7 hours ago, save the frogs said:

So how many more years is that? 5 ?

 

For the USA?

More like 25, if past trends continue into the future.

 

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

And that is the absolute crux of the issue, and the very reason why very little overseas manufacturing will return to the US. Wages are too high. Skills are too low. And cost are insane. Trump already lost this battle. He is simply too dim to realize it. Great campaign slogan. Ridiculously far from reality. 

 

Trump will manufacture in Mexico and other countries south of the border.

This will help to limit illegal migration north of the border.

 

4 hours ago, RocketDog said:

The two most powerful weapons in china's arsenal:

Western Social media and propaganda bots.

 

War is deception. Convince the enemy you are strong when you are weak, convince them you are weak when you are strong. 

 

So which side are you helping with your post?

 

And make no mistake.

China is the sworn enemy of every country on the planet including Russia and north Korea.

 

 

 

IDK

 

The SunZi Side?

39 minutes ago, PuiPuiHarry said:

 

 

Presidsents of the USA, since Deng Xiao Peng

George H. W. Bush   Republican 1988

Bill Clinton, Democrat, 1992 + 1996

George W. Bush, Rep, 2000+ 2004

Barack Obama, Dem, 2008+2012

Donald Trump, Rep , 2016

Joe Biden, Dem 2020

Donald Trump, Rep, 2024

 

And all the time, a Senate + House of Representatives functioning in Washington, with a normal functioning press ( mass media), a Supreme court, etc. and hopefully 335 million citizens gifted with a normal working brain.

 

 

 

Go back a bit further.

The problem began with Carter.

 

On 4/23/2025 at 12:56 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

So, is the USA doomed?

 

Yes.

On 4/23/2025 at 12:56 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

What are the betting odds, anyway?

All life is 6-5 against - - Damon Runyon

2 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

All life is 6-5 against - - Damon Runyon

 

So the game of life is a losing proposition then?

 

 

 

17 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

IDK

 

The SunZi Side?

So you've read the art of war I presume?

Otherwise I get nothing from your reply.

17 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Go back a bit further.

The problem began with Carter.

 

What problem?

USA is so behind the manufacturing technology curve, it's mind boggling.

 

USA cost & man hours to make a sub standard auto vs China's output is just embarrassing.

 

 

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

USA is so behind the manufacturing technology curve, it's mind boggling.

 

USA cost & man hours to make a sub standard auto vs China's output is just embarrassing.

 

 

 

Yes.

Seems like the JointVenture path was the right one for China, and the WRONG one for the world.

 

It seems doubtful that the USA will ever be able to catch up.

And, without manufacturing, a country becomes a house of cards.