3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

No you made that up.

 

I was pointing out that the Southport tweeters were charged, found guilty and sentenced to lengthy jail terms within a week, whereas Jones got to walk around for months on end as a free man waiting for his trial.

 

But then what else would you expect in a 2 tier system?

You are obviously not happy that Starmer’s government moved swiftly to quell coordinated violent race riots across the country.

 

 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

And if Reform hadn't threatened a civil suit they wouldn't have been.

 

Ah, of course. So when you are wrong you make something up about reform saving the day rather than just admitting you were wrong. Hilarious, but to be expected.

 

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 Any idea why it took so long given the CCTV video? 😄

Because there was a wider investigation in to police misconduct as there was footage of a police officer stamping on one of their heads. This is exactly what we said to you at the time but you just blathered on about "two tier Kier" and other stupid cliches. Once the investigation was complete, charges against the police were dismissed and the nose breakers were charged. It is called "due process".

Hilarious that you think reform had anything to do with it - you are more deluded than I thought.

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

This whole disgusting saga is an excellent example of why the UK is in such a mess.

Vigilante justice springs to mind.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You are obviously not happy that Starmer’s government moved swiftly to quell coordinated violent race riots across the country.

 

 

 

The tweet I was referring to was the one about immigration, not the protests about the slaughter of the innocent children.  

 

I am simply pointing out that the cases were treated completely differently depending on the characteristics of the "offender".

 

But hey, that's what happens under a 2 tier system.

 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Because there was a wider investigation in to police misconduct as there was footage of a police officer stamping on one of their heads. This is exactly what we said to you at the time but you just blathered on about "two tier Kier" and other stupid cliches. Once the investigation was complete, charges against the police were dismissed and the nose breakers were charged. It is called "due process".

Hilarious that you think reform had anything to do with it - you are more deluded than I thought.

 

Always an excuse isn't there... 😄

 

Well done Reform for forcing their hand on this. Next up, the rape/grooming gang inquiry.

 

I'm sure you'd like that brushed under the carpet as well. 

Send the disgusting POS to Canada.

 

Canada will take him.

5 minutes ago, roo860 said:

Vigilante justice springs to mind.

 

I would never call for that. 

 

Even if I wanted to, I couldn't because I am not a member of the Labour party like Ricky Jones. Therefore my sentence would likely be swift and harsh like the Tory councillor's wife.  

 

That's the way a 2 tier system works. Great if you're on the left (for now), which is why the Lefties pretend it doesn't exist despite all the cases proving otherwise. 

 

"It's all a conspiracy"!!! 😄

 

"Here's a link to the verdict" 😄

14 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Always an excuse isn't there... 😄

 

Well done Reform for forcing their hand on this. Next up, the rape/grooming gang inquiry.

 

I'm sure you'd like that brushed under the carpet as well. 

 

I love being called delusional by Biden people. 

Just now, blaze master said:

 

I love being called delusional by Biden people. 

 

Biden literally pardoned pedos....and I'm not only talking about his son.

3 minutes ago, Celsius said:

 

Biden literally pardoned pedos....and I'm not only talking about his son.

 

I believe Liberals/Progressives prefer the term "Minor Attracted Person" 

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Always an excuse isn't there... 😄

 

Well done Reform for forcing their hand on this. Next up, the rape/grooming gang inquiry.

 

Delusional. Absolutely living in a fantasy land.

 

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I'm sure you'd like that brushed under the carpet as well. 

What on earth are you on about? What do I want brushed under the carpet? 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

All Starmer is interested in is saving his own skin by refusing to do an inquiry. Richard Tice has said Reform will do their own, hopefully Musk supports/publishes it. 

This all sounds a bit ridiculous and extremist anti Starmer driven by social media gurus and bedroom 'fact checking' warriors. Fact is this story is over a decade old, perps have been jailed, inquiries were already held and that the last Tory government didn't act on all the findings is the fault of the current 6 months in power government why exactly?

3 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

What on earth are you on about? What do I want brushed under the carpet? 

 

Well, the 2 tier justice system for a start. 

 

Do you oppose Labours decision to vote against an inquiry?

 

If not, you clearly want the scandal over the rape gangs brushed under the carpet as well.

Don't worry Abdul your benefits will remain we fixed it for you🤔

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

This all sounds a bit ridiculous and extremist anti Starmer driven by social media gurus and bedroom 'fact checking' warriors. Fact is this story is over a decade old, perps have been jailed, inquiries were already held and that the last Tory government didn't act on all the findings is the fault of the current 6 months in power government why exactly?

 

Let's stat with...

 

1. Starmer was head of the CPP.

2. Labour just voted against an inquiry. 

 

2 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

This all sounds a bit ridiculous and extremist anti Starmer driven by social media gurus and bedroom 'fact checking' warriors. Fact is this story is over a decade old, perps have been jailed, inquiries were already held and that the last Tory government didn't act on all the findings is the fault of the current 6 months in power government why exactly?

Not true, still going on to this day, plenty more scum to catch and still girls being raped by these barbarians unfortunately.

41 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

The tweet I was referring to was the one about immigration, not the protests about the slaughter of the innocent children.  

 

I am simply pointing out that the cases were treated completely differently depending on the characteristics of the "offender".

 

But hey, that's what happens under a 2 tier system.

 

 

 

 

The cases were each conduced according to the law in open courts taking into account the offenses and circumstances in which they were committed.

 

The Government stamped out wide spread coordinated race riots almost overnight.

 

Text book law and order in practice.

 

One of the victims that wants a new inquiry. Jess Phillips are you listening? You said if victims wanted one..............

 

 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Government stamped out wide spread coordinated race riots almost overnight.

 

The thread isnt about race riots, its about convicted grooming  gang members still walking about UK streets.

 

You might ask yourself why Labour would be dead set against a National Inquiry with the powers to arrest people who ignored, covered up or turned a blind eye to what was going on.

 

Some light reading that may explain it

 

https://labour25.com/labour25/

This criminal should obviously not be in the UK.

 

How does such a dangerous criminal that was ordered deported after serving his sentence get let out of prison early?

 

There is no logical reason why detention should not have been continued up until placed on the aircraft back to Pakistan.

Who was home secretary in 2014… oh it was Theresa May.

 

Perhaps she was too busy at the time decimating the police force.

 

 

 

 

 

If UK citizens want  action takenon these convicted sex crimes offenders, and even on the  bogus refugees, they must understand and agree that there will be a reduction of their own civil liberties and  protections guaranteed under the judicial system.

 

The accused have successfully argued against deportation using various human rights  statutes and due process rules. It is impossible to carve out an exception for such cases. It is an all or nothing scenario. This is why so many groups, who one would  expect to be  on the side of the victims, have supported these evil criminals and other law breakers.

 

The same laws that protect  the rapists also protect the UK people from stop and search or detention without charge etc.  Make up your minds and  follow through. And no, I don't make up the. legal interpretations. That's what the judicial experts, and judges have stated. 

13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The cases were each conduced according to the law in open courts taking into account the offenses and circumstances in which they were committed.

 

The Government stamped out wide spread coordinated race riots almost overnight.

 

Text book law and order in practice.

 

 

There were no race riots, you must have been listening to conspiracy theories. Demonstrations were about the murder of 3 children by somebody they thought was a muslim, as it turned out the demonstrators were right, race had nothing to do with it.

17 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

20 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

This all sounds a bit ridiculous and extremist anti Starmer driven by social media gurus and bedroom 'fact checking' warriors. Fact is this story is over a decade old, perps have been jailed, inquiries were already held and that the last Tory government didn't act on all the findings is the fault of the current 6 months in power government why exactly?

 

Let's stat with...

 

1. Starmer was head of the CPP.

2. Labour just voted against an inquiry. 

 

Utter nonsense and you know it. Starmer’s association with the grooming cases as CPP occurred over a decade ago, and the cases were investigated and prosecuted under his watch. Despite this, he is still being targeted by far-right groups and politicians today for political reasons. By bringing up the grooming scandal today, Elon Musk with his tools and other social media bedroom warriors are trying to cast doubt on his handling of the grooming cases and tarnish his reputation and ultimately undermine support for the Labour Party who were otherwise not in power and in opposition during the whole period.

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

This criminal should obviously not be in the UK.

 

How does such a dangerous criminal that was ordered deported after serving his sentence get let out of prison early?

 

There is no logical reason why detention should not have been continued up until placed on the aircraft back to Pakistan.

Who was home secretary in 2014… oh it was Theresa May.

 

Perhaps she was too busy at the time decimating the police force.

 

 

 

 

 

It does explain in the OP why and its nothing to do with your make believe assumptions

3 minutes ago, proton said:

 

There were no race riots, you must have been listening to conspiracy theories. Demonstrations were about the murder of 3 children by somebody they thought was a muslim, as it turned out the demonstrators were right, race had nothing to do with it.

Quit with the gaslighting, they were race riots.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/08/1196982856/the-root-cause-of-the-race-riots-in-the-uk

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Quit with the gaslighting, they were race riots.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/08/1196982856/the-root-cause-of-the-race-riots-in-the-uk

 

You believe every thing you read then in lefty publications? Islam is NOT a race, being concerned about immigration has nothing to do with race either, some just wish it did.

1 minute ago, proton said:

 

You believe every thing you read then in lefty publications? Islam is NOT a race, being concerned about immigration has nothing to do with race either, some just wish it did.

 

According to Chomper, being upset about the murderous slaying of 3 young children makes you a racist and Islamaphobe.

 

According to Starmer, wanting an inquiry into the rape of hundreds of young girls makes you far right.

 

The usual boring slurs from gaslighters trying (but failing) to hide the truth. 

 

4 hours ago, proton said:

They follow a man who had a 6 year old 'wife' when he was 50 who he raped when she was 9 and who made up a book which condones raping your enemies and marriage to pre pubescent girls. He thinks he has done nothing wrong just as he thinks the prophet did nothing wrong. What did the muslim community have to say about this sick behaviour?

They should Islam to save the 9 year old girls.

 

And while they are at it ban Catholics to save the 9 year old boys.

 

If this scumbag was in my area I would bash him. Police are not doing anything so someone has to.

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

According to Chomper, being upset about the murderous slaying of 3 young children makes you a racist and Islamaphobe.

 

According to Starmer, wanting an inquiry into the rape of hundreds of young girls makes you far right.

 

The usual boring slurs from gaslighters trying (but failing) to hide the truth. 

 

I’ll thank you not to attribute views to me that I myself have never expressed.

 

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

No you made that up.

 

I was pointing out that the Southport tweeters were charged, found guilty and sentenced to lengthy jail terms within a week, whereas Jones got to walk around for months on end as a free man waiting for his trial.

 

But then what else would you expect in a 2 tier system?

Prosecution of the criminals you choose to defend hasn’t been swift in every case, this criminal has only just been sentenced:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/06/key-architect-of-riots-after-southport-attack-jailed-for-seven-and-a-half-years