Community German National Rescued After Reportedly Being Left Homeless in Jomtien

[save the frogs]

12 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Only people who comes to a foreign country and in one way or another ends up with problems.

But that's ridiculous.

Couples don't get nasty divorces where you come from? 

Life often has problems that are beyond our control. 

 

Only on silly forums like this do people come on here and expect all foreigners to have perfect lives free of any problems and then make bold statements like "go back to your country". 

 

[KannikaP]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Unless here on a marriage extension .....

in which case his extension is gone the moment she chucked him out, with 7 days to leave the country.

Will it not be 7 days after divorce is granted. Until then, he's still married.

[dddave]

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I get the impression the poor guy maybe has dementia issues. Seems sad... not everyone has credit cards or ATM cards... a domineering wife could be behind this too. 

 

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I get the impression the poor guy maybe has dementia issues. Seems sad... not everyone has credit cards or ATM cards... a domineering wife could be behind this too. 

Perhaps, but for all we know he could also be an abusive SOB.  We have no clue and no basis to judge.

[Gottfrid]

47 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But that's ridiculous.

Couples don't get nasty divorces where you come from? 

Life often has problems that are beyond our control. 

 

Only on silly forums like this do people come on here and expect all foreigners to have perfect lives free of any problems and then make bold statements like "go back to your country". 

 

No, never posted that. If you have a problem, you take care of it instead of making it worse. If you can´t do that, your better stay in your protected home country. For example, as you say if life is turning into a nasty divorce. Hell yeah, then take you pick and pack and move on, find a hotel room, get some beers and look for greener pastures. If a little bit more complicated and children involved, see to that you have a great relationship with them. That was just one example. Another, out of money? Then it´s no choice. Head home and make new, if possible. Otherwise better at home.

[Gottfrid]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

I haven't made any long winded replies. I just asked you to read them thoroughly, and understand them, before you respond too quickly. Many foreigners, especially if they paid 100% for the house, do own it, along with their wives. If they choose to stay, they can. When they leave, the woman gets the house IF he doesn't want a share in it from a sale. As far as fearing for your safety, we don't know what happened. maybe his wife pulled a knife on him like so many here do, and him, being an older, slight man, maybe not able to defend himself, walked away without thinking. or maybe he was drunk and not in a frame of mind to remember his things, and was threatened.

I think you are mistakenly thinking that a usufruct is same as ownership. Usufruct is not connected to any kind of ownership, but only a right to occupy the building in question. After that, if your wife, who owns the house do not agree to give you part of the sale most times you lose. In that case you have to take it to the court. There it can be stated that you claimed none whatsoever ownership of the money contributed to build the house. So, mostly a very slim chance. 

I can also read that you as a manly man, still puts the blame on his wife.

[fredwiggy]

14 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

I think you are mistakenly thinking that a usufruct is same as ownership. Usufruct is not connected to any kind of ownership, but only a right to occupy the building in question. After that, if your wife, who owns the house do not agree to give you part of the sale most times you lose. In that case you have to take it to the court. There it can be stated that you claimed none whatsoever ownership of the money contributed to build the house. So, mostly a very slim chance. 

I can also read that you as a manly man, still puts the blame on his wife.

I've been here over 7 years, and understand the laws regarding home ownership. In a divorce, or final judgement, the house will be divided by the court and whoever put all into the price of building, gets a high percentage of the sale profit. If both contributed, no matter how much, it will be divided equally. And I put the blame on exactly where it is. I'm not a misogynist but look at women as equals. What you're reading , you're not fully comprehending. Again, so you can read this slowly, I paid 100% for the house, so it's also mine. Hers also because she was living with me when it was built, and married to me at that time.

[Gottfrid]

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I've been here over 7 years, and understand the laws regarding home ownership. In a divorce, or final judgement, the house will be divided by the court and whoever put all into the price of building, gets a high percentage of the sale profit. If both contributed, no matter how much, it will be divided equally. And I put the blame on exactly where it is. I'm not a misogynist but look at women as equals. What you're reading , you're not fully comprehending.

Soo, 7 years. Congratulations! That´s huge! I just been here 27. The laws, are exactly, like I am stating them. Why in the world do you think they want a confirmation that you have no claim on the house nor connection to the money it´s built with at the office you register ownership. Are you in in the Blue book? 😂

[fredwiggy]

19 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Soo, 7 years. Congratulations! That´s huge! I just been here 27. The laws, are exactly, like I am stating them. Why in the world do you think they want a confirmation that you have no claim on the house nor connection to the money it´s built with at the office you register ownership. Are you in in the Blue book? 😂

Again, since you just missed it before. I understand the laws regarding marriage and houses here. I had a lawyer. I got to live in the house. It doesn't matter if you lived here 5 or 30 years. What matters is personal experience in a particular matter, and how much.If someone pays any percentage of a house built here, they are able to get a percentage in a divorce if the house is sold. If someone pays 100%, the house proceeds in a sale mostly go to that person. Receipts from the builder are what counts, and mine are to me, paying the whole deal. If I chose to sell it, and someone buys it, the house can be transferred to the new house owner, with the land still being in the name of the original possessor, because it's still government land. In that case, I would get most of the proceeds from the sale. She would get some, as she was my wife at the time it was built. This will probably not happen anyway, as I'm looking to get money for the house from her so she gets it and we can move, which is fair to everyone involved. I'm thinking the lawyer knows a little more than you do, seeing he does this for a living and you're only asking someone else's opinion.

[KhunLA]

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

You must have funds to support your stay in TH ... so in violation.

 

Guess he's one of those expats that may use an agent, or not.  Wife, and can't even muster up a hotel stay with that 40k a month ... hmm ... oops

Doesn't matter what visa he's on or his circumstances, no residence, no money ... nuff said 

 

... "leaving him with nowhere to go and no means of support" ...

 

 

[Gottfrid]

Yep! There are good and bad lawyers. 😉

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

Will it not be 7 days after divorce is granted. Until then, he's still married.

No, it's 7 days from 'defacto' ending.

And I'm fairly sure throwing him out of the house achieved that.

Only for an extension ...... if it were a VISA, he could stay until the end.

But as a foreigner with dementia, it's not as if he can dispute any deportation.

[KireB]

Poor guy.

This can happen to all of us, as we are getting older, more difficult,nforgetful and in need of help. Not sure how my wife will deal with me when really old. Good that I have children, who will be on the land titles.

 

[Photoguy21]

Always keep the money in your name as the single holder of the account. Never, ever, share you bank account.

[fredwiggy]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

No, it's 7 days from 'defacto' ending.

And I'm fairly sure throwing him out of the house achieved that.

Only for an extension ...... if it were a VISA, he could stay until the end.

But as a foreigner with dementia, it's not as if he can dispute any deportation.

In actuality it's not that simple, and the 7 days is if he's already divorced. He's married so he can stay until his marriage visa expires.  If they decide to divorce, both agreeing, after it's finalized, he can stay until the visa expires. If he has children, he can get a dependent child visa just before his marriage visa expires. If no children and he's old enough, he can get a retirement visa to stay. Just to get a divorce certain conditions have to be met IF it's not a mutual divorce where bot agree to the divorce. These are here.........https://gam-legalalliance.com/services/family-law/grounds-for-divorce/.................This is from Tod Daniels here on AN........

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On 12/16/2022 at 11:46 AM, killblues said:

I’ve been told by a lawyer that it’s ok to use my current visa until it elapses but do I need to let immigration know about the divorce just to be on the safe side ? 

You are totally able to stay IN Thailand on that 90 day entry stamp from the Non-O visa whether you are divorced or not. Even if the reason you got the visa itself changes you are allowed to stay until the entry stamp from it runs out..................When I got my divorce, I just went and got a retirement visa before my 90 days expired, which was over 2 months after the divorce date. I could have also gotten a dependent child visa and stayed. I was pretty sure I was right about this during the divorce proceedings, but I asked my lawyer anyway and he verified it was.

[BritScot]

10 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Unless here on a marriage extension .....

in which case his extension is gone the moment she chucked him out, with 7 days to leave the country.

Who told you that nonsense? He is still married, and e can switch to  a retiredvisa when it's time to renew. If he has children and links in TThailand, hecan stay with no problems. When I lived in Thailand and mmarried, Ichanged my visa from married to retired  because it was less hassle, andI had the income required.  Now in my years of living and working in Thailand I've seen this so many times. I met an English guy, he married a girl, built a house and bought several flats putting everything in her name (idiot) then the second the house was built she kicked him out. He was then forced to stay at friens houses. He wasn't a bum just an idiot and there are a lot who live by "my wife wouldn't do that to me" but the answer is she will eventually.  Give her all the cards and it's a matter of time.

[jacko45k]

17 hours ago, dddave said:

 

Perhaps, but for all we know he could also be an abusive SOB.  We have no clue and no basis to judge.

The phrase in the OP....in a distressed and vulnerable state, having reportedly been evicted from his home by his Thai wife....    was a bit of a clue.

[Tim62]

On 5/5/2025 at 5:49 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

The heading reads..... evicted from his home by his Thai wife without explanation

 

So there is a explanation, the is a penny less, deadbeat.

Maybe this important information should be included in the article 

Do you know this person? Im sure you don't know the reason for his situation, so there's no need to be nasty. 

[Tim62]

21 hours ago, save the frogs said:

But that's ridiculous.

Couples don't get nasty divorces where you come from? 

Life often has problems that are beyond our control. 

 

Only on silly forums like this do people come on here and expect all foreigners to have perfect lives free of any problems and then make bold statements like "go back to your country". 

 

 

21 hours ago, save the frogs said:

But that's ridiculous.

Couples don't get nasty divorces where you come from? 

Life often has problems that are beyond our control. 

 

Only on silly forums like this do people come on here and expect all foreigners to have perfect lives free of any problems and then make bold statements like "go back to your country". 

 

Agree 100%

[hotchilli]

On 5/5/2025 at 5:39 AM, jacko45k said:

I get the impression the poor guy maybe has dementia issues. Seems sad... not everyone has credit cards or ATM cards... a domineering wife could be behind this too. 

Indeed, more to this story than just being kicked out by the missus

[smedly]

22 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

The lesson here obviously is

 

don't get married.

better still "rent" unless of course you have a family then a property is an investment for them if something happens to you,

 

there are not enough details in this story to conclude anything except perhaps he is on some sort of pension which means he has money

[renaissanc]

After reading the article my first thought was about all the heartless comments that will be made about the man, and sure enough there are many already. The Pattaya authorities have shown him  compassion while most posters have not managed to scrape up a speck of basic empathy.

[SAFETY FIRST]

6 minutes ago, renaissanc said:

After reading the article my first thought was about all the heartless comments that will be made about the man, and sure enough there are many already. The Pattaya authorities have shown him  compassion while most posters have not managed to scrape up a speck of basic empathy.

No one is stopping you from showing empathy. Go ahead, 

 

Why complain about others here making comments, are you a born complainer? 

 

 

[factual monk]

Another bloke caught in the web of Love Scam... @ land of smiles

[spidermike007]

My guess would be that this guy just rushed in to something without qualifying her sufficiently. Most men, in the US, Europe, and Oz, are no longer real men, when it comes to dealing with their women. Their women have made their lives so difficult, and alot of women have gotten so far away from their innate femininity, and have become dominant, and super controlling, and men just go along with it. Most men have become so hungry for love, or emotionally desperate for some kindness, and TLC. And most are so desirous of being around a real woman, who knows how to act like a woman, and manifest the dignity, within femininity. So, it is easy for con artists, to take advantage of emotionally wounded men, who seem to be willing to do anything to regain a semblance of normality in their lives, with a decent woman.

 

So always take your time, if it's good it's only going to get better, if it's bad the problems are going to start revealing themselves within a year or two. Never rush into anything, and if she pushes the timetable just push back, and if that doesn't work just walk. 

[fredwiggy]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

My guess would be that this guy just rushed in to something without qualifying her sufficiently. Most men, in the US, Europe, and Oz, are no longer real men, when it comes to dealing with their women. Their women have made their lives so difficult, and alot of women have gotten so far away from their innate femininity, and have become dominant, and super controlling, and men just go along with it. Most men have become so hungry for love, or emotionally desperate for some kindness, and TLC. And most are so desirous of being around a real woman, who knows how to act like a woman, and manifest the dignity, within femininity. So, it is easy for con artists, to take advantage of emotionally wounded men, who seem to be willing to do anything to regain a semblance of normality in their lives, with a decent woman.

 

So always take your time, if it's good it's only going to get better, if it's bad the problems are going to start revealing themselves within a year or two. Never rush into anything, and if she pushes the timetable just push back, and if that doesn't work just walk. 

How does a real man deal with women? I would think the real men are the ones who, yes, are taken advantage of many times, because they look at women as equals, not objects to use and control, dominate over, then leave, but to have a relationship with, which is the main reason we're here on earth. 

 

Stupid women are the ones who scam, are greedy, take advantage of the good men, manipulate them because they can, because a good man should trust his woman, although many aren't to be trusted at all. 

 

Yes, the best way is always taking time to get to know anyone before you commit to a long term relationship, but looks have men falling fast, as that desire is first on a man's mind, besides those who are only in any relationship to use and toss aside, those who aren't real men. 

 

Men go along with being controlled because of those looks. If woman all looked the same, men wouldn't have so many problems with them, as the personality and character would be much more important . The problem lies in attraction, which is first in most relationships, besides the women who don't care about looks but what's behind door number 3. Being hungry for love is a fine attribute, because love is much more important than anything else. Yes, wanting love gets a lot into trouble, as some women are again, not to be trusted.

[Thingamabob]

On 5/5/2025 at 6:37 AM, Celsius said:

Million baht he found his wife at the bar

Perhaps, however I know a number foreign men in Thailand who have been happily married for many years  to former Thai bar girls.

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 5/5/2025 at 5:15 AM, Georgealbert said:

German national was rescued in Jomtien

I reckon we'll see another rescue soon. 

 

Looking for cheap scooter rental, laundry and gym. 

 

OMG 

[riverhigh]

On 5/5/2025 at 5:39 AM, jacko45k said:

I get the impression the poor guy maybe has dementia issues. Seems sad... not everyone has credit cards or ATM cards... a domineering wife could be behind this too. 

Your post makes the most sense. Dementia, domineering wife, no bank cards. Looks undernourished, body deterioriating ... No fun getting old in a foreign country if you can't fend for yourself.

[steven100]

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[steven100]

23 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

The lesson here obviously is

 

don't get married.

I think the lesson goes deeper than that ... never ever trust a thai.