Dear Folks,

 

The chicken breasts are just too tough in my city, here in Thailand.

 

As the next best thing, I am going to switch away from breasts and begin roasting pork.

 

I love pork, in fact, and always have.

 

Here is a very informative vid from a seller of pork in the USA.

But, what to do, and where to buy, in Thailand, and not any specific city, but absolutely from one of the major retailers; because I want meat that has been kept at optimal temps to prevent disease, from slaughter to the oven.

 

Also, i want to be able to use my AmEx card, if possible, to make repeated purchases.

And, I intend to buy about 20 Kgs at a time (which is not a lot for me), because I tend to freeze it and then consume it over a period of months, not weeks.

 

As I say, when I was young, next to breast meat, pork was just about as tasty.

 

When i was in China, where everyone loves pork, I bought pork from the local wet markets, but I found it overly tough, compared to what I used to get from COSTCO stores in Taipei.

Huge difference, in my estimation, between what I got in China and what I got from the Costcos in Taiwan.

 

However, since I am no longer in Taiwan, but in Thailand, and since, unfortuatnely, there seem to be no Costcos here....then.....

Where to buy to get tender pork loin, of good quality?

 

And on to the vid:

 

Is pork expensive in Thailand....?

Because I have never purchased pork here in CM.

 

Actually, the cost might not bother me as much as getting stuck with a tough cut of pork.

 

I will be heading out shopping, once more, around January 15th, when the tourists are less, and when traffic-jams are less likely.

 

Thanks.

Gamma

 

Note:  I don't think I need any help with the roasting.  I have been roasting pork for many years, and it turns out fine, when the meat is not tough to begin with.  I normally just use a large oven, and I do not plan to roast over the coals, outdoors (although I could, I suppose, if I were willing to buy a charcoal roasting grill).  I will use one or both of the two Electrolux convection ovens that I have in my kitchen.  I have the largest Electrolux ovens....I think they are about 73 Liter ovens, in fact.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seriously ????  

weirdo

Which area  in Thailand ?

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

Seriously ????  

 

I have now given up on trying to get tender chicken breasts here in Thailand.

 

I will try pork.

 

I plan to discard the remaining frozen kilos of chicken breast in my freezers.

Just not worth the electricity to roast them.

 

Maybe due to the retailer that I bought from...but I am not sure.

I have tried every which way to cook the breasts...and always tough.

So, no more of that for me.

 

 I am on to pork as a very good alternative.

 

I love roast pork.

 

 

Just now, Ralf001 said:

Which area  in Thailand ?

 

Anywhere near CM City.

 

5 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Anywhere near CM City.

 

 

Yeah, they do not sell pork in CM.

17 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Where is the best place to buy pork loin for roasting in oven?

Slaughterhouse between ban rongkongkhao and banthi

15 minutes ago, novacova said:

Slaughterhouse between ban rongkongkhao and banthi

 

do they keep the meat at optimal temperature and accept amex cards ?

23 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

do they keep the meat at optimal temperature

Have no idea, never bothered to take the temperature.

23 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

and accept amex cards ?

Strange question 

4 minutes ago, novacova said:

 

Strange question 

 

did you not read the OP ?

28 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

did you not read the OP ?

Yes, Amex card at a rural slaughterhouse in cm isn’t going to happen. Cash or qr. 

I buy chicken tenderloins and pork tenderloins at Tops. I buy salmon, beef, ham and cheese at Makro.

 

Methinks the OP's palate is so refined he should not be living in Thailand.

 

Oh <deleted>, he'll probably start a thread on the best country for gourmets. Or is he a gourmand?

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I buy chicken tenderloins and pork tenderloins at Tops. I buy salmon, beef, ham and cheese at Makro.

 

Methinks the OP's palate is so refined he should not be living in Thailand.

 

Oh <deleted>, he'll probably start a thread on the best country for gourmets. Or is he a gourmand?

 

More of a gourmand.

 

So, you would say that Tops might be most similar to COSTCO for quality of meats?

 

This might be my problem, because I have been buying chicken breasts from a different retailer, and have not had much success.

Very tough old birds, or fast-growth birds....

 

Or, maybe those birds sold by the other major retailer in CM are weightlifters, or something....maybe....

 

Important Update:   Robust Chicken-breast Collagen Issue has now been solved....!

 

a.  As you know, even after using a variety of roasting methods, the local retailer where I purchased the many kilos of chicken-breasts, ....seems to have provided me with birds that are not fit for roasting.

 

b. I had become frustrated and disappointed.

 

c.  After roasting, no matter what I tried....

 

d.  The roasted-result was like chewing on a rubber Dog-Toy.

 

e. I was just about to chuck out the bags of breasts when....I decided to give it one last, final, College-Try.

 

f. So.....

 

g.  I took out my slow-cooker, which also has a HI-setting that can boil.

 

h. I filled the cooker up to the brim with breasts.

 

i.  I turned the cooker to HI, and boiled them for about 45 minutes.

 

j.  Next, I set the cooker to LOW.  And I cooked, and I cooked, for about NINE hours, until 12:33 AM, this morning.

 

k.  Happy to Report:  I poked one breast with a fork, and the thing just completely fell apart, so soft and tender was it.

 

l.  This means that there is no need to chuck the breasts.  I can keep them in my freezer, and just enjoy chicken soup...whenever.....

 

m.  One more thing of importance:  I added about 4 inches of ginger to the soup.  And, it tastes GREAT!

 

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I am not much of a soup lover.

I prefer roast meat, same as Tom Jones.

 

So, in the future, i will never again attempt roast chicken in Thailand.

 

Instead, I will always opt for roasting either Pork or Suckling Lamb.

 

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Thank you for the info about Tops.

I will use Tops, in the future.

 

Tops is one of the best retailer for food in my area.

I have known the manager of one of the Tops stores for over a decade.

Such a very thoughtful, kind, and helpful person is he....

And, it's nice for me, too, to have at least one friend in Chiang Mai.

 

I am feeling better now about my breasts...because.....

All is well that ends well.

 

And, in addition, it's just so nice to start out the New Year on the right foot.

 

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More later about the Pork sourcing issue, on January 15th....hopefully....

 

 

 

 

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Just now, still kicking said:

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We buy almost all our protein from Makro.  Seafood, usually frozen.  

 

Chicken breast, no prob, but don't buy the local, scrawny free range chickens from fresh market.  Only the fat, plumb, tender ones from Makro, and CP product, I believe.

 

Breasts are not very forgiving, so don't overcook them.  No later than 165°F.   Do use a thermometer.  Thighs & legs you can abuse to damn near 200°F, and still tender & juicy.  

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

We buy almost all our protein from Makro.  Seafood, usually frozen.  

 

Chicken breast, no prob, but don't buy the local, scrawny free range chickens from fresh market.  Only the fat, plumb, tender ones from Makro, and CP product, I believe.

 

Breasts are not very forgiving, so don't overcook them.  No later than 165°F.   Do use a thermometer.  Thighs & legs you can abuse to damn near 200°F, and still tender & juicy.  

Do you buy pangasius? If so, how do you cook it? It seems to be pumped full of water.

13 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Do you buy pangasius? If so, how do you cook it? It seems to be pumped full of water.

 

Let's always keep in mind the warning that we have had drummed into us since we were young, namely:

 

 

And, in case you are worried about water, among the sexes....

 

 

Since we are more full of water, then this might be just one of various reasons why we are superior to women, a fact which has been recognized for thousands of years.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Do you buy pangasius? If so, how do you cook it? It seems to be pumped full of water.

No, most white fish has little to no flavor at all, and Cod being a notable exception.  Have sampled pangasius, and agree, they shrink down to nothing.  Good for a seasoned batter fried fish or sandwich, with lots of other flavors added.

 

Have to agree with mom on that one, and worst thing to do with fish, is bread/batter & fry it.  If you want to eat fish that is.  If you want to eat bread, just grill some garlic bread 

 

Usual eat Salmon, shrimp, crap, lobster (Maine), mussels or scallops.  Only eat 'white' fish when O&A, and only bbq'd, as that adds the nice smoky flavor, and maybe the lemongrass stuffed inside.

19 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Let's always keep in mind the warning that we have had drummed into us since we were young, namely:

 

 

And, in case you are worried about water, among the sexes....

 

 

Since we are more full of water, then this might be just one of various reasons why we are superior to women, a fact which has been recognized for thousands of years.

 

 

You're certainly full of something, besides water I mean.

14 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

No, most white fish has little to no flavor at all, and Cod being a notable exception. 

 

Why is it that almost anytime I hear of cod, I immediately think of the word, codpiece?

 

I think it must be that, when i was young, I grew up with Shakespeare.

 

 

35 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

No, most white fish has little to no flavor at all, and Cod being a notable exception.  Have sampled pangasius, and agree, they shrink down to nothing.  Good for a seasoned batter fried fish or sandwich, with lots of other flavors added.

 

Have to agree with mom on that one, and worst thing to do with fish, is bread/batter & fry it.  If you want to eat fish that is.  If you want to eat bread, just grill some garlic bread 

 

Usual eat Salmon, shrimp, crap, lobster (Maine), mussels or scallops.  Only eat 'white' fish when O&A, and only bbq'd, as that adds the nice smoky flavor, and maybe the lemongrass stuffed inside.

Try Walleye if you get a chance. About the best flavored fish, white, of all fish. Flounder is also tasty and white.

4 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

You're certainly full of something, besides water I mean.

A bit nasty from someone professing to be a Christian.

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

A bit nasty from someone professing to be a Christian.

Why is it nasty to say he's full of beans?

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Why is it nasty to say he's full of beans?

It's not. If that is what you meant, you should have said so. Permit me to doubt that was your intended meaning.

Just now, Lacessit said:

It's not. If that is what you meant, you should have said so. Permit me to doubt that was your intended meaning.

Have you actually read a few of his posts?

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Have you actually read a few of his posts?

Stop deflecting.

 

I have met Christians before who attend church every Sunday, then lie like pigs in sh!t the rest of the week.

11 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Stop deflecting.

 

I have met Christians before who attend church every Sunday, then lie like pigs in sh!t the rest of the week.

Yes, there are hypocrites everywhere, but referring to someone who posts nonsense in that way, claims to be smarter than most here, and posts outrageous things in that way just seems to fit. A Christian, meaning all, are imperfect humans who follow Christ. This means they are humans and like all others are capable of making mistakes and not acting Christian like some times. God doesn't expect us to be perfect robots. He expects us to follow him and do what we can to be good and not turn our backs on him, having faith he is the way, and to try to be better the next time. Yes, I know there are people from all faiths that act like they don't follow their religions, like here in Thailand, where they pray to a statue hoping for money and gold.