Transitioning mice belonging to an out of power political party are currently donning their pink pantsuits, scribbling on  their paddles, and planning a cheese boycott. 

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The article above is wrong.

What Trump said actually WAS a lie. Which should surprise noboby as he lies constantly even after being corrected. That's his thing. 

He said the money was spent for the purpose of making mice transgender.

That is not true.

 

Trump's 'Transgender' Mice Experiments Were Cancer and Asthma Research

www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-transgender-mice-medical-research-1235289439/

Trump Decried Millions Spent ‘Making Mice Transgender.’ It Was Cancer and Asthma Research

The president's address to Congress included a line designed to go viral in the right-wing misinformation machine

So why did CNN make a retraction ?

The Dogebag Dotards eliminated a section of Social Security that had the word "transformation" in its title. This department worked on agency-wide initiatives like removing requirements for wet signatures on SSA forms and launching digital signatures and electronic document uploads at the agency. This hurts innocent families who now can't pay their bills.

 

But hey, the waffling policies on tariffs are making prices skyrocket and creating an unstable economy, former allies around the globe are realizing they can no longer trust Murikkka and are striking back (example: Canada has pulled all US-made alcohol off its shelves, a $1 Billion/year industry), and on and on and on and . . .

 

Yes, I AM sick of all this "winning."

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Any poster that starts with childish laughter only gets my attention once.

 

The lack of apostrophes is a pretty good indicator of the education level attained.

 

So is the misspelling of words such as truth and spruiking.

I happen to agree with that sad emoji you received with your condescending  reply. Most understand that not everyone on here is educated from a western country or has English as their primary language. Oh and feel free to put me on your "only gets my attention once" list. Actually hope I was already on it so you need not reply. Have a nice day.

44 minutes ago, connda said:

Many of us have been saying this since 2020: The main-stream media lies.  But we are told by the gate-keepers of social media that outlets like CNN are "Trusted News Sources." 

Over the next four years I expect we are going to see just how far down the rabbit-hole the trope that the MSM are "The only purveyors of 'trusted news'."  And then I expect we will also see who the "Media Fact Checkers" are funded by and associated with in order to perpetuate the lies.

What a scam.

IIRC Fox News shelled out $767 million to Dominion, just to avoid being dragged into court.

 

Wake me up when the same thing happens to MSM.

Is this article dated april 1st ?

7 minutes ago, 300sd said:

I happen to agree with that sad emoji you received with your condescending  reply. Most understand that not everyone on here is educated from a western country or has English as their primary language. Oh and feel free to put me on your "only gets my attention once" list. Actually hope I was already on it so you need not reply. Have a nice day.

AFAIK the poster is American, a good indication of the levels to which US education has sunk.  I guess some people are unwilling to embrace the student loans system.

 

There are free grammar and syntax checkers on the internet.

 

No, you were not on my list. I will rectify that for you.

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Any poster that starts with childish laughter only gets my attention once.

 

The lack of apostrophes is a pretty good indicator of the education level attained.

 

So is the misspelling of words such as truth and spruiking.

Wow, what a lovely example of irrelevant, righteous pomp masquerading as superior intellect.

So typical of many on the left these days - simple minded, may even have a degree or two, which is not that difficult - yet snooty, drawn towards symbolism and idealism rather than contextual analysis and basic smarts.

48 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IIRC Fox News shelled out $767 million to Dominion, just to avoid being dragged into court.

 

And then a few months later, someone in a Georgia court proved that Fox were basically right.  The machines can be hacked.  Fairly easily.

 

But that's the nature of settling before trial.  I'm sure they agreed to not ask for their money back.

 

16 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

And then a few months later, someone in a Georgia court proved that Fox were basically right.  The machines can be hacked.  Fairly easily.

 

But that's the nature of settling before trial.  I'm sure they agreed to not ask for their money back.

 

No no no. Every machine or computer in the world can misfunction or error whether accidentally or intentionally. Other than those vote tabulators made by that company. They are perfect in every way. That's the narrative.

 

Best thing to bring lefties back to earth over this would be to let Alex Jones and Mike Lindell make vote tabulators for 2028 election and let's see how long the left's perfect machine narrative takes to implode.

4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Best thing to bring lefties back to earth over this would be to let Alex Jones and Mike Lindell make vote tabulators for 2028 election and let's see how long the left's perfect machine narrative takes to implode.

 

It's already imploding after Trump won 2024.  Now some high profile Dems are claiming Musk rigged the machines.  The absolutely invulnerable machines that cannot possibly connect to the interwebs.

 

 

20 hours ago, impulse said:

 

And then a few months later, someone in a Georgia court proved that Fox were basically right.  The machines can be hacked.  Fairly easily.

 

But that's the nature of settling before trial.  I'm sure they agreed to not ask for their money back.

 

Post the link, please. I am not prepared to rely on an assertion....

On 3/8/2025 at 10:37 AM, Lacessit said:

Any poster that starts with childish laughter only gets my attention once.

 

The lack of apostrophes is a pretty good indicator of the education level attained.

 

So is the misspelling of words such as truth and spruiking.

HAHAHA, how can I not laugh at the idiotic replies of the twisted dems supporters in here, you attack the poster not the truth they have written, miss spelling, more like fat fingers, mate you have shown what I did write was spot on. Just read over my post again, all appostrophies are there, maybe you need to learn to read or get a pair of glasses, you really must be losing it, talk about a pathetic answer to my post. I know my education levels too, obviously a lot higher than yours after reading your reply,  just goes to show how demented & uneducated democrat voters really are.

 

3 hours ago, seajae said:

HAHAHA, how can I not laugh at the idiotic replies of the twisted dems supporters in here, you attack the poster not the truth they have written, miss spelling, more like fat fingers, mate you have shown what I did write was spot on. Just read over my post again, all appostrophies are there, maybe you need to learn to read or get a pair of glasses, you really must be losing it, talk about a pathetic answer to my post. I know my education levels too, obviously a lot higher than yours after reading your reply,  just goes to show how demented & uneducated democrat voters really are.

 

Thank you for proving my point , by totally misspelling the word apostrophe. You obviously don't know the difference between an apostrophe and a comma either. Bye now.

On 3/8/2025 at 2:12 PM, Cory1848 said:

Exactly. Trump read the word "transgenic" and thought "transgender," without realizing they are two entirely different words with different meanings. (Or somebody patiently explained it to him, and he lied about it anyway, as you say.) What's depressing, though, is the number of people who will readily fall for this garbage.

It's amusing seeing the verbal gymnastics the Trump haters will go to to claim he is a liar even when CNN admits they go it wrong.

IMO the best punishment for them is another 4 years of Trump in their face every day.

 

Enjoy.

On 3/8/2025 at 6:14 PM, Thingamabob said:

So why did CNN make a retraction ?

Don't hold your breath.

Trump's claim: $8m was spent on "making mice transgender".

 

Firstly, you cannot make mice or any other animal transgender. A transgender person by definition is someone who believes that their gender identity is different to their biological sex assigned at birth. Animals are incapable of this assertion so they can never be transgender. Scientists know this.

 

The $8m was in National Institutes of Health grants, not spending, as broken down below.

 

$455,000 for a study on hormone therapy and HIV vaccine. 
$2.5 million to examine the reproductive consequences of steroid hormone administration.
$299,940 for research into the impact of testosterone therapy for breast cancer.
$735,113 for a study on how gender-affirming hormone therapy affects the microbiome in mice.
$1.2 million to analyze androgen effects on the reproductive neuroendocrine axis.
$3.1 million to investigate how hormones influence asthma outcomes. 

 

The studies relevant to transgender were for research into the effect of hormone therapies on post-menopausal women and transgender individuals and were conducted on transgenic * (not transgender) mice, a common practice. They were done for safe and beneficial outcomes for these people.

 

Therefore Trump's claims are ludicrous and absurd and you can form your own opinion on what he was trying to achieve with his comments.

* "Transgenic mice are genetically modified mice that have had foreign DNA introduced into their genome, allowing scientists to study specific genes and their effects on biological processes."

 

Source article: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/science/did-donald-trump-confuse-transgender-mice-with-transgenic-mice/articleshow/118761915.cms

19 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

Trump's claim: $8m was spent on "making mice transgender".

 

Firstly, you cannot make mice or any other animal transgender. A transgender person by definition is someone who believes that their gender identity is different to their biological sex assigned at birth. Animals are incapable of this assertion so they can never be transgender. Scientists know this.

 

The $8m was in National Institutes of Health grants, not spending, as broken down below.

 

$455,000 for a study on hormone therapy and HIV vaccine. 
$2.5 million to examine the reproductive consequences of steroid hormone administration.
$299,940 for research into the impact of testosterone therapy for breast cancer.
$735,113 for a study on how gender-affirming hormone therapy affects the microbiome in mice.
$1.2 million to analyze androgen effects on the reproductive neuroendocrine axis.
$3.1 million to investigate how hormones influence asthma outcomes. 

 

The studies relevant to transgender were for research into the effect of hormone therapies on post-menopausal women and transgender individuals and were conducted on transgenic * (not transgender) mice, a common practice. They were done for safe and beneficial outcomes for these people.

 

Therefore Trump's claims are ludicrous and absurd and you can form your own opinion on what he was trying to achieve with his comments.

* "Transgenic mice are genetically modified mice that have had foreign DNA introduced into their genome, allowing scientists to study specific genes and their effects on biological processes."

 

Source article: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/science/did-donald-trump-confuse-transgender-mice-with-transgenic-mice/articleshow/118761915.cms

Its actually all detailed in the OP including the breakdown you've taken from Times of India. The original source is the Whitehouse, lol.

 

Are you denying CNN made a correction?

 

 

29 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its actually all detailed in the OP including the breakdown you've taken from Times of India. The original source is the Whitehouse, lol.

 

 

Well, nice to know we agree on the facts then. Despite the original article using lots of reportedly's and alledgedly's. Lol. I don't really see the problem.

 

The inflammatory headline of Transgender Animals when they're no such thing is bad enough but for Trump to say that they're trying to make mice transgender is a lie or just dumb. 

 

I haven't read about CNN and have no interest in partisan politics, particular from the U.S.

 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

Well, nice to know we agree on the facts then. Despite the original 

article using lots reportedly's and alledgedly's. Lol. I don't really see the problem.

 

The inflammatory headline of Transgender Animals when they're no such thing is bad enough but for Trump to say that they're trying to make mice transgender is a lie or just dumb. 

 

I haven't read about CNN and have no interest in partisan politics, particular from the U.S.

 

The facts are that CNN had to edit their fact checker because what they were claiming was facts was not. The headline "Transgender Mice Experiments" why is that inflammatory? Can you explain the experiments that went on?

52 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

Trump's claim: $8m was spent on "making mice transgender".

 

Firstly, you cannot make mice or any other animal transgender. A transgender person by definition is someone who believes that their gender identity is different to their biological sex assigned at birth. Animals are incapable of this assertion so they can never be transgender. Scientists know this.

 

The $8m was in National Institutes of Health grants, not spending, as broken down below.

 

$455,000 for a study on hormone therapy and HIV vaccine. 
$2.5 million to examine the reproductive consequences of steroid hormone administration.
$299,940 for research into the impact of testosterone therapy for breast cancer.
$735,113 for a study on how gender-affirming hormone therapy affects the microbiome in mice.
$1.2 million to analyze androgen effects on the reproductive neuroendocrine axis.
$3.1 million to investigate how hormones influence asthma outcomes. 

 

The studies relevant to transgender were for research into the effect of hormone therapies on post-menopausal women and transgender individuals and were conducted on transgenic * (not transgender) mice, a common practice. They were done for safe and beneficial outcomes for these people.

 

Therefore Trump's claims are ludicrous and absurd and you can form your own opinion on what he was trying to achieve with his comments.

* "Transgenic mice are genetically modified mice that have had foreign DNA introduced into their genome, allowing scientists to study specific genes and their effects on biological processes."

 

Source article: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/science/did-donald-trump-confuse-transgender-mice-with-transgenic-mice/articleshow/118761915.cms

Sooooo, why did CNN admit they were wrong?

27 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The facts are that CNN had to edit their fact checker because what they were claiming was facts was not. The headline "Transgender Mice Experiments" why is that inflammatory? Can you explain the experiments that went on?

I've told you, I'm totally not interested in what CNN have done. I'm not an apologist for them and it 's got nothing to do with the relevance of what I'm saying 

 

There are no such things as transgender animals, as I explained above, so saying Transgender Mice is just being provocative. 

 

You clearly don't (or don't want to) understand what is meant by transgender or gender transition. 

 

From the OP: 

 

"At the University of Michigan, an NIH grant of $2,588,000 was reportedly used to study the effects of hormone treatment in mice to replicate gender transition."

 

Really? Gender transition: 

 

Gender transition is the process of living in accordance with one's gender identity, rather than the sex assigned at birth. It's a personal journey that can involve social and medical changes. 

 

Hormone replacement therapy (HRT), Gender affirming surgeries, and Transgender voice therapy. 

 

• Changing name and pronouns
• Changing clothing, hairstyles, and appearance
• Coming out as transgender
• Connecting with support groups

How can any of that apply to animals? I'd love to see mice changing their hairstyles. Lol.

 

I'm British so I'm not interested in the politics of this. It's an American tragedy.

On 3/8/2025 at 9:17 AM, Jingthing said:

Again, he lied purely to advance his vile demonization of trans people for political gain.

 

The claim that the Biden administration spent $8 million on "making mice transgender" is misleading. The funding was for scientific research involving hormone therapy in mice to study its effects on various health issues, not for altering the mice's gender identity.

Trans? 0.1% of people in US. Get over it. More people getting harmed in the Ukraine.

 

You lefties nit pick. Look at the bigger picture.

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Trans? 0.1% of people in US. Get over it. More people getting harmed in the Ukraine.

 

You lefties nit pick. Look at the bigger picture.

Let us know when you start...............

50 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

I've told you, I'm totally not interested in what CNN have done. I'm not an apologist for them and it 's got nothing to do with the relevance of what I'm saying 

 

There are no such things as transgender animals, as I explained above, so saying Transgender Mice is just being provocative. 

 

You clearly don't (or don't want to) understand what is meant by transgender or gender transition. 

 

From the OP: 

 

"At the University of Michigan, an NIH grant of $2,588,000 was reportedly used to study the effects of hormone treatment in mice to replicate gender transition."

 

Really? Gender transition: 

 

Gender transition is the process of living in accordance with one's gender identity, rather than the sex assigned at birth. It's a personal journey that can involve social and medical changes. 

 

Hormone replacement therapy (HRT), Gender affirming surgeries, and Transgender voice therapy. 

 

• Changing name and pronouns
• Changing clothing, hairstyles, and appearance
• Coming out as transgender
• Connecting with support groups

How can any of that apply to animals? I'd love to see mice changing their hairstyles. Lol.

 

I'm British so I'm not interested in the politics of this. It's an American tragedy.

But CNN is part of the headlines and the OP you are posting on....😔

 

28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

But CNN is part of the headlines and the OP you are posting on....😔

 

I'm commenting on the issues brought up, not on what CNN may have got wrong. I know you really want me to say ah well, CNN got it wrong so it invalidates what I'm saying,  but that's not gonna happen. 

 

You've completely ignored the points I've made and insist banging on about CNN, so I think we're done.

 

Just now, Baht Simpson said:

I'm commenting on the issues brought up, not on what CNN may have got wrong. I know you really want me to say ah well, CNN got it wrong so it invalidates what I'm saying,  but that's not gonna happen. 

 

You've completely ignored the points I've made and insist banging on about CNN, so I think we're done.

 

I'm commenting on all the issues and ignoring nothing but since you are ignoring one of the main points of this OP, CNN walking back its fact check because it was wrong then yes we obviously are done

On 3/8/2025 at 1:35 PM, impulse said:

 

And then a few months later, someone in a Georgia court proved that Fox were basically right.  The machines can be hacked.  Fairly easily.

 

But that's the nature of settling before trial.  I'm sure they agreed to not ask for their money back.

 

B.S., as usual! That "machines can be hacked" was not the lawsuit motive. 🤣

4 hours ago, Baht Simpson said:

Trump's claim: $8m was spent on "making mice transgender".

 

Firstly, you cannot make mice or any other animal transgender. A transgender person by definition is someone who believes that their gender identity is different to their biological sex assigned at birth. Animals are incapable of this assertion so they can never be transgender. Scientists know this.

 

The $8m was in National Institutes of Health grants, not spending, as broken down below.

 

$455,000 for a study on hormone therapy and HIV vaccine. 
$2.5 million to examine the reproductive consequences of steroid hormone administration.
$299,940 for research into the impact of testosterone therapy for breast cancer.
$735,113 for a study on how gender-affirming hormone therapy affects the microbiome in mice.
$1.2 million to analyze androgen effects on the reproductive neuroendocrine axis.
$3.1 million to investigate how hormones influence asthma outcomes. 

 

The studies relevant to transgender were for research into the effect of hormone therapies on post-menopausal women and transgender individuals and were conducted on transgenic * (not transgender) mice, a common practice. They were done for safe and beneficial outcomes for these people.

 

Therefore Trump's claims are ludicrous and absurd and you can form your own opinion on what he was trying to achieve with his comments.

* "Transgenic mice are genetically modified mice that have had foreign DNA introduced into their genome, allowing scientists to study specific genes and their effects on biological processes."

 

Source article: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/science/did-donald-trump-confuse-transgender-mice-with-transgenic-mice/articleshow/118761915.cms

 

You're telling me a male mouse can't grow its hair long, put on a dress and squeak, "It's Ma'am!"?  Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

On 3/7/2025 at 7:47 PM, Yagoda said:

Your bud Tugs clone.

Naa I’m still here reading through this thread its comical watching the bots and trolls jumping in on this non issue/ divisive/ nonsense.the trumper spin machine is so goofy now they are up in arms about the nose art on the B29 super fortress that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima,the captain of said aircraft named it after his mother Enola Gay ……….yup you got it they are bleating about Paul tibbits moms middle name…….ahhh boy ridiculous nonsense.anyway I’m a busy boy today’s project is laying out for a fifth wheel hitch in the bed of my truck not trolling the internet…..cheers!