It occurred to me today as I observed a gentleman bellowing pleasantries to a restaurant hostess (really pleasantries and really bellowing), that here on AN we don't have a significant bit of info that we have IRL on whether or not to engage in dialogue with a person we encounter. The above-mentioned  "person" was of course wearing a singlet and displaying a large number of tattoos.

 

I am talking about adding to the member profile the number of square inches of tattoos visible when a person is wearing a singlet.

I have found that individuals I encounter in public are interesting and polite conversationalists in inverse proportion to the number of square inches of neck, shoulder, and arm tattoos they display.

This would allow self-selection of the kind that takes place IRL, the tattooed could gravitate to each other and the nons could do  the same.

I don't think this is unfairly prejudicial to anyone as choosing to get a tattoo is clearly volitional as would be reporting it on profile like gender and location.

 

Again this information would be provided or not  voluntarily.

Asking about tattoos visible when wearing a singlet would not apply to those of you who have a "tramp stamp" of a Chinese character which may say "courage" as you think, or "boiled cabbage" as it actually does.

Your tramp stamps are your own business.

 

In any event, this a only suggestion and is of course open for discussion.

Got none. Waste of money.

I agree, maybe a tattoo zone within the forum where these people mix together and talk tattoos and the story behind them 🥱, @fredwiggy can be put in charge, commander in chief of the tattoo people.

 

In real life tattoos are useful in quickly identifying men to avoid

What the heck is a singlet ?

11 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I agree, maybe a tattoo zone within the forum where these people mix together and talk tattoos and the story behind them 🥱, @fredwiggy can be put in charge, commander in chief of the tattoo people.

 

In real life tattoos are useful in quickly identifying men to avoid

I'm guessing you spend a lot of time indoors. By the way, I did say I didn't have any tattoos. Showing preejudice against people who like art on their bodies in good taste is ignorance. A tattoo has nothing to do with what kind of person they are. Tattoos are something anyone can get. Criminals to politicians. Would you prefer the company of Jeffrey Dahmer, Jeffrey Epstein or Ted Bundy, who didn't have tattoos?

5 minutes ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

What the heck is a singlet ?

Workout attire.

Tattoos are for sailors, criminals, tarts and morons

1 hour ago, cdemundo said:

Asking about tattoos visible when wearing a singlet

The question that needs to be asked is how much saggy skin and tattoos are visable. Most of the guys here are aged 

 

I'm sure there are a few here who don't take care of themselves, sat behind the keyboard day in day out, not exercising. 

 

Those with many tattoos I would ask, why is so much money spent on tattoos, should have been spent on a gym membership 

4 minutes ago, proton said:

Tattoos are for sailors, criminals, tarts and morons

Try telling that to their faces, especially the ones who are bigger, wealthier and more educated

10 minutes ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

What the heck is a singlet ?

Yeah, I know.

It is a name for a garment that has many names and I am never sure what to call it.

A sleeveless t-shirt, a vest, a wife beater or just beater, (in the past I guess) a tank top?

But I didn't want to belabor this point, but you are right, what are they called?

 

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Try telling that to their faces, especially the ones who are bigger, wealthier and more educated

Very defensive about tattoos, just saying.

Bigger, possibly.

Wealthier, again anything is possible.

More educated, probably rarer.

 

As far as my original post:

 "I have found that individuals I encounter in public are interesting and polite conversationalists in inverse proportion to the number of square inches of neck, shoulder, and arm tattoos they display."

 

Your swaggering and implied threats are not what I consider interesting and polite conversation whether you have tattoos or not. They are the kind of things that come to mind with tattooed people.

18 minutes ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

What the heck is a singlet ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling_singlet

 

Not sure the person you met would look that great in the design referenced on Wikipedia... 😆

1 minute ago, cdemundo said:

Very defensive about tattoos, just saying.

Bigger, possibly.

Wealthier, again anything is possible.

More educated, probably rarer.

 

 

Mainly because it's a stupid statement. I've known hundreds of people with tattoos, many of them well off, highly educated, and hundreds in gyms I worked out in. All my children besides my little one here (for now) have them. My dad had a genius level IQ, and also had one. many get them in the Armed Forces. Can't judge a book by it's cover.

23 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

A tattoo has nothing to do with what kind of person they are.

That statement is demonstrably incorrect.

23 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Showing preejudice against people who like art on their bodies in good taste is ignorance.

Absolutely not correct (though I’m not sure what preejudice is other than a mistake or ignorance). Having an opinion about a person’s choice of skin decoration is totally normal. 
As an example the full body tattoos if a subsection of Japanese that deliberately are designed only to be visible when long sleeves, shirt and tie, and normal trousers are not being worn, virtually guarantee prejudice against the wearer and that prejudice is virtually required by the wearer.

 

23 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Tattoos are something anyone can get.

They are once the person is of age, but the style of tattoo will influence the reception the wearer gets.

 

There are tattoos that are acceptable to the majority of people like tribal tattoos etc

24 minutes ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

What the heck is a singlet ?

 

We call 'em "wife beaters" where I come from. 

 

Used to be called Guinea T's, but we can't say that any more.

 

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Mainly because it's a stupid statement. I've known hundreds of people with tattoos, many of them well off, highly educated, and hundreds in gyms I worked out in. All my children besides my little one here (for now) have them. My dad had a genius level IQ, and also had one. many get them in the Armed Forces. Can't judge a book by it's cover.

Sorry to trigger you.

Swaggering, threats, bragging... you make my point.

 

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Can't judge a book by it's cover.

Wrong again, you absolutely can, and the majority do, judge books by their cover.

1 minute ago, sometimewoodworker said:

That statement is demonstrably incorrect.

Absolutely not correct (though I’m not sure what preejudice is other than a mistake or ignorance). Having an opinion about s person’s choice of skin decoration is totally normal. 
As an example the full body tattoos if a subsection of Japanese that deliberately are designed only to be visible when long sleeves, shirt and tie, and normal trousers are not being worn, virtually guarantee prejudice against the wearer and that prejudice is virtually required by the wearer.

 

They are once the person is of age, but the style of tattoo will influence the reception the wearer gets.

 

There are tattoos that are acceptable to the majority of people like tribal tattoos etc

What I said is in fact all correct. That you think differently is your opinion. That people show prejudice against those that have them is obvious, the word being "prejudice". Thinking a typo is ignorance IS ignorance. Having an opinion is normal, although it means nothing.

2 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Wrong again, you absolutely can, and the majority do, judge books by their cover.

And they're wrong. Thinking the majority do, is also wrong. You don't know what's in anyone's mind besides your own.

4 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Sorry to trigger you.

Swaggering, threats, bragging... you make my point.

 

Where is swaggering, threats and bragging? People earlier said those with tattoos have a low IQ. Tattoos have nothing to do with a person's IQ. Stating a fact isn't anything besides what it is. People assuming those with tattoos are any different than those without shows ignorance, as they don't know them personally, besides the few they do know personally, at least somewhat. You missed my points, as I told of people I know personally very well.

24 minutes ago, proton said:

Tattoos are for sailors, criminals, tarts and morons

 

Oi, my Mrs has tattoo's, one on her stomach, says, this way up, and one in the small of her back, says, don't you dare. 

5 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Oi, my Mrs has tattoo's, one on her stomach, says, this way up, and one in the small of her back, says, don't you dare. 

 

   Your Mrs has a tattoo just above her bum telling people not to put their knob in her bum hole?

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Your Mrs has a tattoo just above her bum telling people not to put their knob in her bum hole?

 

Nick, go get a life and a sense of humour.

31 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

The question that needs to be asked is how much saggy skin and tattoos are visable. Most of the guys here are aged 

 

I'm sure there are a few here who don't take care of themselves, sat behind the keyboard day in day out, not exercising. 

 

Those with many tattoos I would ask, why is so much money spent on tattoos, should have been spent on a gym membership 

In over 50 years in many gyms, I've seen thousands of men and women with tattoos. Just as people spend a lot of money on designer clothes which only cost more and don't last as long as regular clothes, and others pay up to $10 for a glass of iced coffee in the US, it's just another thing to spend money on, and their business. I've seen many out of shape people without tattoos and many in shape with tattoos. I've also seen doctors, surgeons, lawyers, judges, politicians and many other professionals with tattoos, as they all came to my gyms. Of course there are many gang  members who have them, but tattoos aren't what makes the person.

I don't have tattoos.... My Wife doesn't have tattoos, no one in either of our families has tattoos.

I have no 'skin' in this discussion one way or another...  (no pun intended).

 

But, to judge a person solely on Tattoo's is daft - yet whether we think so or not, we all somewhere along the line judge people by their appearance - our judgement often depends upon how open minded we are, our experiences, our age etc... 

 

I know some well educated, successful and wealthy people who have 'high end tattoos' that IMO look great.

 

Those people have the kind of 'freedoms' many of us are not fortunate enough to have - they have the luxury of not needing to conform to society... 

 

 

That said: the cheap, rubbish tattoos - look cheap and rubbish and while I try not to judge, there is no quicker way to indicate your socio-economic-educational status than a cheap blurry faded tattoo... 

 

 

So.. before passing judgement or simply drawing opinions: There are tattoos, and then there are tattoos !...

 

 

 

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

In over 50 years in many gyms, I've seen thousands of men and women with tattoos. Just as people spend a lot of money on designer clothes which only cost more and don't last as long as regular clothes, and others pay up to $10 for a glass of iced coffee in the US, it's just another thing to spend money on, and their business. I've seen many out of shape people without tattoos and many in shape with tattoos. I've also seen doctors, surgeons, lawyers, judges, politicians and many other professionals with tattoos, as they all came to my gyms. Of course there are many gang  members who have them, but tattoos aren't what makes the person.

Thanks Fred 

There is this... 

 

1 hour ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

What the heck is a singlet ?

 

wife beater.

25 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

   Your Mrs has a tattoo just above her bum telling people not to put their knob in her bum hole?

 

It probably sounded less creepy in his head.

 

Still gave me a chuckle.  Does that make me a bad person?

 

49 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Very defensive about tattoos, just saying.

Bigger, possibly.

Wealthier, again anything is possible.

More educated, probably rarer.

 

As far as my original post:

 "I have found that individuals I encounter in public are interesting and polite conversationalists in inverse proportion to the number of square inches of neck, shoulder, and arm tattoos they display."

 

Your swaggering and implied threats are not what I consider interesting and polite conversation whether you have tattoos or not. They are the kind of things that come to mind with tattooed people.

Yes tattoo people and tattoo mentality (fredwiggy) quickly go to threats