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7 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

".........Despite not supporting Trump in the election, the band decided to put politics aside for the occasion."

 

Obviously they're putting politics aside if they're happy to perform for someone they opposed to be President. They also open themselves up to accusations of hypocrisy and greed which they don't appear to deny.

How are they being hypocrites if they are did/do not support Trump, but they perform at the inauguration? 

 

If a band that did not support gay marriage played at a gay marriage, would they be hypocrites? 

 

If a person that opposes tax-cuts takes the cut when it is implemented, does that make him hypocrite? 

 

Are the government employees that work the event also hypocrites? 

 

In any event, unless they are very outspoken, we have no way of knowing who anyone votes for. Do you really believe that 95% of the people in entertainment think Harris-Walz was a better choice? 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'm assuming Trump royalties or not that all the publicity is meaning lots of money for them.

I hope so.

Otherwise they're selling their souls for nothing.

Or it could be that they love to perform and are honored to be invited. 

 

I'm not a fan of Biden or Obama, but I would be honored to do most anything they asked of me. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Whose past statements about what?

 

Do you think it unethical to perform at a Presidential inauguration? 

 

Your deliberately twisting my comment.

 

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50 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

".........Despite not supporting Trump in the election, the band decided to put politics aside for the occasion."

 

Obviously they're putting politics aside if they're happy to perform for someone they opposed to be President. They also open themselves up to accusations of hypocrisy and greed which they don't appear to deny.

 

  Its a job .

Its their work .

They have been booked to play a concert  .

Its not as if the bands who play at the Superbowl support the teams playing either 

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8 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Your deliberately twisting my comment.

 

This is your comment. How is it I am twisting it? 

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Posted
8 hours ago, RSD1 said:

'Y.M.C.A.' gay anthem group Village People to perform at Donald Trump inauguration events: 'This won't make some of you happy'
 

https://ew.com/village-people-performing-donald-trump-inauguration-8774084

I never really thought about it as a "gay anthem," but just a big hit from the 70s.  I lived in Greenwich Village back then, and there were gay people everywhere.  I guess I never thought about it much one way or the other.  I used to go the YMCA that's shown in the background of the YMCA music  video.  The McBurney YMCA.  I think it's still in the same place.  Anyway, I went there every day to work out and run.  They had a running track, exercise machines and. so on.  I was never one for running outside in the snow, so the YMCA worked. 

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3 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I never really thought about it as a "gay anthem," but just a big hit from the 70s.  I lived in Greenwich Village back then, and there were gay people everywhere.  I guess I never thought about it much one way or the other.  I used to go the YMCA that's shown in the background of the YMCA music  video.  The McBurney YMCA.  I think it's still in the same place.  Anyway, I went there every day to work out and run.  They had a running track, exercise machines and. so on.  I was never one for running outside in the snow, so the YMCA worked. 

 

   Did you get yourself clean and have good meal ?

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2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I never really thought about it as a "gay anthem," but just a big hit from the 70s.  I lived in Greenwich Village back then, and there were gay people everywhere.  I guess I never thought about it much one way or the other.  I used to go the YMCA that's shown in the background of the YMCA music  video.  The McBurney YMCA.  I think it's still in the same place.  Anyway, I went there every day to work out and run.  They had a running track, exercise machines and. so on.  I was never one for running outside in the snow, so the YMCA worked. 

Doesn't matter what you think.

It was and still is a gay anthem.

But it has become much bigger than that and there is no way that Trump is presenting the song as a gay anthem. His movement is deeply ANTI LGBT civil rights. But ironically it still IS a gay anthem. 

I think this video prude washes this a bit.

I was young man young man when the song hit and what it meant was the YMCA was a good place to go locally for gym stuff or as a cheap hotel when travelling with the obvious feature of it being very very very cruisy.

 

 

https://youtu.be/g-uo8mWaA0A

 

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15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Did you get yourself clean and have good meal ?

 I'm not sure about that particular YMCA.  I just went to run, work out, and leave.  I had a locker there,  so I just left my gym clothes there.  They'd wash them for you and put them back in your locker. For sure, though, it's possible to stay at some of the YMCAs in NYC. Like a hotel, but priced reasonably. I guess they also had food.  Not sure, though.  It's not like you'd starve in the middle of Manhattan if they didn't have a restaurant.

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5 minutes ago, jas007 said:

 I'm not sure about that particular YMCA.  I just went to run, work out, and leave.  I had a locker there,  so I just left my gym clothes there.  They'd wash them for you and put them back in your locker. For sure, though, it's possible to stay at some of the YMCAs in NYC. Like a hotel, but priced reasonably. I guess they also had food.  Not sure, though.  It's not like you'd starve in the middle of Manhattan if they didn't have a restaurant.

I've stayed overnight at a Y in San Francisco and Manhattan. I don't remember about restaurants but I do remember the shower rooms. Maybe they served a continental brekkie. Often they have dorm rooms like hostels and of course each one is going to different in some aspects. My impression back then is they attracted a lot of closeted and bi curious men not out enough to walk into a gay bar. (This was before apps.)

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15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Doesn't matter what you think.

It was and still is a gay anthem.

But it has become much bigger than that and there is no way that Trump is presenting the song as a gay anthem. His movement is deeply ANTI LGBT civil rights. But ironically it still IS a gay anthem. 

I think this video prude washes this a bit.

I was young man young man when the song hit and what it meant was the YMCA was a good place to go locally for gym stuff or as a cheap hotel when travelling with the obvious feature of it being very very very cruisy.

 

 

https://youtu.be/g-uo8mWaA0A

 

 

Gay people do not own the song.

 

The fact Trump is happy to have it at the inaguration just shows your rhetoric about him being deeply anti LGBT is nothing more than a slur. 

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1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

I've stayed overnight at a Y in San Francisco and Manhattan. I don't remember about restaurants but I do remember the shower rooms. Maybe they served a continental brekkie. Often they have dorm rooms like hostels and of course each one is going to different in some aspects.

 

   Were they communal shower rooms ?

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50 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How are they being hypocrites if they are did/do not support Trump, but they perform at the inauguration? 

 

If a band that did not support gay marriage played at a gay marriage, would they be hypocrites? 

 

If a person that opposes tax-cuts takes the cut when it is implemented, does that make him hypocrite? 

 

Are the government employees that work the event also hypocrites? 

 

In any event, unless they are very outspoken, we have no way of knowing who anyone votes for. Do you really believe that 95% of the people in entertainment think Harris-Walz was a better choice? 

 

 

I didn't say they were hypocrites. I said that they opened themselves up to accusations of hypocrisy and greed, which, if you read the gay press is exactly what has happened.

 

And it's not just the inauguration, they have agreed to appear at several other of Trump's events. That's their right of course but its also other people's rights to criticize. 

 

What's more worrying is that they are now saying YMCA is not a gay anthem despite milking it as such for years. I'm all for that as I could never stand it, but it's bit rich of them to deny it.  Even Trump called it "the gay national anthem" in 2022.

 

Initially the band threatened to sue Trump for using the song but changed their mind when the money started rolling in. 

 

"......lyricist Victor Willis changed his mind and wrote on Facebook that he no longer had an issue with the Republican candidate playing the band’s songs because “[they] has benefited greatly from use by the president elect”, and “estimated to [have grossed] several million dollars” since the tunes began being used."

 

So much for keeping music out of politics. 

Posted
Just now, JonnyF said:

 

Gay people do not own the song.

 

The fact Trump is happy to have it at the inaguration just shows your rhetoric about him being deeply anti LGBT is nothing more than a slur. 

Stop lying!
I never said gay people "owned" the song.

I am saying it's a classic gay anthem because it is. 

Trump using the song is in no way about being pro gay. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I don't remember about restaurants but I do remember the shower rooms.

 

Lots of soap bars on the floor?

Posted
7 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

I'm sure I recall an argument being made that comments on Donald Trump should be tempered with recognition of the dignity of the Office of President of The United States...

He's ruined that completely. 

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4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Stop lying!
I never said gay people "owned" the song.

I am saying it's a classic gay anthem because it is. 

Trump using the song is in no way about being pro gay. 

 

I didn't say he is Pro Gay, whatever that means.😄

 

I just said he isn't anti-gay. I doubt he gives it much thought. It seems the only people obsessed about it in 2025 are the gays themselves.  

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20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Doesn't matter what you think.

It was and still is a gay anthem.

But it has become much bigger than that and there is no way that Trump is presenting the song as a gay anthem. His movement is deeply ANTI LGBT civil rights. But ironically it still IS a gay anthem. 

I think this video prude washes this a bit.

I was young man young man when the song hit and what it meant was the YMCA was a good place to go locally for gym stuff or as a cheap hotel when travelling with the obvious feature of it being very very very cruisy.

 

 

https://youtu.be/g-uo8mWaA0A

 

Yeah, it wasn't written to be a gay anthem but become one pretty quickly, not least because of the iconic gay garb of that time and their playing all the gay clubs. 

 

Anyway, now it's the Republican anthem.

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I don't respect the Village People for selling out this way, as they have been on record as not supporting Trump and I don't believe they've changed their mind about that. But they're choosing to feed their greed. Not the crime of the century, but hardly admirable either. 

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2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I didn't say he is Pro Gay, whatever that means.😄

 

I just said he isn't anti-gay. I doubt he gives it much thought. It seems the only people obsessed about it in 2025 are the gays themselves.  

His movement is deeply anti LGBTQ civil rights.

What he thinks personally is irrelevant. 

It's what his regime does with policy.

I already posted evidence. 

Also the way that he DID scapegoat trans people to help him win the election was straight out of a Hitlerian playbook. 


Remember this:

 

First they came ... - Wikipedia

 

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Baht Simpson said:

Anyway, now it's the Republican anthem.

 

Absolutely. 

 

Like most things in the US, it's MAGA now. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I don't respect the Village People for selling out this way, as they have been on record as not supporting Trump and I don't believe they've changed their mind about that. But they're choosing to feed their greed. Not the crime of the century, but hardly admirable either. 

I see irony in it, good for the old band, take advantage of those Magas, and give them some glam jam in their lives. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

Yeah, it wasn't written to be a gay anthem but become one pretty quickly, not least because of the iconic gay garb of that time and their playing all the gay clubs. 

 

Anyway, now it's the Republican anthem.

Maga not republican.

I guess it can be both.

Which is weird but everything about the Trump maga movement is weird.

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