18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Froze the aid for two weeks. The same aid that Obama refused to send for eight years, and the Biden cancelled the moment he got into office. 

 

While he was Obama's Vice President, Biden withheld l a billion dollars of congressionally mandate aid to Ukraine until the prosecutor investigating Hunter's business dealings was fired. 

 

 

Not 2 weeks but 2 months and by then Russia has taken a big chunk of Ukraine land. Trump refusal of aid because he wanted dirt to undermine Biden in the 2020 election. 

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Not 2 weeks but 2 months and by then Russia has taken a big chunk of Ukraine land. Trump refusal of aid because he wanted dirt to undermine Biden in the 2020 election. 

No, he froze the aid for two weeks. The same aid that Obama refused to send for eight years, and the Biden cancelled the moment he got into office. 

 

While he was Obama's Vice President, Biden withheld l a billion dollars of congressionally mandate aid to Ukraine until the prosecutor investigating Hunter's business dealings was fired. 

 

21 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No, he froze the aid for two weeks. The same aid that Obama refused to send for eight years, and the Biden cancelled the moment he got into office. 

 

While he was Obama's Vice President, Biden withheld l a billion dollars of congressionally mandate aid to Ukraine until the prosecutor investigating Hunter's business dealings was fired. 

 

Translation to fact the aid was withheld from Ukraine by VP Biden untle Ukraine addressed the corruption issue was addressed.President Biden then supported Ukrainian in ther efforts to expell the raping looting killers from their country,hope that helps but doubt it.

1 minute ago, Tug said:

Translation to fact the aid was withheld from Ukraine by VP Biden untle Ukraine addressed the corruption issue was addressed.President Biden then supported Ukrainian in ther efforts to expell the raping looting killers from their country,hope that helps but doubt it.

That's what I said. Grifter Biden withheld a billion dollars of congressionally mandate aid to Ukraine until the prosecutor investigating Hunter's business dealings was fired.

 

Biden canceled the weapons shipments to Ukraine the moment he got into office (the arms shipments Trump (trump?) initiated) and also cancelled the sanctions Trump put on Russia. 

 

Biden also effectively canceled the EastMed pipeline, the Keystone pipeline and canceled oil leases, all benefiting Russia. 

 

How about the Afghanistan debacle? Any reasonable person has to assume that level of incompetence had to embolden Putin. 

 

 

Cut military spending by half..... what an idea.... how great is that??? stop spendimg everyones tax money on military wastage....

Queue all the AN cold war era derangement members   'nooooooo, we want warrrrrrr' enemies are lurking around every  corner.

 

 

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

No, he froze the aid for two weeks. The same aid that Obama refused to send for eight years, and the Biden cancelled the moment he got into office. 

 

While he was Obama's Vice President, Biden withheld l a billion dollars of congressionally mandate aid to Ukraine until the prosecutor investigating Hunter's business dealings was fired. 

 

 

There has never been any investigation in Ukraine into Hunter's business dealings

 

It's a ridiculous lie! 

16 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

That's what I said. Grifter Biden withheld a billion dollars of congressionally mandate aid to Ukraine until the prosecutor investigating Hunter's business dealings was fired.

 

Biden canceled the weapons shipments to Ukraine the moment he got into office (the arms shipments Trump (trump?) initiated) and also cancelled the sanctions Trump put on Russia. 

 

Biden also effectively canceled the EastMed pipeline, the Keystone pipeline and canceled oil leases, all benefiting Russia. 

 

How about the Afghanistan debacle? Any reasonable person has to assume that level of incompetence had to embolden Putin. 

 

 

 

14 hours ago, candide said:

 

There has never been any investigation in Ukraine into Hunter's business dealings

 

It's a ridiculous lie! 

Crickets.....🤣

3 minutes ago, candide said:

 

Crickets.....🤣

Sorry, your right, I corrected it: 

 

That's what I said. Grifter Biden withheld a billion dollars of congressionally mandate aid to Ukraine until the prosecutor investigating the company Hunter Biden had business dealings with was fired.

 

Biden canceled the weapons shipments to Ukraine the moment he got into office (the arms shipments Trump (trump?) initiated) and also cancelled the sanctions Trump put on Russia. 

 

Biden also effectively canceled the EastMed pipeline, the Keystone pipeline and canceled oil leases, all benefiting Russia. 

 

How about the Afghanistan debacle? Any reasonable person has to assume that level of incompetence had to embolden Putin. 

 

We good now? 

29 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Sorry, your right, I corrected it: 

 

That's what I said. Grifter Biden withheld a billion dollars of congressionally mandate aid to Ukraine until the prosecutor investigating the company Hunter Biden had business dealings with was fired.

 

Biden canceled the weapons shipments to Ukraine the moment he got into office (the arms shipments Trump (trump?) initiated) and also cancelled the sanctions Trump put on Russia. 

 

Biden also effectively canceled the EastMed pipeline, the Keystone pipeline and canceled oil leases, all benefiting Russia. 

 

How about the Afghanistan debacle? Any reasonable person has to assume that level of incompetence had to embolden Putin. 

 

We good now? 

And the reason why Biden and the IMF withheld funds was that the prosecutor was not investigating the Burisma's owner case. 🤣

 

The EU also asked for firing Shokin. The prosecutors office had continuously covered him up, despite Obama's State Department officially complaining about it (before, and after Shokin was nominated! For example. 

 

Feb. 3, 2015 — Obama administration conveys harsh criticism of Ukraine Prosecutor General’s Office for its coverup of Zlochevskiy/Burisma

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ukraine-clearinghouse-2019.10.15.kent_transcript.pdf

Sept. 24, 2015 – U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt excoriates officials in the Prosecutor General’s Office for stymying anti-corruption investigations, including those involving Burisma

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Remarks-by-US-Ambassador-Geoffrey-Pyatt-at-the-Odesa-Financial-Forum-on-September-24-2015-ukraine.pdf

 

https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/

 

But don't let facts get in the way of a good MAGA story! 😆

4 minutes ago, candide said:

And the reason why Biden and the IMF withheld funds was that the prosecutor was not investigating the Burisma's owner case. The EU also asked for firing Shokin. The prosecutors office had continuously covered him up, despite Obama's State Department officially complaining about it (before, and after Shokin was nominated! For example. 

 

Feb. 3, 2015 — Obama administration conveys harsh criticism of Ukraine Prosecutor General’s Office for its coverup of Zlochevskiy/Burisma

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ukraine-clearinghouse-2019.10.15.kent_transcript.pdf

Sept. 24, 2015 – U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt excoriates officials in the Prosecutor General’s Office for stymying anti-corruption investigations, including those involving Burisma

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Remarks-by-US-Ambassador-Geoffrey-Pyatt-at-the-Odesa-Financial-Forum-on-September-24-2015-ukraine.pdf

 

https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/

 

But don't let facts get in the way of a good MAGA story! 😆

 

 

So, links to a silly leftist website, right. 

 

JustSecurity.org? Was AlterNet not available?

 

What a hoot. 

7 minutes ago, candide said:

And the reason why Biden and the IMF withheld funds was that the prosecutor was not investigating the Burisma's owner case. The EU also asked for firing Shokin. The prosecutors office had continuously covered him up, despite Obama's State Department officially complaining about it (before, and after Shokin was nominated! For example. 

 

Feb. 3, 2015 — Obama administration conveys harsh criticism of Ukraine Prosecutor General’s Office for its coverup of Zlochevskiy/Burisma

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ukraine-clearinghouse-2019.10.15.kent_transcript.pdf

Sept. 24, 2015 – U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt excoriates officials in the Prosecutor General’s Office for stymying anti-corruption investigations, including those involving Burisma

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Remarks-by-US-Ambassador-Geoffrey-Pyatt-at-the-Odesa-Financial-Forum-on-September-24-2015-ukraine.pdf

 

https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/

 

But don't let facts get in the way of a good MAGA story! 😆

I love it how you go back in time to when all the fake news narratives and anti Trump psyops were in full swing. Giuliani is a hero, he has been fully vindicated after the corruption laptop was verified. He did not make up the laptop.

 

"President Trump will not allow anyone to turn Uncle Sam into Uncle Sucker." *

 

*Unless 'anyone' is a US Defense contractor, where massive cost overruns and wasted weapons systems are a major component of the $850 billion defense budget.

 

For example, Pete got $50,000 to repaint his official residence. Unless his residence is as big as Versailles, it sure looks like there's a lot of fraud, waste and abuse there. Where's Presiudent musk and his brigade of 19-year old cost cutters when you need them?

 

On the other hand, NATO members not as familiar with massive cost overruns, could meet the PINO's target of 'fair share' by having their military order a few billion dollars of paint and repaint every structure and vehicle they've got. Then they'd meet the % of GDP target. It isn't as if NATO really needs any more tanks, missiles or nukes.

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

 

So, links to a silly leftist website, right. 

 

JustSecurity.org? Was AlterNet not available?

 

What a hoot. 

Ridiculous deflection! 🤣

 

There's a link to the official statements of State Department officials.

 

Waiting for some evidence from you.. FD-1023 anyone? 🙂

13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I love it how you go back in time to when all the fake news narratives and anti Trump psyops were in full swing. Giuliani is a hero, he has been fully vindicated after the corruption laptop was verified. He did not make up the laptop.

 

Blah blah! 😆

Just now, candide said:

Ridiculous deflection! 🤣

 

There's a link to the official statements of State Department officials.

Biden/Obama (redundant) State Department officials no doubt. 

 

The same ones that pushed the Russian collusion hoax and rounded up the 51 liars that said Hunter's laptop had all the earmarks of Russian disinformation? 

 

 

On 2/15/2025 at 2:12 AM, Yellowtail said:

The louder the lefties howl, the better things are going. 

 

Liston how they howl when they are expected to pay their own way. 

Not sure what that means, and I guarantee you don't know.

 

If you mean domestic leftists, well, they carry the US. Counties Biden won, though minimal in number, produce 62% of total US GDP. The slackers on the right, despite being a majority, only account for 38% of total US GDP. MAGA and slacker are synonymous.

 

Perhaps it's time MAGAs put their nose to the grindstone and accomplished something, besides worshiping the fat man and living off SSDI and SNAP.

 

If you mean NATO allies, do you expect them to engage in the same kind of cost overruns the US welcomes among its members of the military industrial complex? You champion wild inefficiency? Waste, fraud and abuse is your deity?

 

Perhaps you are so knowledgeable you know exactly what NATO lacks that European member states could contribute. I guarantee the PINO doesn't know. Heck, he didn't even know what the nuclear triad was. So tell us, expert, how many more tanks does NATO need? Missiles? Radar? Rifles and handguns? Armored personnel vehicles?

 

Since you're so quick to spout the PINO's drivel about 'pay their own way', you must have a detailed breakdown of where NATO members come up short, right?

 

LOL. MAGAs !!!!!!

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Biden/Obama (redundant) State Department officials no doubt. 

 

The same ones that pushed the Russian collusion hoax and rounded up the 51 liars that said Hunter's laptop had all the earmarks of Russian disinformation? 

 

 

More lame deflection from you! 🤣

 

I have shown proof that the U.S. State department was complaining that Burisma was  not investigating Burisma. it complained about it before Shokin was nominated, and after Shokin was nominated (and before he was fired) That's fact! The IMF and the EU also wanted Shokin's head. That's fact!

 

Deflect, deflect, deflect! 😆

35 minutes ago, candide said:

More lame deflection from you! 🤣

 

I have shown proof that the U.S. State department was complaining that Burisma was  not investigating Burisma. it complained about it before Shokin was nominated, and after Shokin was nominated (and before he was fired) That's fact! The IMF and the EU also wanted Shokin's head. That's fact!

 

Deflect, deflect, deflect! 😆

You have shown no such proof. 

 

 Lie!,  Lie!, Lie! 😆

39 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Not sure what that means, and I guarantee you don't know.

 

If you mean domestic leftists, well, they carry the US. Counties Biden won, though minimal in number, produce 62% of total US GDP. The slackers on the right, despite being a majority, only account for 38% of total US GDP. MAGA and slacker are synonymous.

 

Perhaps it's time MAGAs put their nose to the grindstone and accomplished something, besides worshiping the fat man and living off SSDI and SNAP.

 

If you mean NATO allies, do you expect them to engage in the same kind of cost overruns the US welcomes among its members of the military industrial complex? You champion wild inefficiency? Waste, fraud and abuse is your deity?

 

Perhaps you are so knowledgeable you know exactly what NATO lacks that European member states could contribute. I guarantee the PINO doesn't know. Heck, he didn't even know what the nuclear triad was. So tell us, expert, how many more tanks does NATO need? Missiles? Radar? Rifles and handguns? Armored personnel vehicles?

 

Since you're so quick to spout the PINO's drivel about 'pay their own way', you must have a detailed breakdown of where NATO members come up short, right?

 

LOL. MAGAs !!!!!!

More lame deflection from you! 🤣

 

Deflect, deflect, deflect! 😆

25 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You have shown no such proof. 

 

 Lie!,  Lie!, Lie! 😆

I did!

Lie, Lie, Lie! 🤣

 

Feb. 3, 2015 — Obama administration conveys harsh criticism of Ukraine Prosecutor General’s Office for its coverup of Zlochevskiy/Burisma

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ukraine-clearinghouse-2019.10.15.kent_transcript.pdf

Sept. 24, 2015 – U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt excoriates officials in the Prosecutor General’s Office for stymying anti-corruption investigations, including those involving Burisma

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Remarks-by-US-Ambassador-Geoffrey-Pyatt-at-the-Odesa-Financial-Forum-on-September-24-2015-ukraine.pdf

 

Still waiting for your evidence to back up your lame claims! I'm not holding my breath! 🤣

12 minutes ago, candide said:

I did!

Lie, Lie, Lie! 🤣

 

Feb. 3, 2015 — Obama administration conveys harsh criticism of Ukraine Prosecutor General’s Office for its coverup of Zlochevskiy/Burisma

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ukraine-clearinghouse-2019.10.15.kent_transcript.pdf

Sept. 24, 2015 – U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt excoriates officials in the Prosecutor General’s Office for stymying anti-corruption investigations, including those involving Burisma

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Remarks-by-US-Ambassador-Geoffrey-Pyatt-at-the-Odesa-Financial-Forum-on-September-24-2015-ukraine.pdf

 

Still waiting for your evidence to back up your lame claims! I'm not holding my breath! 🤣

So, links to a silly leftist website, right. 

 

JustSecurity.org? Was AlterNet not available?

 

What a hoot. 

21 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So, links to a silly leftist website, right. 

 

JustSecurity.org? Was AlterNet not available?

 

What a hoot. 

The links are to the statements made.

 

Also avaible by other sources. There's even a video of this one!! 🤣

 

https://archive.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/failure-to-fight-corruption-threatens-everything-that-government-is-doing-399825.html

 

And no, Justsecurity is not left wing and is high for factual reporting. You are lying again! 🤣

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/just-security/

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/just-security-media-bias

 

 

Still waiting for your to post evidence of your ridiculous claims! 🙂

19 minutes ago, candide said:

The links are to the statements made.

 

Also avaible by other sources. There's even a video of this one!! 🤣

 

https://archive.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/failure-to-fight-corruption-threatens-everything-that-government-is-doing-399825.html

 

And no, Justsecurity is not left wing and is high for factual reporting. You are lying again! 🤣

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/just-security/

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/just-security-media-bias

 

 

Still waiting for your to post evidence of your ridiculous claims! 🙂

Justsecurity is left wing and is low for factual reporting. You are lying again! 🤣

14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Justsecurity is left wing and is low for factual reporting. You are lying again! 🤣

 

You are a lying troll! 🤣

 

I posted evidence. You posted nothing to support your ridiculous claims!

4 minutes ago, candide said:

You are a lying troll! 🤣

 

I posted evidence. You posted nothing to support your ridiculous claims!

No you are a lying troll! 🤣

 

You posted no evidence. You posted nothing to support your ridiculous claims!

21 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No you are a lying troll! 🤣

 

You posted no evidence. You posted nothing to support your ridiculous claims!

Thank you for confirming you are a troll! 🤣

54 minutes ago, candide said:

Thank you for confirming you are a troll! 🤣

We (I think you were included) went round and round about this years ago and I put a lot of effort into supporting my position. Your side had the same weak nonsense you're trying to bring now. 

 

Whatever 

 

13 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

We (I think you were included) went round and round about this years ago and I put a lot of effort into supporting my position. Your side had the same weak nonsense you're trying to bring now. 

 

Whatever 

 

It's you posting baseless nonsense.

 

Even the GOP Senate committee found nothing

 

Whatever

On 2/14/2025 at 8:35 PM, cjinchiangrai said:

No, redneck meth heads sucking up govt assistance on the blue states dime.

Small correction to your selective understanding:

In fact, 40 states have a balance of payment ratio higher than 1.00. Far from a dependency caused by state political leaning, it is typical for states to receive more in federal funds than they collect in federal taxes — an anomaly made possible only by rampant federal deficit spending.

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/502321-no-blue-states-do-not-bailout-red-states/  

 

Just to be clear:

https://abcnews.go.com/Elections/2024-us-presidential-election-results-live-map/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-13/trump-tells-europe-to-buy-american-weapons-to-keep-nato-strong?utm_content=business&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&leadSource=uverify wall

 

US tells NATO members to spend more on defence and they must buy American.

 

Fat chance. The US already waves around a remote kill switch for Trident and F35.

 

Of course, Euopean defence companies can design towards more interperability (which already exists); US companies just need to send over the blueprints. Years of trust destroyed by Cadet Trumpf and Cpl Hamel.