Travel Rising Prices, Broken Systems Dim Thailand’s Tourist Charm

[Krabi King]

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Ao Nang is ruined.

I can't disagree unfortunately. I've experienced the change.

[candide]

It seems that some prices never change. 20 years ago, the baht bus price was 10 baht, and it's still 10 baht! 

[sambum]

19 hours ago, Magictoad said:

It sounds like Americans whining & whinging to me!  When you read through the list it's like some out of a BLM or feminist meeting. Disparity in pricing!! Give me a break. Can some explain about THE DISPARITY IN WAGES.

Cannabis concerns. Pathetic  Just shut your window. As for children. Then don't bring them here- take them to Disney Land.

Neighbours offer betters experiences? NO THEY DONT.

Quality Matters: Scrutiny Over Infrastructure and Cleanliness

This is a third word country and people get reminded of it sometimes. 

Cost Concerns: Value for Money Diminishing

This might be an issue in some cities such as Bangkok and Pattaya but it's still VERY CHEAP in Issan and the North East.

I wouldn't go to a tourist dump like Chaing Mai.

So yes Thailand is still worth visiting.

 

"This might be an issue in some cities such as Bangkok and Pattaya but it's still VERY CHEAP in Issan and the North East."

 

And what are the prices like in the numerous restaurants and bars in Issan and the North East?

[factual monk]

I feel that food prices are still cheaper in Thailand than other SE Asian countries. And keeping in mind the varieties and hygiene part... I find thai  food sellers and shops still clean than other counter parts. 

But other than food, Thailand has got bit costlier in respect of hotel tariffs, rentals, air fares are obnoxiously high. 

[sambum]

2 hours ago, Andrew65 said:

My old friend was on lower Sukhumvit many years ago where we both lived. At one of the sidewalk stalls a farang spent what seemed like 15 minutes trying to squeeze another 10 Baht reduction from the stallholder, who got so annoyed that he told the guy to **** off.

In my last 10 years living there I never bought things where haggling was involved, I just found it too tiresome in the end.

When I did haggle, if they said 200, I would say 100, and we would agree on 150. That was my target, suggest 50%, and settle at 75% of the quoted price. I'm not gonna spend 20 minutes in the heat and pollution and crowds trying to stiff someone for 10 Baht (around 20p). Thailand being cheap Charlie-central, many will do so.

 

"When I did haggle, if they said 200, I would say 100, and we would agree on 150."

 

Quite right - many tourists think that it's all part of the game, but these people have to make a living and to spend any more than a couple of minutes haggling over 10 baht for something that is probably quite good value for money anyway is taking "bargaining" a bit too far.

[Velisbef]

Easy to blame it on cannabis or alcohol sale hours but the year round air pollution especially during the "high season", the insane traffic jam that doesnt allow the tourists get anywhere, and proces rising constantly can also play a part.

[VBF]

2 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

And what's the point of a holiday without a great lunch/dinner with decent wine in an air-conditioned venue.

For you perhaps, but I prefer to leave such snobbish affectations in the West where they belong.

Simply look to see where the Thai working people go and eat and follow them. Markets, food halls street food etc.

I basically avoid Western food when I'm in Thailand and can still get a delicious dinner in Pattaya for under 100 Baht.

 

Oh and a lot of the flight price rises are not down to Thailand - if you fly from UK for example, look to see how much of your fare is due to TAX  and fees imposed by the UK gov. 

[Ben Zioner]

2 minutes ago, VBF said:

For you perhaps, but I prefer to leave such snobbish affectations in the West where they belong.

Simply look to see where the Thai working people go and eat and follow them. Markets, food halls street food etc.

I basically avoid Western food when I'm in Thailand and can still get a delicious dinner in Pattaya for under 100 Baht

And, beyond foraging, do you have any other activities.

[VBF]

Just now, Ben Zioner said:

And, beyond foraging, do you have any other activities.

What a nonsensical reply!

EXPLAIN How am I "foraging" by walking down a street and going to a café or restaurant or food hall where there are many local people eating good food?

Why do I need to pay for fancy tableware and annoying air-conditioning just to eat boring foreign food in a country that produces (IMO) the tastiest food on the planet?

If I'm a forager, you sir are an arrogant snob.🥵

[ikke1959]

2 hours ago, Maxbkkcm said:

Why do you think there is noise like that? Why no awareness on it like in the west? 

In the west you don't hear music that is so loud that a DB meter will show 100 DB in my house because somebody more than 1 km away is having a party.. Never heard about the eardrum damages that such a loud music will give. No wonder that people start to scream more when they are talking... They are all starting to be deaf already at young ages

[kwilco]

23 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

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Thailand, once a beacon for budget-conscious travellers worldwide, is increasingly facing criticism from international tourists over escalating costs and shifting experiences. Historically renowned for its picturesque beaches, lively cities, and affordability, the kingdom is now being reevaluated by tourists disenchanted with what it currently offers.

 

Cost Concerns: Value for Money Diminishing

 

In recent weeks, a surge of online complaints—evident through nearly 2,000 comments on a Bangkok Post Learning social media post—has echoed the sentiment that Thailand is no longer the cost-effective destination it once was. Travellers have noted exorbitant increases in accommodation prices, especially in popular tourist enclaves such as Koh Samui and Pattaya. For instance, visitors report that hotel rates have tripled, with dining expenses for a simple meal skyrocketing to unprecedented levels.

 

While global inflation plays a role, many argue that Thailand's price hikes outpace standard inflation, describing the increases as "pure greed." Tourists who previously paid $300 for a flight to Thailand now face fares nearing $1,000, a substantial deterrent for those attracted to Thailand’s erstwhile affordability.

 

Bureaucracy Blues: Navigating a Maze of Regulations

 

Another major grievance is the increasingly cumbersome visa and immigration processes. The mandatory TDAC system, requiring prior online registration, has proven especially vexing for older, less tech-savvy travellers. Additionally, the reduction of tourist visa duration from 60 to 30 days has displeased long-stay visitors, further complicating travel plans for those seeking extended stays.

 

Cannabis Concerns: A New Identity Taking Shape

 

Thailand's liberalisation of cannabis laws, once heralded as progressive, has led to an unexpected identity crisis. Many visitors express their discomfort with the widespread aroma of cannabis, particularly those travelling with children. The pervasive smell is seen as detracting from Thailand's family-friendly appeal and drawing tourists more interested in partaking in cannabis than enjoying traditional attractions.

 

Two-Tier Pricing: Fueling Frustrations

 

Adding to the grievances is the clear disparity in pricing between locals and foreigners. Tourists recount paying significantly higher entry fees for attractions compared to Thai nationals, a system they deem discriminatory. This pricing strategy is prevalent across many services, including restaurant menus and transport costs, leaving a sour taste for many.

 

Alternative Destinations: Neighbours Offering Better Experiences

 

Disillusionment with Thailand's current trajectory is pushing tourists to explore neighbouring Southeast Asian countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, and the Philippines, which are increasingly perceived as providing better value and experiences. These countries boast growing infrastructures, welcoming atmospheres, and lower prices on comparable travel offerings.

 

 

 

"I spent three months in Vietnam compared to just one month in Pattaya," recounts one traveller, highlighting the shifting preferences. Tourists are finding that destinations such as Boracay in the Philippines or Bali in Indonesia offer stunning natural beauty at a fraction of the cost seen in Thailand.

 

Quality Matters: Scrutiny Over Infrastructure and Cleanliness

 

Concerns extend beyond costs and cannabis. Travellers have highlighted issues with Thailand’s tourist infrastructure, particularly the cleanliness of its beaches and the state of public facilities. The pollution in urban areas and the neglected conditions of pavements further erode Thailand's appeal.

 

Overcrowding in tourist hotspots—an issue exacerbated by aggressive tourism campaigns—has also diminished the serene beauty once synonymous with destinations like Phuket and Hua Hin. Additionally, recent events, such as the earthquake and building collapse at Chatuchak market, have raised safety concerns, leaving some wary of staying in high-rise accommodations.

 

Future Directions: Thailand's Path Ahead

 

While current trends point towards dissatisfaction, some locals see this as a chance for reassessment. Reduced tourist numbers could provide an opportunity to rehabilitate the environment and improve the country's infrastructure, focusing on attracting tourists who offer more than fleeting visits and superficial spending.

 

Several tourists express enduring fondness for Thailand, but caution that without significant reforms, the country risks losing market share to competitive neighbours. Future efforts should prioritise restoring cost-effectiveness, simplifying travel processes, and addressing infrastructural shortcomings.

 

In conclusion, maintaining Thailand's global reputation as a must-visit destination requires overcoming these current challenges. Without meaningful change, tourists will continue to explore alternative adventures offered by Thailand's neighbouring countries, which are fast becoming the new darlings of Southeast Asian tourism.

 

  Adapted by ASEAN Now from The Nation 2025-04-30

 

 

 

Air pollution is a major factor for some - no-one in their right mind would book a holiday in the North between January and April

[geisha]

14 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

The Thai did this to themselves. They were only able to maintain the smile before because it wasn't so many people coming.  So most couldn't see that they were being played with a smile. The scams and schemes have always been there. 

 

Forced to breathe filthy air ? No one forces anyone to come to thailand....they already know pollution is a huge issue and still they come. 

 

World class  tourist resorts all over the world do not have the pollution that Thailand has.  That could have been stopped / controlled years ago with traffic rules, proper maintenance, and help given  to the agriculture sector to stop/ reduce the crazy burn season. Thailand takes takes takes, but never invests in tourism. The authorities have no vision whatsoever. 

[geisha]

2 hours ago, VBF said:

For you perhaps, but I prefer to leave such snobbish affectations in the West where they belong.

Simply look to see where the Thai working people go and eat and follow them. Markets, food halls street food etc.

I basically avoid Western food when I'm in Thailand and can still get a delicious dinner in Pattaya for under 100 Baht.

 

Oh and a lot of the flight price rises are not down to Thailand - if you fly from UK for example, look to see how much of your fare is due to TAX  and fees imposed by the UK gov. 

Wherever you are in life, at home or on holidays, everyone has their own preferences. There must be choice for everyone’s tastes, food, aircon  or not. 
The argument is , it is much more expensive for tourists to come to Thailand today. Prices have shot up since Covid, flights, hotels, not necessarily street food. An average nice hotel in Phuket or Pattaya costs over  4 to 5000 baht a night, and are definitely not worthy of being called 4 stars. 

[VBF]

4 minutes ago, geisha said:

Wherever you are in life, at home or on holidays, everyone has their own preferences. There must be choice for everyone’s tastes, food, aircon  or not. 
The argument is , it is much more expensive for tourists to come to Thailand today. Prices have shot up since Covid, flights, hotels, not necessarily street food. An average nice hotel in Phuket or Pattaya costs over  4 to 5000 baht a night, and are definitely not worthy of being called 4 stars. 

Sort of, but, don't you think it is incumbent on you to go where the options suit you, rather than expect your choices to be made available everywhere? IMO, that is a major failing with tourists - going somewhere and not adapting.

 

To go to extremes, otherwise, you'd be expecting the same options in Pattaya as you'd get in Monaco!

That's one of the many reasons I choose Pattaya over Phuket, despite going to Phuket for 20 years, back in the day.

 

Yes, everywhere is more expensive today, sadly, but my point there was that flight prices aren't necessarily the fault of Thailand - re-read my post.

And, I stay in a lovely hotel, rated as 3 star but I think that's optimistic. However it's clean, aircon, WiFi, good pool, friendly staff, just off Soi Bukhau. Walking, Baht bus or Bolt distance to everywhere I like - 1100/night in Feb-April. Works for me!

[Magictoad]

22 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

CM is great.

CM is great if you're gay. It was OK 30 years ago. But now it's a commercial tourist trap for the gay community against whom I have nothing but they have taken the charm out of CM along with smoke & traffic. I have been back to CM 3 times in 30 years just to check it. Once for a big festival. It was atrocious! Really badly organised and dangerous. I have been to festivals all over Thailand and this was the worst one I've ever experienced. There was no crowd control and at times there was serious danger to the people in the crowd.  I plan to go to Kalasin where in small village of Kutwa they have a festival of massive home made rockets.  This is the beginning of the rocket season. Yasothon is the most famous. Bit it's not the best. The biggest rocket festival is in Phanom Phrai where up to 50 thousand people attend with music, dancing,food and rockets. The big rockets are as tall as street lights and require 15 men to carry them and put them in position on the launch pads. So excuse me if I find CM a bit weak. It's not really Thailand to me.

[Magictoad]

2 minutes ago, VBF said:

Sort of, but, don't you think it is incumbent on you to go where the options suit you, rather than expect your choices to be made available everywhere? IMO, that is a major failing with tourists - going somewhere and not adapting.

 

To go to extremes, otherwise, you'd be expecting the same options in Pattaya as you'd get in Monaco!

That's one of the many reasons I choose Pattaya over Phuket, despite going to Phuket for 20 years, back in the day.

 

Yes, everywhere is more expensive today, sadly, but my point there was that flight prices aren't necessarily the fault of Thailand - re-read my post.

And, I stay in a lovely hotel, rated as 3 star but I think that's optimistic. However it's clean, aircon, WiFi, good pool, friendly staff, just off Soi Bukhau. Walking, Baht bus or Bolt distance to everywhere I like - 1100/night in Feb-April. Works for me!

I remember when Phuket was fun but it changed. I hope to God Pattaya doesn't go the same way.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, Magictoad said:

CM is great if you're gay. It was OK 30 years ago. But now it's a commercial tourist trap for the gay community against whom I have nothing but they have taken the charm out of CM along with smoke & traffic. I have been back to CM 3 times in 30 years just to check it. Once for a big festival. It was atrocious! Really badly organised and dangerous. I have been to festivals all over Thailand and this was the worst one I've ever experienced. There was no crowd control and at times there was serious danger to the people in the crowd.  I plan to go to Kalasin where in small village of Kutwa they have a festival of massive home made rockets.  This is the beginning of the rocket season. Yasothon is the most famous. Bit it's not the best. The biggest rocket festival is in Phanom Phrai where up to 50 thousand people attend with music, dancing,food and rockets. The big rockets are as tall as street lights and require 15 men to carry them and put them in position on the launch pads. So excuse me if I find CM a bit weak. It's not really Thailand to me.

CM has great food, great day trips. Most tourists are families. Weird gay comments you made.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, Magictoad said:

I remember when Phuket was fun but it changed. I hope to God Pattaya doesn't go the same way.

Pattaya has lots of gays.

[VBF]

1 minute ago, Magictoad said:

I remember when Phuket was fun but it changed. I hope to God Pattaya doesn't go the same way.

You and me both mate!!!! 👍😎

[Magictoad]

21 minutes ago, geisha said:

Wherever you are in life, at home or on holidays, everyone has their own preferences. There must be choice for everyone’s tastes, food, aircon  or not. 
The argument is , it is much more expensive for tourists to come to Thailand today. Prices have shot up since Covid, flights, hotels, not necessarily street food. An average nice hotel in Phuket or Pattaya costs over  4 to 5000 baht a night, and are definitely not worthy of being called 4 stars. 

I'm looking for flight to the UK ATM but can not stop off in an Arab country 

[VBF]

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Pattaya has lots of gays.

Is that why you go there?

You do seem very concentrated on their presence!

[Harrisfan]

Just now, VBF said:

Is that why you go there?

You do seem very concentrated on their presence!

I never go there. You can have them all.

[VBF]

1 minute ago, Magictoad said:

I'm looking for flight to the UK ATM but can not stop off in an Arab country 

I'm dying to ask why not, but it's none of my business.

Have you looked at the various European airlines, requiring a stop-off?

[cowellandrew]

22 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I don't get this price moaning either. You can get leg of pork with rice for 60 baht, pad thai for 50 baht. Massages are so cheap. What more do people want?

 

It's definitely a thousand times cheaper than in their home countries.

 

And yes, CM is great. Spot on.

Leg of pork?

 

😂😂😂😂🚀☻

[VBF]

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

I never go there. You can have them all.

Not my flavour, but thanks for the offer 😂

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, VBF said:

Not my flavour, but thanks for the offer 😂

So why do you go to Pattaya?

[BritManToo]

26 minutes ago, geisha said:

Wherever you are in life, at home or on holidays, everyone has their own preferences. There must be choice for everyone’s tastes, food, aircon  or not. 
The argument is , it is much more expensive for tourists to come to Thailand today. Prices have shot up since Covid, flights, hotels, not necessarily street food. An average nice hotel in Phuket or Pattaya costs over  4 to 5000 baht a night, and are definitely not worthy of being called 4 stars. 

I just looked on Agoda for accomodation in Chiang Mai, loads for under 400bht/night and half of them had decent pools.

[VBF]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

So why do you go to Pattaya?

I like it there - simple.

Why would you think?

I know you're goading me so bring it on old chap.

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, VBF said:

I like it there - simple.

Why would you think?

I know you're goading me so bring it on old chap.

I think I can guess.

[VBF]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

I think I can guess.

And you'd probably be right.

I've no problem if you don't like the fact that I like the women, the bars and the sleaze.

Adult things for adults!