Should I buy a secondhand Neta V?

[Lacessit]

4 minutes ago, novacova said:

Millions of them on the roads, haven’t heard of any issues with cvt’s. Though as with any a/t, problems are likely to occur if neglected. 

The Nissan CVT is acquiring an unsavory reputation for reliability.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The Nissan CVT is acquiring an unsavory reputation for reliability.

Mrs.T's CVT in the Suzuki is made by Nissan, but I read that the new model Celerio has an AMT, automatic manual transmission, which variant has been used in the old model in India for quite a while......

[Liverpool Lou]

22 minutes ago, 2long said:

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No, he suggested a very specific brand, and model, nothing "random", at all.

Please don't take my words so literally.

When using the term 'random' I meant not a brand that is a household name, such as Toyota, Honda, Ford or even Hyundai.

But part of me thinks that you were well aware of that.

Why shouldn't your comments be taken literally?   

 

"When using the term 'random' I meant not a brand that is a household name..."

That's not what "random" means!

[Lacessit]

51 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

You guys are anti EV.

 

That said, the Neta V warraties are for original owner, so yea, may want to give a 2nd hand Neta a pass.

 

449k ... gets you a new Wuling, or wait for new Neta to go on sale.

https://cms.wulingthai.com/assets/8054ec34-a930-4ad4-92a3-dda3f31d9886.pdf

I am not anti-EV. I have consistently acknowledged EV's have major advantages in some attributes.

 

The standard ICE warranty is 5 years and 100,000 km. The warranty holds even if the vehicle has half a dozen owners.

 

Which raises the question of why Neta will only honor a warranty with the original owner. What do they know that we don't?

 

Who apart from you on this thread has heard of Wuling, and what reputation has it established for after-sales service and reliability?

 

Religions always have a problem with heretics and agnostics. Ev's are no exception.

[Ben Zioner]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Come on Brit...       fess up... its for you really, no ???

 

There are concerns with this car regarding safety:

In December 2024, the Neta V received a zero-star safety rating from the ASEAN NCAP.

 

But... if the alternative is a motorcycle - its still a lot safer, if you're only driving around town and not going far on highways etc

 

There's not many 'relatively' new cars on the market for 300k baht - you'd be looking at a 2020 Suzuki Swift, 2020 Toyota Yaris, or Altis, or another pickup.

 

There is also the question of charging the Neta V - would you be able to use a Granni charger to meet your 'distance' needs ?

 

 

 

The colour must be some sort of a statement.

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

You guys are anti EV.

 

That said, the Neta V warraties are for original owner, so yea, may want to give a 2nd hand Neta a pass.

 

449k ... gets you a new Wuling, or wait for new Neta to go on sale.

https://cms.wulingthai.com/assets/8054ec34-a930-4ad4-92a3-dda3f31d9886.pdf

I am not anti-EV. I have consistently acknowledged EV's have major advantages in some attributes.

 

The standard ICE warranty is 5 years and 100,000 km. The warranty holds even if the vehicle has half a dozen owners.

 

Which raises the question of why Neta will only honor a warranty with the original owner. What do they know that we don't?

 

Who apart from you on this thread has heard of Wuling, and what reputation has it established for after-sales service and reliability?

 

Religions always have a problem with heretics and agnostics. Ev's are no exception.

 

If you are not 100% pro-EV 100% of the time, then you are Anti-EV...     this binary thinking ignores those with balanced options that are not on the extremes of the opinion spectrum - but get pigeon holed as Anti or Pro by the opposition as a form of gaslighting.

 

 

 

 

[KhunLA]

11 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I am not anti-EV. I have consistently acknowledged EV's have major advantages in some attributes.

 

The standard ICE warranty is 5 years and 100,000 km. The warranty holds even if the vehicle has half a dozen owners.

 

Which raises the question of why Neta will only honor a warranty with the original owner. What do they know that we don't?

 

Who apart from you on this thread has heard of Wuling, and what reputation has it established for after-sales service and reliability?

 

Religions always have a problem with heretics and agnostics. Ev's are no exception.

Wuling has an excellent reputation, and 2020 ...

 

 

Y'all need to expand your mind ... do realize, ICEV are on borrowed time.

[KhunLA]

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

If you are not 100% pro-EV 100% of the time, then you are Anti-EV...     this binary thinking ignores those with balanced options that are not on the extremes of the opinion spectrum - but get pigeon holed as Anti or Pro by the opposition as a form of gaslighting.

Not at all, and I've stated many times, 'not for everyone' ... BUT ... hard to beat for a knock around town car.  Low to no maintenance & operating cost.  If having Solar, then a no brainer.

 

I can't comprehend the closed minds & hatred of BEVs.  They really are and will be the future, one version or another.  Simply too practical.

 

Limited owners, but haven't heard anyone here regretting their EV purchase.  Plenty of ... 'would never buy another ICEV' thoughts.

 

What do we know that y'all don't ?

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Not at all, and I've stated many times, 'not for everyone' ... BUT ... hard to beat for a knock around town car.  Low to no maintenance & operating cost.  If having Solar, then a no brainer.

 

Other than the car itself !!...   But, yep,  operationally, its a good buy.

 

On the maintenance side of things....  The reason I didn't get a Tesla is due to the lack of dealership support. I'm not sure what happens if something goes wrong.. I read that they send engineers out to you, but there can be waiting lists etc.

 

Thus: With Neta - is there any dealership - how does one get the brake pads renewed etc ?

 

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I can't comprehend the closed minds & hatred of BEVs.  They really are and will be the future, one version or another.  Simply too practical.

 

Me too...  though I have an EV and like them... I would have bought the same car if it were an ICE because I liked the actual car. 

Some are very 'Anti-EV' and present really daft comments that highlight an irrational negative prejudice.

But, others are so gushingly 'Pro-EV' they attract detractors due to their presentation of unwavering bias.

 

 

[Lacessit]

12 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Wuling has an excellent reputation, and 2020 ...

 

 

Y'all need to expand your mind ... do realize, ICEV are on borrowed time.

My mind is expanded to the point where I understand with available lithium, EV's at best can only replace 30% of ICE's. 10 new mines will have to be in operation every year, for the next ten years, for complete replacement to be achieved.

 

You may be right about borrowed time. My estimate is 30 years.

 

Happy New Year.

[oxo1947]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

So I'm looking for a cheap but reliable car for my wife to drive around town.

Look at the Nissan's --they are in trouble-- as well as being quite a reliable cheaper end of the market line, you will get a finance deal from them---my friend (Udon Thani) got a zero %  7 years on 20% deposit---that should probably see you out---

[bokningar]

How much in is a new battery?

[Lacessit]

Just now, oxo1947 said:

Look at the Nissan's --they are in trouble-- as well as being quite a reliable cheaper end of the market line, you will get a finance deal from them---my friend (Udon Thani) got a zero %  7 years on 20% deposit---that should probably see you out---

Nissan had a great reputation for reliability and durability. It all went to sh!t when they switched over to Jatco CVT's, which have a dismal reputation.

 

By all means buy a Nissan if it has the older torque converter gearbox. Otherwise, steer clear.

[Lacessit]

3 minutes ago, bokningar said:

How much in is a new battery?

I understand it's about 50% of the new car value

[bokningar]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

5 minutes ago, bokningar said:

How much in is a new battery?

I understand it's about 50% of the new car value

So I would never buy that car.

[KhunLA]

24 minutes ago, bokningar said:

So I would never buy that car.

@BritManToo price insurance for any BEV you're considering, as the petrol savings may easily be offset by insurance premiums, especially if not racking up some kms.

 

We do ~20k kms a year, and that's 50k baht saved from petrol, IF, all local driving and using Solar.  If only driving 5-10k kms around town a year, 20k for insurance would offset any savings.  

 

Roojai is the cheapest we found, 13.4k vs 20+k for all other brokers.  2022 MG ZS EV write off value of 590k

[BritManToo]

11 hours ago, KhunLA said:

@BritManToo price insurance for any BEV you're considering, as the petrol savings may easily be offset by insurance premiums, especially if not racking up some kms.

 

We do ~20k kms a year, and that's 50k baht saved from petrol, IF, all local driving and using Solar.  If only driving 5-10k kms around town a year, 20k for insurance would offset any savings.  

 

Roojai is the cheapest we found, 13.4k vs 20+k for all other brokers.  2022 MG ZS EV write off value of 590k

I only buy gov min insurance, not sure what that costs on an EV.

[Lacessit]

11 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I only buy gov min insurance, not sure what that costs on an EV.

The least you should do is buy third party insurance, for damage to other vehicles. AFAIK government insurance only covers injury and death.

 

Let's say your NETA is parked next to a couple of Mercs or Beemers, and you have a battery fire. Unlike an ICE fire at 900 C, a battery fire is 2300 C.

 

Unlikely to happen, the risk is 50 times less than an ICE fire. However, if it does happen, you could be up for millions of baht for damage to other vehicles.

 

 

[Gweiloman]

17 hours ago, Lacessit said:

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There's a case in Australia where a Nissan Leaf battery failed. .

 

Comparing a Nissan Leaf with the current crop of Chinese EVs raises doubts about your knowledge about modern EVs.

[Gweiloman]

For running around town where range, speed and ride comfort are not major factors, a 2nd hand EV is a no brainer in my opinion. Minimal running costs, practically zero maintenance except for a weekly car wash. A year old car will still have a new car feel, unlike a 10 or 20 yr old Japanese car that some proposes. I would refuse the latter even if I was offered one for free.

[Digitalbanana]

17 hours ago, BritManToo said:

My misses has ZERO say in anything requiring my money.

Well good luck in that relationship pal.

[surat04]

My daughter has been driving around in a Neta V for 18 months now. I wasn't sure in the beginning if an EV was the right choice but she loves it and we have had no problems. My Wife prefers to borrow it for around town and leaves the Fortuner at home.

My daughter has no anxiety over charging and has taken it on trips to Phuket, Samui and Krabi.

Using a TOU meter we spend on average 350 baht per month for charging.

[connda]

You can buy a new Suzuki Celerio for another 50K.  They are excellent city cars. Highly reliable.
An off-brand second-hand EV?  May be "iffy" too.  I also wouldn't buy a second-hand car after a flood. Do you really know the car's history?  Just saying...

[mikebike]

21 hours ago, BritManToo said:

So I'm looking for a cheap but reliable car for my wife to drive around town.

Currently our Nissan BigM pickup is 27 years old and getting a bit iffy.

 

Seems I can buy a 1 year old Neta V for around 300kbht.

Currently looking at a 8 month old one priced at 280kbht, 20k on the clock, no accidents or flooding, but a cracked windscreen was replaced.

Not looking to spend much more than this, and it's 150k cash, plus 30 monthly payments of 5kbht, which suits me.

 

Google doesn't seem to have much about them in English, so I wondered what you guys think?

We have had a Neta V for 8 months now. No issues. Extremely happy 😊 Suspension is soft, but it's not a sports car... Charges from 16% to full overnight plugged into regular wall outlet. I've done over 320 Kms with 16% left. Nice interior and sound system. Great around town. Lots of mods available if you're into that 😉

[vinny41]

5 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The least you should do is buy third party insurance, for damage to other vehicles. AFAIK government insurance only covers injury and death.

 

Let's say your NETA is parked next to a couple of Mercs or Beemers, and you have a battery fire. Unlike an ICE fire at 900 C, a battery fire is 2300 C.

 

Unlikely to happen, the risk is 50 times less than an ICE fire. However, if it does happen, you could be up for millions of baht for damage to other vehicles.

 

 

Porsche Taycan owners in the Uk that have received an ARB6 recall notice letter are being advised 

"Additionally, until the inspection has been completed, we would advise not to charge the vehicle under cover and or to ensure the vehicle is not parked adjacent to or under buildings "

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/arb6-recall-notice-uk.22854/

[ThisIsJustSomeNameChosenBy]

I've been planning on buying a NETA V due to low prices, too.
However, the company producing the NETA V recently cut 400 jobs in Thailand and has severe financial problems.
So I'm a bit worried about future availability of spare parts for NETA cars.

I also do worry about the mentioned crash safety rating. Otherwise, I think a modern EV is a good choice, and will be less trouble than an ICE car, for a long time. LFP batteries will most likely outlast the car itself (note that 2023 Neta V have been produced with LFP and NMC batteries). Also, LFP batteries are significantly safer than NMC batteries.

[richard_smith237]

11 hours ago, mikebike said:

We have had a Neta V for 8 months now. No issues. Extremely happy 😊 Suspension is soft, but it's not a sports car... Charges from 16% to full overnight plugged into regular wall outlet. I've done over 320 Kms with 16% left. Nice interior and sound system. Great around town. Lots of mods available if you're into that 😉

 

Where do you get your car serviced ??

Is there a dealer network where you can get the brakes changed etc ?

 

 

[vinny41]

2 hours ago, ThisIsJustSomeNameChosenBy said:

I've been planning on buying a NETA V due to low prices, too.
However, the company producing the NETA V recently cut 400 jobs in Thailand and has severe financial problems.
So I'm a bit worried about future availability of spare parts for NETA cars.

I also do worry about the mentioned crash safety rating. Otherwise, I think a modern EV is a good choice, and will be less trouble than an ICE car, for a long time. LFP batteries will most likely outlast the car itself (note that 2023 Neta V have been produced with LFP and NMC batteries). Also, LFP batteries are significantly safer than NMC batteries.

If your looking at a new car it will be the  NETA V-II which was launched in March 2024 currently selling at between B406K-B429K, B429K is the listed price as I think very diffcult to find brand new Neta V version 1 

[DavisH]

On 12/29/2024 at 5:27 PM, novacova said:

Millions of them on the roads, haven’t heard of any issues with cvt’s. Though as with any a/t, problems are likely to occur if neglected. 

The swift cvt is known to be good for 300K km+ with proper maintenance (info from an independent suzuki garage). Ours is at about 140k kms and nearly 12 years old. Only ever replaced the air cond evaporator and normal servicing done. It certainly cheaper to maintain than our hondas.