Ukraine must cede territory in peace talks, says US

[jayboy]

20 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

How could Churchill be responsible for rebuilding the RAF.  He only became PM on 10 May 1940 and the Battle of Britain is deemed to have started on 10 July?

He was out of government for al of the 1930's until he became First Lord of the Admiralty at the outbreak of war.

 

Correct.It was actually often unfairly maligned Neville Chamberlain who began the rapid expansion of the RAF, and ultimately it was the strength of the Royal Navy that deterred invasion - not to mention Hitler's vacillating attitude and preoccupation with making war in the East.

 

I was going to make a detailed rebuttal of the original poster's sillier points but one soon works out it's pointless when the person is clueless.

 

On a side issue, I think Zelensky  has quite a lot in common with Churchill but that's for another discussion

[JimHuaHin]

Will Trump soon be ceding Hawaii, Alaska to Canada, south-western USA back to Mexico, etc.?

 

I think not.

[worgeordie]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

My happiness or otherwise is no concern of yours.

Try discussing the topic instead of me.

 

Yawn.

Very touchy ,eh

 

regards Worgeordie

[metisdead]

Posts using derogatory and toxic nicknames or intentional misspelling of people’s names will be removed. If you don’t want your post to be removed, spell people’s names correctly, this applies to both sides of the political debate.

 

Off topic deflection posts and replies about Afghanistan and Alaska have been removed as this topic is about:

 

Ukraine must cede territory in peace talks, says US

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, jayboy said:

 

Correct.It was actually often unfairly maligned Neville Chamberlain who began the rapid expansion of the RAF, and ultimately it was the strength of the Royal Navy that deterred invasion - not to mention Hitler's vacillating attitude and preoccupation with making war in the East.

 

I was going to make a detailed rebuttal of the original poster's sillier points but one soon works out it's pointless when the person is clueless.

 

On a side issue, I think Zelensky  has quite a lot in common with Churchill but that's for another discussion

Do reinvent history by all means if you want to make vacuous attacks against other posters, but unfortunately for you it's all on the record.

Many different sites supporting me, but I'll provide just one.

 

https://archives.chu.cam.ac.uk/education/churchill-era/exercises/appeasement/churchill-rearmament-and-appeasement/

Churchill’s role in British defence planning and foreign policy during the 1930s is of crucial importance for any understanding of the period. Unfortunately, it is virtually impossible to look at the issue now without hindsight. Churchill identified the growing strength of Germany’s armed forces, and he was proved right; he predicted that the situation in Europe would lead to war and it did; he said Britain was far behind Germany in its programme of rearmament and especially in air power, and he was right in this too. The case for honouring his foresight and condemning those on both sides in parliament who ignored and even derided him can seem unanswerable.

 

 

On a side issue, I think Zelensky  has quite a lot in common with Churchill but that's for another discussion

 

You did mention clueless in your post did you not? Zelensky is many things but Churchill, hardly.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Very touchy ,eh

 

regards Worgeordie

Nothing to say on topic then?

[jayboy]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Do reinvent history by all means if you want to make vacuous attacks against other posters, but unfortunately for you it's all on the record.

Many different sites supporting me, but I'll provide just one.

 

https://archives.chu.cam.ac.uk/education/churchill-era/exercises/appeasement/churchill-rearmament-and-appeasement/

Churchill’s role in British defence planning and foreign policy during the 1930s is of crucial importance for any understanding of the period. Unfortunately, it is virtually impossible to look at the issue now without hindsight. Churchill identified the growing strength of Germany’s armed forces, and he was proved right; he predicted that the situation in Europe would lead to war and it did; he said Britain was far behind Germany in its programme of rearmament and especially in air power, and he was right in this too. The case for honouring his foresight and condemning those on both sides in parliament who ignored and even derided him can seem unanswerable.

 

 

On a side issue, I think Zelensky  has quite a lot in common with Churchill but that's for another discussion

 

You did mention clueless in your post did you not? Zelensky is many things but Churchill, hardly.

 

Oh dear, you are quite the chump.Briefly then, because serious discussion seems beyond you.

 

Churchill obviously foresaw the threat of the Nazis very early but he was not in power.Chamberlain poured money into a succession of 13 RAF expansion programmes, while, as prime minister, he approved the construction of a series of aircraft factories, most notably the world’s largest plant at Castle Bromwich in Birmingham, which was meant to produce 1,000 Spitfires by June 1940. By 1939, rearmament was swallowing 21.4 per cent of Britain’s gross national product, a figure that reached 51.7 per cent by 1940. When Chamberlain finally declared war in September 1939, Britain’s aircraft output had overtaken that of Germany’s.

 

Churchill's greatest living biographer, Andrew Roberts, has repeatedly pointed out similarities between Churchill and Zelensky.

[worgeordie]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Nothing to say on topic then?

Can you not read ? , I posted several times on page 7 , 🤘

 

Regards Worgeordie

[wombat]

yes it must...all the rare earth land which will be mined by all 3, Russia America and Ukraine

[FlorC]

The territory that will go to Russia are the lucky ones.

The rest will get a big inflow of migrants to replace the dead people and rebuild .

That is the plan. The ukranians are fighting for a country that will not be theirs anymore

in a few years after the wars finishes.

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, FlorC said:

The territory that will go to Russia are the lucky ones.

The rest will get a big inflow of migrants to replace the dead people and rebuild .

That is the plan. The ukranians are fighting for a country that will not be theirs anymore

in a few years after the wars finishes.

Of course it is Putin's plan to control all of Ukraine whether literally or through a puppet government. A person would have to be totally clueless not to see that. Any kind of "peace" deal wouldn't change Putin's intention one bit.