Trump’s Jan. 6 Pardons Slammed as a 'Grotesque Display' of Power by Schiff

[Mike_Hunt]

11 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

The old "ad hominem" attack. No one cares what you think perhaps worth considering likewise?

After the Biden family pardons, you can take a cup of shut the <deleted> up. 

[Mike_Hunt]

11 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

The old "two wrongs make it right" chestnut?

 

Just as I said.  You can make a cup of Shut the <deleted> up. 

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12 hours ago, dinsdale said:

I think it's a given to say that The Hill will run with this story as a negative move by Trump and Biden's 11th hour pardons as a positive move by Biden. Fact is the majority of the Jan 6 protesters were non-violent with huge prison terms handed out to them and it's these that will get pardons and Biden's 11th hour pardons are to protect the guilty from federal charges. If the people Biden gave pardons to are innocent and have nothing to answer for they don't need to accept the pardons. BTW a federal pardon does not protect the person from state law processes. 

It's funny how right wingers accuse liberals of waging lawfare but yet can express opinions like this: " If the people Biden gave pardons to are innocent and have nothing to answer for they don't need to accept the pardons." Trump has his own personal history of pursuing baseless civil lawsuits in order to beggar those defendants. Now, he can use the Federal govt to do the same via baseless criminal law prosecutions.

As for your comment about state law processes: That's only true if they've committed a crime in violation of state laws. Doesn't seem like Trump is accusing them of those kind of violations..

As for Trup['s pardons...

"President Donald Trump’s decision to pardon virtually every person charged in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol was a decision made at the last minute as inauguration approached — and one that surprised some of his supporters and aides. 

“He is who he is,” a person who worked on Trump’s transition team told NBC News. “Expectations are sometimes set as best as can be expected, and sometimes they change quickly.”"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-expansive-jan-6-pardons-last-minute-decision-rcna188628

 

[Jingthing]

23 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Who pardoned the cash for kids judge and the dude dude who killed two FBI agents?  

Deflection.

[Real Name Hidden]

Send this wacko loser back to prison

 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, bangadang said:

and, BTW, dude, WE DON'T CARE

Ain't that the truth! If anything Trump wears it as a symbol of the hypocrisy of the Dems, and their weaponised justice system. Hopefully real justice is coming for them.

[Patong2021]

9 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

Maybe the reporter should ask Biden why he pardoned murderers.

 

Using the actions of Biden to excuse Trump's wrong doing  exposes your failure to offer an intelligent response. You have spent the last 4 years  claiming  that everything Biden has done is wrong. Fine. Why then, rely on Biden now to justify a wrongful act?

 

Which murderers did President Biden pardon?

[mrwebb8825]

On 1/21/2025 at 2:03 PM, Social Media said:

Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), another member of the former House select committee investigating the January 6 attack, also weighed in, telling CNN that the Trump administration “has a lot of explaining to do” regarding the clemency extended to the Capitol riot defendants.  

These actions came just hours after outgoing President Joe Biden issued preemptive pardons for members and staff of the House January 6 select committee, including Schiff and Raskin, in the final moments of his presidency.

Too Funny. There needs to be a special place in historical chapters for special people like this.

[Neeranam]

The adage that comes to my mind is "Hypocrisy is the compliment vice pays to virtue".

 

There is no need for the Trump administration to pay that compliment anymore, they don't have to be hypocritical, they just say what they feel. They don't have to be Fascist, they can get anything they want and do anything they want already through Congress and Senate, and judges who were chosen Constitutionally in the Supreme court. 

 

Dems don't have the right to denigrate/cancel those who they disagree with, call them hillbillies, rednecks etc. 

 

 

[Prubangboy]

The recidivism rate for violent felons is about 66%. Already, TODAY, one of the pardonee's is already back in trouble.

 

It's going to be a slow drip for the next four years of these miscreants making Fattie look bad -not unlike the argument he uses against migrants.

 

But instead of "who let them in?", it's going a constant drumbeat of which personality disordered madman "let the out".

 

Sweet.

[Walker88]

22 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Ain't that the truth! If anything Trump wears it as a symbol of the hypocrisy of the Dems, and their weaponised justice system. Hopefully real justice is coming for them.

You really live in an alternate reality. Is that lifelong, or is it a function of advanced age and declining cognition and rationality?

 

The guy stole classified documents and put US nat sec at risk.

 

He called his goobers to DC for 6 Jan 2021 Tweeting "It'll be WILD!", and then used "fight" 37 times in his rant on the Mall (but "march peacefuly"l just once), and they beat 140 cops, <deleted> on the floor, and searched for the VP to hang him on the gallows they set up.

 

He was directly involved in the Fake Elector scheme.

 

He pressured the GA SecState to "just find me...11,780 votes".

 

Going after ACTUAL crime is not "weaponization", except in the fever swamps of MAGAstan and the brain addled fanboy cultists who try to live vicariously through 47.

 

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, Prubangboy said:

The recidivism rate for violent felons is about 66%. Already, TODAY, one of the pardonee's is already back in trouble.

 

It's going to be a slow drip for the next four years of these miscreants making Fattie look bad -not unlike the argument he uses against migrants.

 

But instead of "who let them in?", it's going a constant drumbeat of which personality disordered madman "let the out".

 

Sweet.

You know 47 is all about "America First".  We don't need any foreign criminals. That's a job for 'Merikans, dammit.

 

Since he closed the southern border, he probably and irrationally fears a crime gap (migrants, even illegal ones, are involved in far less crime than native born), so releasing those miscreant lowlife felons means good old domestic-driven crime.

[Prubangboy]

On 1/22/2025 at 11:02 PM, Real Name Hidden said:

Send this wacko loser back to prison

 

 

 

I love that guy. I love that the FBI effed with him and kept his stupid hat, "for evidence".

 

Why couldn't he just buy another $40 stupid hat? Google tells me he spent a lot of money to go to court.

 

He was reunited with his shaman spell-hat last August. Now available to entertain at children's parties, I presume.

[mogandave]

8 hours ago, Walker88 said:

You know 47 is all about "America First".  We don't need any foreign criminals. That's a job for 'Merikans, dammit.

 

Since he closed the southern border, he probably and irrationally fears a crime gap (migrants, even illegal ones, are involved in far less crime than native born), so releasing those miscreant lowlife felons means good old domestic-driven crime.

Every illegal immigrant that crosses the border commits a crime. 

 

The ONLY time a crime that has been committed is attributed to illegal immigrants is when an illegal immigrant is convicted. 

 

All crimes that are not investigated, go unsolved, or that are not prosecuted successfully, are  attributed to citizens. 

 

 

[impulse]

On 1/23/2025 at 7:42 AM, Patong2021 said:

Which murderers did President Biden pardon?

 

Leonard Peltier comes to mind immediately, without even going over the list of thousands of other pardons.

 

In fairness, it wasn't a pardon as much as a "get out of prison and go home" card.

 

[mogandave]

6 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Leonard Peltier comes to mind immediately, without even going over the list of thousands of other pardons.

 

In fairness, it wasn't a pardon as much as a "get out of prison and go home" card.

 

Yeah, but the were law enforcement, so they don’t count.

[Patong2021]

 

2 hours ago, impulse said:

Leonard Peltier comes to mind immediately, without even going over the list of thousands of other pardons.

In fairness, it wasn't a pardon as much as a "get out of prison and go home" card.

 

Peletier was not convicted of murder. Peletier was not pardoned.

 

His sentence was commuted to  home detention. He is 80 years old and in failing health. He has advanced diabetes with toe amputation and cellulitis, degenerative joint disease, hypertension, partial blindness  and physical impairment from a stroke. He is dying.  In effect. the US government has relieved itself of  of $60,000+ of annual custody expense to care for an invalid who does not present as a threat to anyone. Caring for a dying inmate is an expensive undertaking.   The man has served 47+ years, which is far longer than similar cases. 

 

The case against Peletier was questionable. The request for clemency was championed by the for Attorney for Iowa, who was responsible for defending the state on appeal, and arguing for the man's incarceration. That was his job as the federal State Attorney. Once out of his job and after review of the complete evidence file, some of which was withheld by the FBI, he ralized that the case had errors.

 

The 1977 trial is marked by prosecutorial misconduct, including the forced testimony of witnesses, the withholding of exculpatory evidence, falsified affidavits, and most tellingly, the hiding of a ballistics report that established that the bullets that killed the agents were not from Peltier’s gun.   Once these facts  became public, the charges against Peltier were changed to “aiding and abetting” whoever did kill the agents,  because he was present at the time of the shooting.

 

 

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

Yeah, but the were law enforcement, so they don’t count.

 

How do you manage to fit your foot in your mouth? You know how Trump has criticized the FBI for misconduct? Well, this is an example of the FBI not having been forthcoming with exculpatory evidence and of the US Justice Department not providing the exculpatory information that it had. It looks like you disagree with Trump too.

 

 

 

[mogandave]

7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

 

Peletier was not convicted of murder. Peletier was not pardoned.

 

His sentence was commuted to  home detention. He is 80 years old and in failing health. He has advanced diabetes with toe amputation and cellulitis, degenerative joint disease, hypertension, partial blindness  and physical impairment from a stroke. He is dying.  In effect. the US government has relieved itself of  of $60,000+ of annual custody expense to care for an invalid who does not present as a threat to anyone. Caring for a dying inmate is an expensive undertaking.   The man has served 47+ years, which is far longer than similar cases. 

 

The case against Peletier was questionable. The request for clemency was championed by the for Attorney for Iowa, who was responsible for defending the state on appeal, and arguing for the man's incarceration. That was his job as the federal State Attorney. Once out of his job and after review of the complete evidence file, some of which was withheld by the FBI, he ralized that the case had errors.

 

The 1977 trial is marked by prosecutorial misconduct, including the forced testimony of witnesses, the withholding of exculpatory evidence, falsified affidavits, and most tellingly, the hiding of a ballistics report that established that the bullets that killed the agents were not from Peltier’s gun.   Once these facts  became public, the charges against Peltier were changed to “aiding and abetting” whoever did kill the agents,  because he was present at the time of the shooting.

 

 

 

How do you manage to fit your foot in your mouth? You know how Trump has criticized the FBI for misconduct? Well, this is an example of the FBI not having been forthcoming with exculpatory evidence and of the US Justice Department not providing the exculpatory information that it had. It looks like you disagree with Trump too.

 

 

 

So?