Juristic want's to ban weed possession in the building - are there other weed free condos?

[scubascuba3]

  On 1/1/2025 at 4:25 PM, Jingthing said:

Criminalizing odorous stir fries

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Already frowned upon

[Jingthing]

  On 1/1/2025 at 10:00 PM, scubascuba3 said:

Already frowned upon

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Condos aren't banning cooking.

[Jingthing]

  On 1/1/2025 at 8:50 PM, RSD1 said:

A completely revolting habit and smell. And so is cigarette smoke. The smell of burning cannabis can be nice when it isn't too strong. It kind of has a pleasant herbal scent to me.
 

Even though I vape, I still wouldn't want to be stuffed in a room full of heavy cannabis smoke either though. Basically all smoke is unhealthy to breathe in and I don't want to breathe any smoke that I don't need to. In fact, everyone should have the human right not to be forced to breathe in any second hand smoke at all if they don't want to. To me that right applies both in the home and in public places. Condos are semi-public places in the sense that it's basically a shared living space. If you don't want to live in that sort of communal living environment where you have to be mindful of others then you need to get yourself a house and you can smoke it up all you want.

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No.

The interior of condos are PRIVATE spaces..

[Wuvu2]

  On 1/1/2025 at 9:29 PM, JensenZ said:

Smoke your cannabis with doors closed. You have a right to smoke cannabis, but I also have a right to breathe fresh air. If your right takes away mine, it's not ok.

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Absolutely correct. It's a solidly built condo. In the hallways, I can smell other folk's food and smoke but with my door closed and especially with the AC running I don't have any problem with hallway smells entering my room. Of course there is no nsmoking in common spaces which applies to all kinds of smoke. This is Pattaya FFS.

 

Anyone raising children in Pattaya condo and complaining about the unwholsome environment needs to figure a better solution for their family.

 

 

[YaiJung]

I was just in Pattaya with my family.  Any smell of weed is an improvement on the general sewage/garbage odor that hangs over the entire place.  Don't get me wrong, I love Pattaya/Jomtien, but complaining about cannabis smell in a stinky place like Pattaya...doesn't get much more "Karen" than that. 

 

And to anyone suggesting vaping...you must not be a medicinal user.  The high from vaping is garbage no matter how much you spend on the latest device.  Maybe dabbing(vaping) hash rosin isn't so bad, but presently illegal here.  Anxiety ridden unpleasant shadow of a high is all I get from dry herb vaping.  Edibles are a ridiculous solution as well.  OP needs to move, his condo is full of Pattaya Karens..a special breed!  

[Phillip9]

  On 1/1/2025 at 7:51 PM, Jingthing said:

I call B.S.

What about cigars? 

If  weed in a closed condo room makes you sick, you're a bit of a freak, and you support restricting the flippin' FREEDOM of the entire population to cater to you. That's disgusting. 

BTW, I hate the smell of tobacco and asthmatic, yet I would never have the gall to be a SUPER KAREN about what other people do within their own homes.

Of course PUBLIC PLACES are a different kettle of stinky fish. 

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Weed is way worse than cigars.  Or at least the smell carries much further. 

 

If you want freedom, go buy your own house on your own property and do whatever you want.  Every condo comes with a long list of rules and regulations to protect everyone living there.  If you don't like that, stop whining about it, and don't live in a condo.

[Phulublub]

  On 1/1/2025 at 4:39 PM, Jingthing said:

Bull.

So they're gonna ban tobacco too within condos.

Both smell.

 

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Indeed they do, but cannabis is stronger and, to many, worse.  It is all about recognising and respecting the rights and conditions of others.

 

I had an incident a few years ago with a neighbour who smoked (cigarettes) with his door and patio door open.  The smell permeated into the hallway so I asked him to keep his door closed  "But I don't want my condo full of smoke" was the reply!  Er........so don't smoke it it then!  But to inflict his residue on others for his own comfort...sorry not on. 

 

Before that ,we had a guy who liked to cook a lot of deep fried food - again keeping condo door and patio open...result, smell into hallway.  Asked to stop by several then reported to Juristic who told him to stop iaw Condo regulations. 

 

Enjoy your own condo by all means, and do whatever you wish inside those walls...but as soon as whatever you do impacts on others, you are affecting their enjoyment of their own condo.  If you want to create smells, make loud noise, or anything else that impacts others, then go buy a big house where your actions will be contained.

 

PH

[ChaiyaTH]

I used to just smoke inside my own grow tent as it has the ventilator and filter in the first place to prevent weed smells. I likely would have done that too if I lived in a condo where others complain etc. It worked fine that way when it was illegal too.

 

Is a win win situation anyway, you make your own quality clean weed too.

[RSD1]

  On 1/2/2025 at 12:36 AM, Wuvu2 said:

Absolutely correct. It's a solidly built condo. In the hallways, I can smell other folk's food and smoke but with my door closed and especially with the AC running I don't have any problem with hallway smells entering my room. Of course there is no nsmoking in common spaces which applies to all kinds of smoke. This is Pattaya FFS.

 

Anyone raising children in Pattaya condo and complaining about the unwholsome environment needs to figure a better solution for their family.

 

 

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Living in a condo there are always going to be rules that one need to comply with. It's part of the package. And smoking is always going to be a contentious issue for anyone that smokes anything while living in a condo. So rules aside, have you come up with an alternative solution that's workable for you?

[balo]

A lot of condo complexes do not allow cannabis and smoking in general. Dusit Grand Park are one of them.  

[Summerinsiam]

Who cares? In my opinion it is the most overrated drug in the world.

[impulse]

If the rules against weed were in place when I bought (or rented) the place, fair play. 

 

My concern is changing the terms and conditions long after the purchase of a property.  If I'm renting, it's a minor inconvenience to pick up sticks.  If it's going to cost me a wad of money to sell, that's different.

 

The same would apply to changing any rules, like pets, kids, weed, lounging naked on the balcony...  Whatever.

 

[Phillip9]

  On 1/2/2025 at 11:08 AM, impulse said:

If the rules against weed were in place when I bought (or rented) the place, fair play. 

 

My concern is changing the terms and conditions long after the purchase of a property.  If I'm renting, it's a minor inconvenience to pick up sticks.  If it's going to cost me a wad of money to sell, that's different.

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The rules you agree to when you rent or buy a condo normally allow for changes to the rules under certain conditions.  So you shouldn't rent or buy a condo, if you don't agree to the possibility of rule changes.  This is one of the many very good reasons to never buy a condo.

[Phulublub]

  On 1/2/2025 at 12:17 PM, Phillip9 said:

 

The rules you agree to when you rent or buy a condo normally allow for changes to the rules under certain conditions.  So you shouldn't rent or buy a condo, if you don't agree to the possibility of rule changes.  This is one of the many very good reasons to never buy a condo.

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Or to do your due diligence before buying to make sure that the estate is well run.

 

PH

[Puwa]

Sounds like your juristic person has been resurrected from ancient DNA. Roll a fatty, call Jeff Goldblum.

[jippytum]

  On 1/1/2025 at 6:06 PM, ericthai said:

maybe they can include Durian!

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They do including most hotels and public transport

[1happykamper]

  On 1/1/2025 at 4:39 PM, Jingthing said:

Bull.

So they're gonna ban tobacco too within condos.

Both smell.

 

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You don't get out much do ya cupcake. 🤣🤣. Most condos are 100% smoke free.. so that includes balconies. 

[jippytum]

No doubt the smell of weed can be a problem in a condo building. 

If the owners vote to ban it at the AGM the condo manager should enforce it. 

[tomazbodner]

  On 1/1/2025 at 2:33 PM, Wuvu2 said:

Does anyone know of other weed-free condos?

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At former PM's condo brand... not illegal per se, but smoking is illegal throughout the building and there's a designated smoking area near the security office only. While anyone could smoke inside their room, but not balcony, if smell comes out of the room to common areas (corridors) or is smelled by others, including on their balconies, there's 5000 baht penalty to the room owner. Even if smoking inside the room, I don't think it would be possible for smell not to get out of the room.

 

They enforce penalty by adding that to maintenance fees outstanding, and if not paid, water is cut to the room. We have Urbanice app where people are thrashing each other in Social feed, and there's [condo brand] Home app, where complaints and reports can be made to juristic office.

 

There were a couple of days on my floor when strong weed smell was present. Don't know who reported it but saw discussion in Urbanice... haven't noticed any smell on this floor since. Though when I was away for a few days, I got a warning from juristic that someone complained of cigarette smoke on balcony - they sent warnings to all adjacent rooms to the one that complained. Don't smoke and wasn't home so I can easily refute that, but I understand the complaints as well - the smoke gets to clothes people dry outside, some showed cigarette butts thrown off balconies, landing on their balconies and burning holes into their clothes drying outside...

 

But,  this is mostly problem with tenants, not with room owners living in condo. We did get rules and regulations to read and agree to when buying condo, and it's hanging in the lifts all the time, where it clearly states that any kind of smoking is prohibited in entire project except designated area, along with fines for it and a QR code to download the app to file a complaint to juristic.

[wombat]

  On 1/1/2025 at 7:22 PM, Jingthing said:

 

What's your definition of woke? 

 

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[Phillip9]

  On 1/3/2025 at 1:51 AM, wombat said:

What's your definition of woke? 

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I can't understand how woke has anything to do with weed smoking.  Woke is all about identity politics and cancel culture.  It seems like some of you guys have just been trained to keep repeating these buzz words without even knowing what they mean.

[Thingamabob]

Obviously different people have different sensitivities to fumes caused by smoking. I have no problem with fumes from cannabis. cigars or pipes, but I do not like cigarette smoke although I can live with it. Would there be any objection to a rule that, in a condo, smoking of any kind in the building would only be allowed on balconies ?

[gargamon]

They should ban alcohol consumption in all condos too. I can't stand the smell of all that vomit.

[FritsSikkink]

  On 1/1/2025 at 4:34 PM, Phulublub said:

Pople do indeed have the right to enjoy the space within their condos...those who do not like the smell of other people's weed will be very happy that those who do cannot do so where it will impact that enjoyment.  My condo commitee/Juristic has banned the smoking (not possesson - that would be silly) of cannabis on the estate; I commend their stance.

 

PH

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Not that silly as durian are forbidden in a lot of places.

[kingstonkid]

  On 1/1/2025 at 4:39 PM, Jingthing said:

Bull.

So they're gonna ban tobacco too within condos.

Both smell.

 

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Believe it or not, it would not be a bad next step.  The situation is that people do not like weed smoke.  It would be a selling point for condos.  

 

Again if it is the will of the majority there is nothing that can be done.  

 

 

[Jingthing]

  On 1/3/2025 at 12:14 AM, 1happykamper said:

You don't get out much do ya cupcake. 🤣🤣. Most condos are 100% smoke free.. so that includes balconies. 

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You're confused.

I'm talking about WITHIN the condos 

That would only happen by an owner telling tenants its forbidden. Not a building wide rule about smoking WITHIN condos.

 

[OneZero]

  On 1/1/2025 at 10:49 PM, Jingthing said:

No.

The interior of condos are PRIVATE spaces..

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The problem is that some people's private actions inconsiderately overflow into other people's private spaces. 

You may not have a personal problem with that, but many other people do indeed have a personal problem with it.

 

One can say that's a problem with condos.  So, the condo owners have the option to vote for prohibition of other people's private space actions that inconsiderately overflow into their private space.  Condo rules - a double-edged sword.

[Wuvu2]

  On 1/3/2025 at 4:45 AM, OneZero said:

One can say that's a problem with condos.  So, the condo owners have the option to vote for prohibition of other people's private space actions that inconsiderately overflow into their private space.  Condo rules - a double-edged sword.

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If that's how juristic bodies worked I'd agree, but in reality the JPM puts motions on the agenda with his argument for passing it, and without any contrary considerations. If it were truly a democratic process, both the "for" and "opposing " arguments would be posted on the agenda and ballots. 

 

Then, to vote an owner must be present at the meeting, or assign a proxy person to deliver their votes at the meeting. Those votes are usually pre-cast on the ballot by the owner. There's no voting from afar under Thai law so none of the absent owners get a say unless they know someone to handle their proxy. Most don't bother. There is some discussion time for motions at the meeting, but that does nothing for those that voted by proxy or can't make the meeting. 

 

In my experience, the JPM can push almost anything through even if isn't even legal under Thai law. We've had a lot of lawsuits in the building over that. The argument that "it's the will of the owners" sounds good but that's not really how juristic bodies work. 

 

 

[1happykamper]

  On 1/3/2025 at 4:44 AM, Jingthing said:

You're confused.

I'm talking about WITHIN the condos 

That would only happen by an owner telling tenants its forbidden. Not a building wide rule about smoking WITHIN condos.

 

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Nope. You're still not on board... Inside most condo units... Owners and /or tenants are not allowed to smoke anything.. Same for smelly cooking, durian, no pets and no gas appliances of any kind. Ok? 

[RSD1]

  On 1/3/2025 at 3:12 AM, Phillip9 said:

I can't understand how woke has anything to do with weed smoking.  Woke is all about identity politics and cancel culture.  It seems like some of you guys have just been trained to keep repeating these buzz words without even knowing what they mean.

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I completely agree. These political references have nothing to do with weed smoking or any new condo rules about it. The real issue here is the use of weed in a condo and the potential disruption it may cause to other residents.
 

Yet throughout this discussion, I’ve noticed several replies where people use terms like Woke or Karen. Whenever I hear those words, I just cringe. I don’t care what they’re meant to represent; they’re simply modern American stereotypes used to label behavior. I also tend to dislike newer forms of American slang. Words like these often lack humor, wit, or any clever use of the English language.

 

To me, such terms are both meaningless and repugnant and I don't want to add to that kind of discourse by even responding to them. I also generally avoid engaging with people who use them all together, as it suggests a lack of independent thought and a weak reliance on cliched slurs instead of any meaningful expression. Resorting to these labels reflects an inability to describe situations without leaning on divisive rhetoric drawn from political pop culture or cancel culture.

 

You’d never catch me using words like these, or anything similar, even if someone’s behavior aligns perfectly with their definitions. I prefer to express my thoughts in my own words. The last thing I ever want is to be labeled part of a movement where people blindly follow the lead dog, stuck with a narrow, unchanging perspective of something that lacks any substance to begin with.