dude ,you are losing the plot, really need to get back on topic 

Some people just can't help themselves.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

 

That green coffee shop is million times better than a coffee shop that carries the same name as the world's largest marketplace.

 

In my experience espresso is only good if lots of good factors come together. Good coffee, good equipment, good settings, good maintenance, baristas who know and care what they are doing.

 

A good example is a luxury hotel where I used to drink great espresso. They buy the same coffee and have the same machine, the espresso was excellent, but now, with new employees who don't care much, the espresso is almost bad. And nobody really cares. Sad.

[Patong2021]

1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

Why didn't you ask for a discount because of the two small holes in your sheets?

I could not be bothered. It isn't the first hotel. I had this at Marriott when I was in Miami this year.  My theory is that the hotels use cheap sheets, no matter what they claim. The sheets are cleaned by laundry contractors. The sheets are folded by machines and the process pinches the sheets. 

[EVENKEEL]

21 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

I could not be bothered. It isn't the first hotel. I had this at Marriott when I was in Miami this year.  My theory is that the hotels use cheap sheets, no matter what they claim. The sheets are cleaned by laundry contractors. The sheets are folded by machines and the process pinches the sheets. 

There's a world of difference between a "Marriott" and a  Marriot affiliated hotel. I was there as well at one of the affiliated joints. 

[Hawaiian]

22 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

I could not be bothered. It isn't the first hotel. I had this at Marriott when I was in Miami this year.  My theory is that the hotels use cheap sheets, no matter what they claim. The sheets are cleaned by laundry contractors. The sheets are folded by machines and the process pinches the sheets. 

Some hotels have their own laundries. World famous Mauna Kea Beach Hotel on the Big Island of Hawaii is one of them.  The laundry not only serves the hotel but also  handles the laundry for Mauna Kea Resort Services, a hotel subsidiary that services the upscale homes surrounding the hotel.

[cdemundo]

On 1/1/2025 at 11:03 AM, Hawaiian said:

Have you considered that the bread was old when you bought it?

It was in a clear plastic bag, there was no sign of mold.

The mold spread, grew, proliferated overnight to cover the surface of the entire load.

I haven't seen that happen with bread that contains preservatives.

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, cdemundo said:

It was in a clear plastic bag, there was no sign of mold.

The mold spread, grew, proliferated overnight to cover the surface of the entire load.

I haven't seen that happen with bread that contains preservatives.

Interesting aside.  Ancient Egyptians used it as a natural form of penicillin.