French Tourist in Critical Condition After Zebra Crossing Accident

[rattlesnake]

1 hour ago, connda said:

I'm going to be Captain Obvious here.  Look at the road.  Almost no traffic.  So the guy decided to step out in front of one of the few cars on the road at night?  Why not wait until the road is clear?  Captain Obvious says, that's called self-preservation.  If the French guy is the type who thinks that pedestrians have "the right of way" in cross-walks in Thailand, and for that matter globally, technically he's probably correct.  Realistically, he's in the hospital fighting for his life.  Sometimes it's better to be "safe" and give up the right-of-way to the 2000 lb vehicle and cross when the vehicles have passed. I don't have a lot of sympathy.  Personally I yield to vehicles.  I've lived here too long and know better. I'll walk across the road after they pass by.  Then everyone is safe.

 

Being French, it's possible that he forgot to look left. His brain went into automatic mode, he casually glanced to the right, saw the empty road and crossed. It happens more easily than one would think.

[baansgr]

When are they gonna do away with these zebra crossings, pissed up, stoned entitled foreigners with no sense causing so many accidents.

[Ben Zioner]

2 hours ago, Dmitry2222 said:

I get confused about where people are supposed to walk in local cities.

Thai people don't walk.

[baansgr]

46 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

If Zebra crossings pedestrians haven't got right of way on the road then whats the point of having them? F*** Thai drivers.

They haven't, that's just exactly it. Pedestrians are supposed to wait for traffic to stop!!!...another clueless idiot 

[bkk6060]

Unfortunately, some people are inexperienced about this place

they think people here will stop.  Really, in Thailand it is up to the pedestrian to make sure it is 100% clear before crossing.  Just the way it is.

[baansgr]

2 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Unfortunately, some people are inexperienced about this place

they think people here will stop.  Really, in Thailand it is up to the pedestrian to make sure it is 100% clear before crossing.  Just the way it is.

The thing is, everybody seems to be like Jeremy vine..."I am.always in the right".. fortunately you are not..spastic cyclists going through red lights, up one way streets and not looking when turning out of side roads is asking for it...same as these entitled pedestrians just.walking out without looking, or looking and.thinking cars that have no chance to stop in time should...this is where the problem is..a stupid noggy with his noggy walking sticks  shouted at me the other day for not stopping...given I had about one second to stop..this is uneducated pure entitlement at it's best

 

[KhunLA]

58 minutes ago, pimmmm said:

Yeah I turn the light on my apple watch when walking down our dark soi at night, suspect someone speeding down on their bike pissed might run me down if they don't see 

Yep, especially if near or after sunset ... got some kind of light, and even the dog is that smart ... 

[IvorBiggun2]

40 minutes ago, baansgr said:

They haven't, that's just exactly it. Pedestrians are supposed to wait for traffic to stop!!!...another clueless idiot 

 

Another clueless p**ck above. who doesn't know the highway code.

 

 

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Yes, pedestrians generally have the right of way at zebra crossings (also known as marked crosswalks) and drivers are legally required to give way to pedestrians on the crossing. 

 

[baansgr]

1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

Another clueless p**ck above. who doesn't know the highway code.

 

 

 

 

You can read what the highway code says below.." wait until it is safe to proceed"...don't just walk out like you dummies do here

 

Before crossing any road, including at pedestrian crossings, look both ways, listen for approaching traffic, and wait until it's safe to proceed

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, KannikaP said:

From the OP photo, it looks like he is running, with his head turned backwards to his left.

And not even on the Zebra crossing.

It was reported that he tried to jump out of the way of the oncoming car which could account for your thinking that he was not on the crossing.  Crossing the road there he had to be on the crossing as it is a continuation of the full width of the gap in the median.

[KannikaP]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It was reported that he tried to jump out of the way of the oncoming car which could account for your thinking that he was not on the crossing.  Crossing the road there he had to be on the crossing as it is a continuation of the full width of the gap in the median.

What I can see in the photo is him running to cross the road, into the path of the oncoming vehicle, whilst looking backwards to his left. 

Who reported otherwise please?

[Dmitry2222]

2 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

Thai people don't walk.

Are you sure?

 

[KannikaP]

2 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

Another clueless p**ck above. who doesn't know the highway code.

 

 

 

They used to say that if the pedestrian had one foot on the Zebra they had the right to cross and the vehicle must stop. But if the driver is only given a second or two to stop, serves the pedestrian right.

[KannikaP]

3 minutes ago, Dmitry2222 said:

Are you sure?

 

Looks like they are queuing to me.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

12 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It was reported that he tried to jump out of the way of the oncoming car which could account for your thinking that he was not on the crossing.  Crossing the road there he had to be on the crossing as it is a continuation of the full width of the gap in the median.

What I can see in the photo is him running to cross the road, into the path of the oncoming vehicle, whilst looking backwards to his left. 

Who reported otherwise please?

What you can see is a still from CCTV of someone moving or altering their direction in what appears to be a sudden manner, perhaps.  You cannot know that he is "running to cross" the road, that is an assumption.

 

"Who reported otherwise please?"

Bangkok Post when reporting his death.

[KannikaP]

4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What you can see is a still from CCTV of someone moving or altering their direction in what appears to be a sudden manner, perhaps.  You cannot know that he is "running to cross" the road, that is an assumption.

 

"Who reported otherwise please?"

Bangkok Post when reporting his death.

You see what you want to see, I'll stick with my opinion.

Is everything in the (Thai) newspapers true?

[KannikaP]

The silver car in the first photo is not the same as the black one in the second, with the damage to its left hand windscreen. So maybe he WAS looking at the black Mitsu coming up in the right hand lane.

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, Dmitry2222 said:

Are you sure?

 

They're queueing for motorcycle taxis at Thonglor. ie. not walking.

[Ben Zioner]

1 hour ago, Dmitry2222 said:

Are you sure?

 

Well, these definitely don't walk.

[Dmitry2222]

1 hour ago, Ben Zioner said:

Well, these definitely don't walk.

And how were they materialized on that sidewalk?

 

 

And to complete this conversation, here’s one more link for you: 

 

[webfact]

UPDATE:

 

Tragedy in Thailand: French Tourist Killed on Zebra Crossing

 

Picture courtesy of Amarin TV

 

A French tourist tragically lost his life after being hit by a car while crossing a zebra crossing in Kanchanaburi on Wednesday night.

 

The unfortunate event took place on Saengchutor Road near JJ Market in Muang district, as confirmed by Pol Capt Thammawat Sukheewat from the local police station, who received the alert around 10:45pm.

 

The 40-year-old visitor was found severely injured on the roadside, with significant trauma to his face, limbs, and body. Emergency services treated the victim at the scene before he was rushed to Phaholpolpayuhasena Hospital. Unfortunately, he succumbed to his injuries shortly after midnight,

according to Pol Col Surayut Mekmangkol, the chief of Kanchanaburi police.

 

The French embassy has been informed, and his body has been sent to the Police General Hospital in Bangkok for a detailed post-mortem examination.

 

 

 

Krittaphat Kamrai, 24, the driver of the vehicle involved in the incident, stayed at the scene and was tested for alcohol consumption, with results showing no intoxication. Security footage recorded the moment the tourist was struck while using the zebra crossing. Reports indicate that Krittaphat failed to brake as he approached the crossing, resulting in the collision.

 

Police have charged Krittaphat with reckless driving leading to death, and he is currently detained pending further investigation. The loss has resonated deeply, highlighting the importance of road safety, particularly in areas frequented by pedestrians and tourists.

 

Authorities are continuing their inquiries into this devastating incident, aiming to piece together the full circumstances surrounding the tragic accident.

 

Based on a story by Bangkok Post

 

-- 2025-04-04

 

 

[hotchilli]

20 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

Most of the zebra crossings here on Samui are so faded that they are difficult to see in the day time.

Not helped by the idiots that park on them (where the paint is a bit more bright) as they have to park as close to the shop as possible.

Basically forget any zebra crossings, drivers ignore them anyway.

Just use your common sense and cross a road where and when it's safe to do so 

[BoganInParasite]

In Thailand I will stop for people on a zebra crossing. But if I see someone waiting on the edge of a crossing I will first check to see if there is traffic behind me before deciding whether to stop. I hold a genuine fear that whenever stopped in a traffic lane in Thailand for any reason there is a non-trivial chance of being run into by someone not paying attention. And we all know who would most likely get pressured to pay irrespective of fault. I've driven in a large number of countries and Thailand is the only one where I don't automatically stop. I think I've commented before how shocked my Thai wife was on her first trip to Australia when we and others stopped for pedestrians and she as a pedestrian was afforded the same courtesy.

[shackleton]

Thailands safety record leaves a lot to be desired

I believe some Thais don't know what a Zebra crossing is 

A few times I have had to look left right centre in otherwords everywhere when crossing a Zebra crossing motor bikes are the worst culprits speeding 

[petedk]

20 hours ago, Dmitry2222 said:

Not too long ago, I was lucky not to be hit by a motorcycle on the sidewalk. Actually, I get confused about where people are supposed to walk in local cities.

 

It sometimes feels like people are not supposed to walk in cities with blocked footpaths, no footpaths and total disrepect for pedestrians.

[sikishrory]

"poor lighting and faded zebra crossing markings at the accident site, making it difficult for drivers to see pedestrians. The site lacks flashing lights or warning signs to alert drivers."

 

This is 99% of zebra crossings in the country.

[ChipButty]

I have told many tourist to just forget the zebra crossing it doesn't exist in Thailand, don't think they will stop for you, they wont, 

[soalbundy]

20 hours ago, PomPolo said:

Hope he's OK fair play to the driver for stopping and helping rare that happens, foreigners sometimes think that Zebra crossings are the same as their own country like cars must stop if someone steps on one, however I think most Thai drivers think of it more as a starting grid on a formula one track.

I agree, pedestrian crossings are a hazard in Thailand and should be removed.

[CMBob]

At least here in Chiangmai, any pedestrian that crosses a street at any type of crossing (a marked zebra crossing regardless if stoplights, signs, or whatever are present) without at least watching for cars or motorcycles totally ignoring it and speeding on through is simply taking a gamble.   Seems that stoplights, stop signs, and other traffic signals are simply "advisory" for some drivers here.

[ChipButty]

I think it's better to walk to a set of traffic lights at least you stand half a chance,