Trump’s Order Mandating Proof of Citizenship for Voter Registration Sparks Legal Concerns

[mrwebb8825]

On 3/26/2025 at 5:37 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Sounds like a perfectly reasonable thing to require to vote. I don't get to vote in Thailand, so why should a Thai get to vote in the US?

 

As usual, the wokeistas are having a brain melt as it reduces their chances of winning a government of their want.

NY – Court Blocks Non-Citizens from Voting in Municipal Elections

"New York City’s attempt to allow non-citizens to vote in municipal elections was recently terminated by the highest court in New York State. In a 6-1 decision, the high court stated that “the New York constitution as it stands today draws a firm line restricting voting to citizens.” 

 

Who cannot vote?

• Non-citizens, including permanent legal residents, cannot vote in federal, state, and most local elections.
• Some people who have a mental disability may not be able to vote.

https://www.usa.gov/who-can-vote

Congress Approves Civil Rights Act of 1957

An article from CQ Almanac 1957

"One of the notable features of the 1956 election was the movement of Negro votes into the Republican column. Republicans and northern Democrats alike interpreted the returns to mean that the Negro vote, safely Republican from Reconstruction days to 1928, and later, during the New Deal, overwhelmingly Democratic, currently could not be considered the exclusive property of either party. Rather, Negroes were weighing the performance of both parties, especially in the field of civil rights. Republican candidates scored heavily in the 1956 campaign by contrasting President Eisenhower's initiative in the civil rights field with the lack of performance by the Democratic-controlled 84th Congress."

 

Interesting use of language. Still don't find anything that includes non-citizens being allowed to vote.

Been this way in the US since the 1700's without challenge. The USofA belongs to US citizens only! IF you don't fight for it, you're fighting against it PERIOD! 🤠

[connda]

Trump’s Order Mandating Proof of Citizenship for Voter Registration Sparks Legal Concerns

 

i agree 100% percent.  I really don't understand.  If I were to say that Farangs should be able to vote in Thailand elections - why not?  We're here.  We live here. Legally. So we should be able to vote without being a citizen, right?

No!  It's stupid.  All countries have the right to limit voting to their citizen.  So please - school me.  If you think non-ciizens should vote in the US, don't you think we should be able to vote in Thailand.  Or do those of you who are 100% for non-US citizens voting in US elections hypocritical enough to actually hold a double-standard?  If so, I just gotta hear you twisted rationale. 

[connda]

On 3/27/2025 at 7:17 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Let me correct you.

 

US Citizens, rich or poor may vote.

 

Any barrier placed in the way of them doing so impacts the probability that come election day they can vote.

 

Those barriers disproportionately effect the poor and ethnic minorities.

 

Let’s not pretend you do not understand that.

Using the same rationale, poor and ethnic minorities should be allow to drive a car without a driver's license because a driver's license is a barriers keeping them for their right to drive?  No, they need a license.

So requiring proof of citizenship (a birth certificate) is a "burden."  So for everything else that requires a birth certificate, your OK, except for requiring a birth certificate to obtain a voter's card and being required to show it when you vote. 

Really - ya'll are insane.  What you really want is people to be able to vote without any form of ID so that illegal aliens can vote because they primarily vote Democrat.  And now?  That's illegal. As it should be.  You people who believe gaming the system are both anti-American, dishonest, and willing to engage in criminal acts to get your way.  I have no doubt that Democrats will break the law to obtain fake IDs for illegals and others who are by law, not allowed to vote.  And in doing so you'll become a felon.  Just like you love to accuse Trump of being.  Amazing! You people lack basic morality.

[connda]

On 3/27/2025 at 4:27 AM, Social Media said:

Under existing law, individuals registering to vote must swear under penalty of perjury that they are U.S. citizens.

Which is unenforcable.  "Soy ciudadano americano, honesto!" The only way to rein in non-Citizens from voting is to require proof of citizenship.  I have no problem submitting my birth certificate to obtain my voting card.

[connda]

On 3/27/2025 at 4:27 AM, Social Media said:

Additionally, birth certificates are not included as an acceptable form of proof under the directive, further complicating the registration process for many eligible voters.  

They should be.

[connda]

On 3/27/2025 at 4:27 AM, Social Media said:

NBC News

Go figure.

[still kicking]

On 3/27/2025 at 6:15 AM, morrobay said:

So is that  supposed to mean stupid people are in favor of fair elections that by law are for US citizens? "You people" just can't stop making fools of yourselves 

 

I just voted in the OZ election (postal); no proof of citizenship is required, just a few questions and off you go.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 hours ago, connda said:

Using the same rationale, poor and ethnic minorities should be allow to drive a car without a driver's license because a driver's license is a barriers keeping them for their right to drive?  No, they need a license.

So requiring proof of citizenship (a birth certificate) is a "burden."  So for everything else that requires a birth certificate, your OK, except for requiring a birth certificate to obtain a voter's card and being required to show it when you vote. 

Really - ya'll are insane.  What you really want is people to be able to vote without any form of ID so that illegal aliens can vote because they primarily vote Democrat.  And now?  That's illegal. As it should be.  You people who believe gaming the system are both anti-American, dishonest, and willing to engage in criminal acts to get your way.  I have no doubt that Democrats will break the law to obtain fake IDs for illegals and others who are by law, not allowed to vote.  And in doing so you'll become a felon.  Just like you love to accuse Trump of being.  Amazing! You people lack basic morality.

The kitsch art of the false equivalence shows up again.

 

The right to vote is held under the Constitution.

 

There is no right to drive a car under the Constitution.

 

Not by any stretch of a rational (you used the word) imagination are they the same thing. 

[merck]

From a previous election.

[Chomper Higgot]

9 hours ago, merck said:

From a previous election.

Oh look, another newly minted forum member posting offensive memes in the supposedly fact based news sub forum.

 

On this occasion making use of the graves of dead servicemen.