Zelensky - what possessed you?

[Yagoda]

12 minutes ago, JAG said:

"Zelensky - what possessed you?"

 

He knows that Trump intends to carve up Ukraine for his mate Putin. The rump state which will be left will be run by someone put in place by Putin, as the necessary precursor to his next moves, on the three Baltic States, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia.

 

Knowing that he was not prepared to be browbeaten by Trump or his sidekick, Vance, in what was obviously a planned and rehearsed ambush.

We will carve it up for us, we got suckered for 350 billion dollars. Putin cant beat a real army and he better not screw around with our bulldozers.

 

Meanwhile, You folks better get a real army  fast. Or some energy development

 

FAFO. The stealing is over!!!!!!!

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

Came to Europe lecturing about free speech, when his own boss has sued plenty of people for saying things about him, eg Bill Maher (go read up on it) - where was the free speech then ? 

You mean the suit that Trump withdrew?   There's a big difference between free speech and slander, even so.

[Lacessit]

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You sound really smart. You must be a high IQ critically thinking leftist schoolteacher, yes? 

Your inferiority complex is showing.

 

Did you make it out of primary school? Your insults are at that level.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, mania said:

Perhaps you should look

NATO has missiles stationed in Poland, Romania, Spain, and Turkey. The missiles are part of NATO's Ballistic Missile Defence (BMD) system, which is designed to protect NATO's forces, territory, and populations from ballistic missiles

 

Even now the deal most likely to be put forth is Russia returns lands captured &  leaves if Ukraine does not join NATO

 

That aside quote from John Quincy Adams was 100% right & applicable here

 

Not likely but probably the best case possible.

 

The BMD system is designed for defence, only. 

[jayboy]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Well thanks for admitting that intolerance of free speech is a problem in Europe.

 

Intolerance on US campuses are the result of Socialism, europes contribution to world misery.

 

I'm guessing from this farrago of muddled nonsense that you have not troubled any dreaming spires.

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Your inferiority complex is showing.

 

Did you make it out of primary school? Your insults are at that level.

You sound really smart. You must be a high IQ critically thinking leftist chemist, yes? 

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

Saying that Zalensky should have stayed quiet - as you cannot reason with idiots like this. 

His name is Zelensky but you are correct the idiot Zelensky should have buttoned it.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

The de-evolution of the US---from a nation that once at least pretended to have values and ideals, and often behaved as if it did---into this self-serving, transactional, cold, immoral coward is astonishing. Some of us have gone into harm's way for what that nation used to be. Today, it is a nation totally unworthy of any sacrifice. When the US sides with the likes of dictator-run Russia, commie China, and the bizarre hellhole that is the DPRK, the USA that once knocked on the door of greatness has become a piece of sh!t.

 

At the very least it is time for productive States to secede, and leave MAGAstan to wallow in the rancid cesspool of its own design. MAGAstan can have its Coward King, a fat man jealous of a golfer's junk, a failure who barely survived a massive inheritance and loans co-signed by daddy until a fantasy creator named Mark Burnett manufactured something good enough to fool the moronic and forlorn masses, which is to say the MAGAs.

 

I feel the need to apologize to friends and colleagues I lost serving what once was. They gave their lives for nothing, and their land morphed into something despicable, something bleak and ugly, something that is against every ideal and value for which they fought.

 

How weak the country must have been that it could be destroyed by someone so banal, so mediocre, so without any character or integrity, so lacking in any decent human quality, a mendacious, juvenile, crybaby, vindictive, serial philandering, Narcissistic, misogynist, racist pile of subhuman filth. And those who champion him are no better; they are the morons predicted a hundred years ago by H. L. Mencken.

 

 

 

Aw come on! Biden wasn't that bad.

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

His name is Zelensky but you are correct the idiot Zelensky should have buttoned it.

Dont argue with Daddy.

[Yellowtail]

Just now, nauseus said:

 

Aw come on! Biden wasn't that bad.

I guess Zelenski thought he was going to talk to Trump the way he talked to Biden and Harris. 

 

 

[Harrisfan]

31 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

Trump and make up man showed their true colours today. Both scumbags of the highest order. Would not expect any better of the orange grifter as it has the brain of an ant ,but make up man  i thought may have  been more knowledagable and calmer.

Vance does not use make up and is a really smart guy. Doing a great job.

[riclag]

7 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Doesn’t matter what he said or if he wound them up, the response was an utter embarrassment for the US regime. That Vance is a gobshiite. Boys playing a man’s game.

Her counter part Rubio sat with daggers in his eyes staring over at the The leader of Ukraine.

What happened last week in Europe ?

Looks like a coordinated effort in back room shenanigans . 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c04nw1pg3k2o

 

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Tulsi Gabbard’s history with Russia is even more concerning than you think | The Independent

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tulsi-gabbard-russian-connection-dni-trump-syria-b2692244.html

 

The Curious Case of Tulsi Gabbard: Is She a Russian Asset or a Dupe?

www.thebulwark.com/p/tulsi-gabbard-russian-asset-or-dupe

 

I don't think Tulsi Gabbard is a cause for concern but, by the trash that you post, I think you are.

[Harrisfan]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It clearly doesn’t exist in Trump’s White House.

Why not? Zelensky walked in wearing gym clothes insulted the top two then was allowed to keep speaking.

 

You guys always put a spin on things.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Clueless

 

I imagine you are.

[Tidal wave]

34 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

His name is Zelensky but you are correct the idiot Zelensky should have buttoned it.

Talking of idiots and here you are.

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Tulsi Gabbard’s history with Russia is even more concerning than you think | The Independent

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tulsi-gabbard-russian-connection-dni-trump-syria-b2692244.html

 

The Curious Case of Tulsi Gabbard: Is She a Russian Asset or a Dupe?

www.thebulwark.com/p/tulsi-gabbard-russian-asset-or-dupe

Is that why Tulsu was a rising start in the Democrat party until she supported Bernie over Hillary?

 

Then she goes from Vice Chair of the Democratic National Committee to being on the terrorist watch list. 

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, Tidal wave said:

Talking of idiots and here you are.

You sound really smart. You must be a high IQ critically thinking leftist, yes? 

[captain_shane]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Straw man deflection.

Pick a side.

Never mind.

We all know which side you've picked.

I think you should prove your Ukrainian support and join their forces. They could use you on the front lines. I think everyone on here who wants the conflict to continue should immediately buy a plane ticket and fight for Zelensky. Your lifespan is estimated to be 4 hours long once you hit the front lines, but it's ok, you'll be remembered as a war hero. As Big Z said: TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN!

[Ben Zioner]

A bit like a couple of two bit thugs bullying the good kid of the class..

 

Or maybe just typical modern day american arrogance.

 

EU start levying war taxes.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, captain_shane said:

I think you should prove your Ukrainian support and join their forces. They could use you on the front lines. I think everyone on here who wants the conflict to continue should immediately buy a plane ticket and fight for Zelensky. Your lifespan is estimated to be 4 hours long once you hit the front lines, but it's ok, you'll be remembered as a war hero. As Big Z said: TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN!

The left only wants to throw other people's money at Ukraine, they do not really want to help. 

 

Obama loved Russia and Putin. Remember the '80s calling and wanting their foreign policy back?

Remember Obama caught on a hot mike begging Putin for space until after the election in exchange for canceling missile defense?

Remember the "Russian Reset"?

Remember Obama's refusal to sell defensive weapons to Ukraine? 

 

Now remember Trump sanctioning Russia? 

Remember Trump killing 200 Wagner Group mercenaries in Syria? 

Remember Trump selling arms to Ukraine? 

 

Now remember Biden cancelling sanctions on Russia, including those imposed by Trump? 

Remember Biden halting arms sales to Ukraine? 

Remember Biden's surrender debacle in Afghanistan?

Remember Biden saying that the US would not respond to Russia invading Ukraine, if it were only a minor invasion? 

 

The left cared nothing about Ukraine until they started pretending Trump was a Russian asset. 

 

[LosLobo]

Trump’s White House debacle was a staged con job, designed not to solve the Ukraine war but to justify abandoning it. He and J.D. Vance ran a classic bait-and-switch—pretend to push for peace, ensure nothing productive happens, then blame Zelenskyy when they move to cut off aid.
 

Trump had no leverage over Putin, no real plan, and no intention of brokering a deal.

The goal was always to set up an excuse to walk away while making it look like Ukraine was the problem. Now, when Congress debates aid, Trump’s allies will cry, “See? Ukraine won’t negotiate!”—as if Putin was ever going to agree to peace in the first place. And all the while, Trump continues to show fealty to Putin, echoing Kremlin talking points and making sure U.S. policy serves Russia’s interests.
 

Same old playbook: create a mess, blame someone else, and claim he alone could’ve fixed it.
 

Like when he cozied up to Kim Jong-un, pretending he’d solved the North Korea problem while they kept building nukes. Or when he scrapped the Iran deal, promised a better one, and left Iran free to restart its nuclear program. Or when he cut a weak deal with the Taliban, freed 5,000 prisoners, then blamed Biden when Afghanistan collapsed. Or when he bragged that the Abraham Accords—between countries never at war—deserved a Nobel Peace Prize while ignoring the tensions he fueled between Israel and Palestine that later erupted into war.

Different crisis, same grift.
 

[steven100]

9 hours ago, theblether said:

I'll give Zelensky the benefit of the doubt up until he made the "Nice ocean" comment. That was ridiculous and I'm not shocked that Trump lost his temper. 

 

"Don't you tell us how we will feel," said Trump. And it all went wrong from there. What possessed you, Zelensky. What possessed you? 

 

Watch it all but it gets spicy around half way through 

 

 

 

 

 

And what possessed you to start such a controversial topic   ?      idiot .......

 

Just reading some comments from around the globe .........

 

 

 

[steven100]

9 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Trump’s White House debacle was a staged con job, designed not to solve the Ukraine war but to justify abandoning it. He and J.D. Vance ran a classic bait-and-switch—pretend to push for peace, ensure nothing productive happens, then blame Zelenskyy when they move to cut off aid.
 

Trump had no leverage over Putin, no real plan, and no intention of brokering a deal.

The goal was always to set up an excuse to walk away while making it look like Ukraine was the problem. Now, when Congress debates aid, Trump’s allies will cry, “See? Ukraine won’t negotiate!”—as if Putin was ever going to agree to peace in the first place. And all the while, Trump continues to show fealty to Putin, echoing Kremlin talking points and making sure U.S. policy serves Russia’s interests.
 

Same old playbook: create a mess, blame someone else, and claim he alone could’ve fixed it.
 

Like when he cozied up to Kim Jong-un, pretending he’d solved the North Korea problem while they kept building nukes. Or when he scrapped the Iran deal, promised a better one, and left Iran free to restart its nuclear program. Or when he cut a weak deal with the Taliban, freed 5,000 prisoners, then blamed Biden when Afghanistan collapsed. Or when he bragged that the Abraham Accords—between countries never at war—deserved a Nobel Peace Prize while ignoring the tensions he fueled between Israel and Palestine that later erupted into war.

Different crisis, same grift.
 

This is absolutely correct .....  Trump is a fake and a show pony.    He Lies,   he say's he did this & that but in actual fact he did nothing   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[steven100]

Rep. Mikie Sherrill (Democrat, District 11) posted on X: "Donald Trump is treating our allies as enemies and our enemies as allies. To call this spectacle an absolute disgrace is an understatement. One thing is clear: Russian Dictator Vladimir Putin has no better friend than this White House. Abandoning Ukraine emboldens Putin and ultimately makes the U.S. weaker and less safe."

Rep. Rob Menendez (Democrat, District 8) posted on Facebook: "This is a disgrace. How can America be a world leader when the President and VP act like petulant children? We can and must do better. We will continue to stand with Zelenskyy and the people of Ukraine."

Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (Democrat, District 12) posted on X: "Donald Trump is an international embarrassment. Putin invaded Ukraine. Putin can end the war TODAY if he withdraws his troops. Trump is too cowardly to stand up to US adversaries and then turns around and bullies US allies. He's a coward, he's weak, and he's unfit to lead."

Rep. LaMonica McIver (Democrat, District 10) posted on X: "This is not diplomacy. This is closer to a tantrum. Trump and Vance berating our allies like @ZelenskyyUa while cozying up to dictators like Putin is a disgrace but not a surprise."

Rep. Herb Conaway (Democrat, District 3) posted on X: "Trump and Vance are acting like Putin’s lapdogs, loudly and obnoxiously barking nonsense at Zelenskyy. Republicans can’t remain silent on this — this is shameful."

Rep. Frank Pallone (Democrat, District 6) posted on X: "This is the most pathetic and cringeworthy display of diplomacy from a U.S. president. Trump would rather take cheap shots at a key ally than cross Putin. Will Congressional Republicans ever have the spine to push back against his pro-Russia pandering?"

[Yellowtail]

Just now, steven100 said:

Rep. Mikie Sherrill (Democrat, District 11) posted on X: "Donald Trump is treating our allies as enemies and our enemies as allies. To call this spectacle an absolute disgrace is an understatement. One thing is clear: Russian Dictator Vladimir Putin has no better friend than this White House. Abandoning Ukraine emboldens Putin and ultimately makes the U.S. weaker and less safe."

Rep. Rob Menendez (Democrat, District 8) posted on Facebook: "This is a disgrace. How can America be a world leader when the President and VP act like petulant children? We can and must do better. We will continue to stand with Zelenskyy and the people of Ukraine."

Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (Democrat, District 12) posted on X: "Donald Trump is an international embarrassment. Putin invaded Ukraine. Putin can end the war TODAY if he withdraws his troops. Trump is too cowardly to stand up to US adversaries and then turns around and bullies US allies. He's a coward, he's weak, and he's unfit to lead."

Rep. LaMonica McIver (Democrat, District 10) posted on X: "This is not diplomacy. This is closer to a tantrum. Trump and Vance berating our allies like @ZelenskyyUa while cozying up to dictators like Putin is a disgrace but not a surprise."

Rep. Herb Conaway (Democrat, District 3) posted on X: "Trump and Vance are acting like Putin’s lapdogs, loudly and obnoxiously barking nonsense at Zelenskyy. Republicans can’t remain silent on this — this is shameful."

Rep. Frank Pallone (Democrat, District 6) posted on X: "This is the most pathetic and cringeworthy display of diplomacy from a U.S. president. Trump would rather take cheap shots at a key ally than cross Putin. Will Congressional Republicans ever have the spine to push back against his pro-Russia pandering?"

Democrats hate Trump, shocking. 

 

Again: Obama loved Russia and Putin. Remember the '80s calling and wanting their foreign policy back?

Remember Obama caught on a hot mike begging Putin for space until after the election in exchange for canceling missile defense?

Remember the "Russian Reset"?

Remember Obama's refusal to sell defensive weapons to Ukraine? 

 

Now remember Trump sanctioning Russia? 

Remember Trump killing 200 Wagner Group mercenaries in Syria? 

Remember Trump selling arms to Ukraine? 

 

Now remember Biden cancelling sanctions on Russia, including those imposed by Trump? 

Remember Biden halting arms sales to Ukraine? 

Remember Biden's surrender debacle in Afghanistan?

Remember Biden saying that the US would not respond to Russia invading Ukraine, if it were only a minor invasion? 

 

The left cared nothing about Ukraine until they started pretending Trump was a Russian asset. 

[Harrisfan]

24 minutes ago, steven100 said:

 

And what possessed you to start such a controversial topic   ?      idiot .......

 

Just reading some comments from around the globe .........

 

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, steven100 said:

This is absolutely correct .....  Trump is a fake and a show pony.    He Lies,   he say's he did this & that but in actual fact he did nothing   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just insults

[JAG]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Meanwhile, You folks better get a real army  fast.

You mean like the one which "evacuated" from Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan?

 

Tell me, is it standard operating procedure that all US overseas deployments take with them a recording (these days it is an MP3 I suppose) of Bing Crosby "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas"?

[Yellowtail]

20 minutes ago, steven100 said:

This is absolutely correct .....  Trump is a fake and a show pony.    He Lies,   he say's he did this & that but in actual fact he did nothing   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another substantive post from a typical high IQ, critically thinking leftist. 

 

Notice all the leftists in the news and in Congress all tweeting the same silly leftist talking points about how terrible Trump is, and not one suggestion on how to resolve anything.

 

If only Harris had been elected, the killing could have continued indefinity. 

 

[steven100]

20 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Another substantive post from a typical high IQ, critically thinking leftist. 

 

Notice all the leftists in the news and in Congress all tweeting the same silly leftist talking points about how terrible Trump is, and not one suggestion on how to resolve anything.

 

If only Harris had been elected, the killing could have continued indefinity. 

 

I am not leftist or right wing or whatever,  I just evaluate a common sense approach,   and everything tells me this Trump & Vance was a set up to get at Zelensky.  

 

They are morons for thinking the world would fall for it.