Mahout charged for elephant goring Spanish woman in Thailand

[quake]

3 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Using goats as mahouts now !! ….. where will it end ?

 

We found the little rascal.

Just got to get him back to the elephant farm now.

 

[ujayujay]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Explain to me how this mahout isn't just being used as a convenient scapegoat for the sins of an entire industry?

No need to reexamine the entire industry if you can pin it on one presumably not powerful man. 

OK, you think the Mahut has no responsibility towards the customers

[John Drake]

It seems to me that a lot of these elephant sanctuaries are suspect. Wasn't the Swiss doctor kicker in Phuket running one of these "non-profits" and living high off the hog?

[MikeandDow]

13 minutes ago, John Drake said:

It seems to me that a lot of these elephant sanctuaries are suspect. Wasn't the Swiss doctor kicker in Phuket running one of these "non-profits" and living high off the hog?

According to World Animal Protection

3837 elephants in 357 venues across Asia and found that 63% were living in severely inadequate conditions. When not performing, they were restrained by short chains in noisy, dirty conditions, had poor diets, and received very limited medical care.

[PETERTHEEATER]

7 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Using goats as mahouts now !! ….. where will it end ?

Butt.....it's a nanny state.

[metisdead]

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[connda]

7 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:

Elephants can be dangerous and unpredictable for tourists unless you know how to handle them. 

And then?  Not even then.  Elephants are dangerous and unpredictable. Especially when they are hormonal. Elephants in musk are freaking deadly.

People + Elephants = Bad Outcomes That Are Then Blamed on The Elephant and mahout.  Observation only parks at the most. 

From India.  And you expected what?  Friendly Dumbo?
An 80 kg mahout can not control a 4000 to 8000 lb Asian elephant.  Best of luck for anyone who thinks so. So in this video, it's the mahout's fault that the elephant went ballistic?  That little guy sitting on top of the elephant isn't in control of anything.  It's the nature of elephants.  They are not docile creatures.  If you want a docile elephant, buy a stuffed furry one from a toy store. 
 

[fredwiggy]

4 hours ago, RoyLee said:

Says a female elephant gored her, but only males have tusks. What little I've seen of elephants here (in Pai), the herds accessible by the public were all female. When the gf asked why, the mahout said they have trouble hiring mahouts otherwise. 

Both male and female elephants have tusks, although they are smaller in Asians

[connda]

4 hours ago, RoyLee said:

Says a female elephant gored her, but only males have tusks. What little I've seen of elephants here (in Pai), the herds accessible by the public were all female. When the gf asked why, the mahout said they have trouble hiring mahouts otherwise. 

 

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Both male and female elephants have tusks, although they are smaller in Asians

Ditto - Female Asian Elephants can have tusks, but not as pronounced as males. 

[ChipButty]

I disagree with these elephant places, I've lived long enough to know it's all about money, what about the guy who booted the doctor? he seemed to live a life of luxury on his elephant farm, 

There is companies run guided tours from America to these elephant farms donating thousands of dollars 

[richard_smith237]

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Explain to me how this mahout isn't just being used as a convenient scapegoat for the sins of an entire industry?

No need to reexamine the entire industry if you can pin it on one presumably not powerful man. 

 

Well said....       

 

 

[richard_smith237]

45 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

5 hours ago, RoyLee said:

Says a female elephant gored her, but only males have tusks. What little I've seen of elephants here (in Pai), the herds accessible by the public were all female. When the gf asked why, the mahout said they have trouble hiring mahouts otherwise. 

Both male and female elephants have tusks, although they are smaller in Asians

 

African Elephants: In both African savanna elephants and African forest elephants females typically have tusks which are usually smaller and thinner than those of males.

 

Asian Elephants: Female Asian elephants usually do not have prominent tusks. Instead, they may have small tusk-like structures called "tushes" that are not visible unless the mouth is open.

 

'Gored her' implies tusks were used (gored implies sharp object), without getting too graphical - its possible the article used the term 'gored' rather loosely when mauled might be a more correct term.

[MikeandDow]

Lots of bad reporting on this killing  some say "male elephant",  "female","pierced her with its tusk," "slapped her with its trunk"  but it does not matter she died,  She should not have been doing this,  These are wild animals Elephants are Not domestcated, not Pets, Visiting captive elephant experiences is clearly not an ethical or responsible act. Elephants are highly dangerous and should not be allowed to be near tourists it should be  observation only, Elephants won’t naturally move close enough to humans to be touched. If you’re allowed to touch an elephant, it means that the animal has experienced brutal training methods for the amusement of tourists.Currently, one person is killed on average for each male elephant being held in captivity. As well as these direct killings, close contact with captive elephants can pass dangerous diseases such as tuberculosis to tourists and handlers. none of this is published by the tourist boards i wonder why !!

as far as who to blame well that is a can of worms !! at a guess it should be the mahout all the way to the goverment, negligience to unsafe practise

[fredwiggy]

This isn't the full video I saw earlier somewhere but it tells what happened. Elephants belong in the wild and are abused to do tricks, and have been for years.............https://www.newsflare.com/video/656395/elephant-irritated-by-handler-poking-her-with-stick-tramples-him-to-death