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5 minutes ago, steven100 said:

 

we can surely hope .....  Vietnam is way better than Lieland Thailand in many aspects.   


Oh wow, good one - you said "lieland" instead of "Thailand"!! 

Vietnam isn't a patch on Thailand in many aspects.

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I must say that Hotels are getting pricey in Thailand. Once you add a child to your requirements, the price goes way up more than it should. Having 2 queen beds  in one room seems just way more than the Thais can handle.

 

Living in Thailand I'll continue paying but if I was flying in somewhere for a few weeks VN would spark interest. And they have great coffee.

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12 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Around the area I live you can see the difference it's going quiet, Ive spoke to a few people recently and they all say the same thing, it's quiet, 

I think it's been quiet for quite awhile in Phuket, excluding Christmas/New Year and Chinese New Year.  One of my Thai neighbors is a partner in a restaurant, and he was wondering where all the foreign tourists had gone, especially the Chinese.  He's down 30-40%.  I wanted to be a smart alec and tell him he should read the international news and not Thai news, but I kept quiet.

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It's ok tat will save it saying there's squillions coming hopefully  they will realise that thailand isn't the centre of the universe it will get worse before it gets better while the baht stays high

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Of course--with those numbers-- a lot of guys do come to Thailand for sex scene--- I was in Vietnam last year and it certainly is cheaper then Thailand for most things. I stayed at a hotel in Da Nang beach front about 3-4 star, 1,000 baht a night, decided to have a few beers after being dragged around the markets by the wife, went up to the top floor lounge took a seat overlooking beach had a few tigers new frosty glass each time good service beer 35 baht each (small ) bottle.  Talked with some younger guys who were doing Vietnam after Thailand-- said to them its not so easy to take a girl back to your hotel room here is it--- They told me there are a lot of ways around that rule--- The best being Airbnb which is sometimes less then half the price of Thailand and cheaper then most hotels in Vietnam and in great locations-- and of course if you want to take a guest back---- "Up 2 You"

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And these numbers are before Thailand's latest hoop was in place; TDAC. I love Vietnam's simplistic approach to incomers versus Thailand's convoluted mindset. 

As a practical example on a microcosmic level, I decided to do a number of trips to various Chinese cities in the next couple of years: until I discovered the visa rigmarole entry requirements! 

So it's back to Hoi An, Ha Long Bay & Hanoi for me and GF.

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Get rid of visas, only use TDAC, register & track people coming in using the TM30 , 2000 bht renewal each month.  Any crime committed ban them from Thailand for life

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3 hours ago, LivingNThailand said:

I think it's been quiet for quite awhile in Phuket, excluding Christmas/New Year and Chinese New Year.  One of my Thai neighbors is a partner in a restaurant, and he was wondering where all the foreign tourists had gone, especially the Chinese.  He's down 30-40%.  I wanted to be a smart alec and tell him he should read the international news and not Thai news, but I kept quiet.

Sunday morning I went to check a friend of mine apartment, normally you cannot park inside, but Sunday it was half empty, also the section for bikes was the same, I think this is going to be a real low season, 

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It overtook Thailand already years ago, is not even debatable. Only gonna get worse for TH too. Even better as Vietnam has plenty of economy outside tourism on top. Imagine where they are in a decade.

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5 hours ago, UWEB said:

Changing Immigration Rules like other people changing their Underpants and keeping the Thai Baht artificially strong is taking their toll.

it dropped below 33 to the usd that will hurt them

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My experience past 6 years of travel to Vietnam and 16 years to Thailand...

1. Ease of Visa- Vietnam gives max 3 month evisa and Thai authorities are constantly giving weekly flipflop statements on visa durations.

2. Cost factor- Vietnam hotels are much cheaper as compared to Thailand.

3. Taxi fares and Grab fares are cheaper in Vn.

4. Over hyped value of Thai Baht.

5. Vietnam will definitely surpass Thailand by 2032 onwards... infrastructure is improving, road connectivity, clubbing and booze is cheaper, no lady drink harassment. 

6. Food in Vietnam is not as good/yummy and cheap as in Thailand and as easily available 24 x 7 as in Thailand. 

8. Thailand will continue to attract hordes of sex tourists and still be having higher arrivals but definitely Vietnam is shaping up as a better option for family, solo traveller destination. 

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Recent trip to Thailand noticed the service is variable. Some bars, businesses and restaurants are very welcoming and smiles and staff keen to help. Others are indifferent, little English, too young staff or not fully trained or older impatient ones. Its like being anywhere else sometimes. LOS is no longer as keen to embrace tourists or it tries too hard to extract maximum baht per person. Clearly welcoming and happy staff help the business do well & the Farangs will return to that place.  Also would like more baht to £ and hate those charges at ATM of 230 baht per transaction. 

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1 hour ago, ChipButty said:

Sunday morning I went to check a friend of mine apartment, normally you cannot park inside, but Sunday it was half empty, also the section for bikes was the same, I think this is going to be a real low season, 

But who is driving all those cars, trucks and motorbikes.  Traffic is insanely bad.   Is it just Thai people driving around looking for something to do?   Nuts.  I agree, low low season this year, I just wish the traffic would be comparable.  

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Tax rules taking effect as myself included look for somewhere else to spend six months to avoid becoming tax resident in Thailand? Seems the Thai government is not addressing this cause.

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It's happening and ain't nothing Thailand can do about it... Better food, safer/fewer idiot tourist thumbing there nose at the rule of law (thanks to strict communist rule), and prettier ladies. Game, set, match.

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