6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Now his supporters are going to talk about what a great negotiator he is and what a great deal maker he is, completely forgetting about the fact that he cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag and he's had an insane number of business failures. The vast majority of his money has been earned through grifting and theft. 

 

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. 

 

And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others.

 

And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

 

Yet, Trump is more successful than you. 

1 hour ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

What a nice crowd.

 

No blue hair screaming women overdosing on antidepressants.

 

No drag queens, trans holding signs.

 

No leftist indoctrinated college students having meltdowns

 

No Antifa or BLM paid protestors.

 

What a difference a flight makes.

 

Go Trump

 

  Yep, death by public beheading will stop a lot of that.

13 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Now his supporters are going to talk about what a great negotiator he is and what a great deal maker he is, completely forgetting about the fact that he cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag and he's had an insane number of business failures. The vast majority of his money has been earned through grifting and theft. 

 

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. 

 

And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others.

 

And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

More like the "Art of the Trump Effect & WINNING".

Hey haters....How ya doin.... LOL

 

 

 

Funny how many people slag off Saudi, and I am no lover of the country, but have probably never been there. They have a very safe country because of the laws they have and use. Something the West can not say.

3 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Funny how many people slag off Saudi, and I am no lover of the country, but have probably never been there. They have a very safe country because of the laws they have and use. Something the West can not say.

To be true, I have always enjoyed traveling in muslim countries and areas. They have always been really good hosts for me personally and also for the sport and activities we have done. 

 

When that said, being a local without privileges, or even worse a Labour worker from a 3. country? 

 

 

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

To be true, I have always enjoyed traveling in muslim countries and areas. They have always been really good hosts for me personally and also for the sport and activities we have done. 

 

When that said, being a local without privileges, or even worse a Labour worker from a 3. country? 

 

 

I agree they were 3rd world but compared to Europe more like 1st world

29 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Typical hater response, devoid of all common sense. But, maybe your comment can be likened to that family of 8, or maybe it was 10 Afghanis going to a picnic that Biden evaporated with an over-the-horizon tomahawk....or the American citizen(s) Obama assassinated in a drone strike, or the millions killed during the 20 year, $2T, Afghan war the US waged on the Taliban just to replace the Taliban with the Taliban...LOL Like that? 

 

  Sorry...this thread is about Saudi Arabia.  So I guess you've got nothing related to the topic to post.

 

  It's not about Afghanistan or Obama or the Taliban.

 

  Typical MAGA ADHD response.  Very appropriate username, "Ill is Dean".

19 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Yet, Trump is more successful than you. 

That's exactly the point. 

Trump makes people feel inferior.

He does rub his success and power in people's faces with an arrogant personality. 

Hence one reason x per cent of haters exist. Just purely based on Trump's magnanimous success and arrogance. 

Regardless what he does, once these negative emotions are engaged, nobody cares about debate. 

 

 

11 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

“Trump makes people feel inferior.”

 

No, only you and those like you.

 

Welcome back to the toxic threads.

 

I'm not one of the people constantly bashing Trump.

 

We need a "Psychology of Why People Hate Trump So Much" thread .... which I might start soon. 

 

Put my Carl Jung knowledge to use. 

 

11 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Why does he do that to you?

maybe if I had to sit in the same room with Trump, he would get under my skin.

not sure.

 

9 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

This is video is all about you.

 

 

Wait, what? They made a Youtube video all about me??

OK, that does it - OnlyFans it is!!

On 5/14/2025 at 2:19 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Like the Moscow mayor, CCP officials and Ukranian oligarchs that were all paying him unaccountable millions? Oh, no sorry, that was YOUR man.

Why fret about corrupt dictators now? 4 years too late Mike.

Even if any of that was remotely true, Biden is history. Trump is the current corrupt man in power. If you keep saying 'but but but' then nothing will change. Why not make a fresh, determined start to clean up politics by incarcerating the Trump crime family? 

6 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Even if any of that was remotely true, Biden is history. Trump is the current corrupt man in power. If you keep saying 'but but but' then nothing will change. Why not make a fresh, determined start to clean up politics by incarcerating the Trump crime family? 

Because they didn't do anything wrong beyond destroying team woke at the ballot box? Btw not surprised to see you squirming when reminded of the 4 years of pushing disinformation and calling those on the side of fact a "cult". I'd be mortified if I did it.

9 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Because they didn't do anything wrong beyond destroying team woke at the ballot box? Btw not surprised to see you squirming when reminded of the 4 years of pushing disinformation and calling those on the side of fact a "cult". I'd be mortified if I did it.

 

“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” — Thomas Jefferson

 

 

6 minutes ago, darbie-foos said:

 

Seems like a whole lotta ducks getting lined up in a row. The worlds biggest & most beautiful line of ducks ever seen? Amazing work proving the wokies wrong about everything Mr.Trump, just perfect. More success in 2 months than the decomposing Biden had in 4 years.

On 5/14/2025 at 12:45 PM, Lewie London said:

Oh bravo, Donald John. Absolute masterstroke, mate. Nothing says ‘world peace’ quite like flogging $142 billion worth of top-shelf death machines to a bloke who treats dissent like it’s a piñata party. MBS must’ve thought Christmas came early when Trump showed up: jets, bombs, drones, the works. All gift-wrapped in American exceptionalism and dipped in KFC mashed potato gravy. And they still call it a “strategic partnership.” Yeah, strategic in the same way giving a toddler a flamethrower is “educational.”

 

Let’s not forget who we’re dealing with here. Saudi Arabia. The country with a human rights record that makes North Korea look like a mindfulness retreat. These are the lads who drop airstrikes on school buses and weddings in Yemen like they’re playing Call of Duty on cocaine. And now we’ve decided they need more gear? Brilliant. What could possibly go wrong?

 

So now he’s singlehandedly solved the Middle East with a few tanks and a dodgy handshake from MBS, that’s Mohammed bin “saw a journalist in half” Salman, for the uninitiated. Then they rolled out the lavender carpet for him. Not red, mind you. Lavender. Real subtle, innit. Looked like Liberace had spewed royalty all over the runway. And Trump’s there lapping it up like an oversized Pomeranian in a tiara. Then he waddles into Riyadh like he’s Gandalf the Peacebringer, arms outstretched. Mate, they weren’t welcoming a statesman. They were measuring him up for a gold-plated yes-man trophy. All that pomp, all that fanfare, and for what? So Raytheon and Lockheed can cash in like it’s Black Friday in hell.

 

This ain’t about strategy. This is about sales. Corporate Christmas. They’re not solving conflicts. They’re investing in them. Bombs now, reconstruction later. A full-service business model. Meanwhile, Donnie’s grinning like a lunatic, signing away weapons like he’s doing a two-for-one on nukes at Aldi.

 

And what’s the endgame here? Strengthen our allies? Please. We’ve been down this road. Gave Saddam the tools. Next thing he’s gassing villages. Armed the Mujahideen. Next thing they’re flying planes into buildings. But no, this time it’ll be different. This time we’re arming responsibly. Like giving a chainsaw to a fox and saying, “Now don’t go mad with it.”

 

You’d think someone might raise an eyebrow. But nah. Trump's base is too busy wetting themselves over “America First” while their tax dollars are funding the arms race version of a garage sale in the Middle East. No schools, no healthcare, but don’t worry lads, Saudi’s got guided missiles coming out their ears.

 

Honestly mate, if irony were a weapon, Trump’d have already started World War Three.

Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia; when you give your answer, I'll tell you how many contracts over how many years I did?

10 hours ago, darbie-foos said:

 

Heres Biden thinking he could compete with Trump. Made a total jacka$$ of himself during the CNN debate in June 2024 and got his feckless a$$ tossed from the ticket by the DNC. No bigger loser than Biden! 

 

 

Trump ....the ME phenomenon.

 

 

meanwhile in UAE.

 

 

Trump EFFECT--WINNING

(now do biden and impress us all, nah....just have a good laff at him)

 

 

Multiple off topic deflection posts removed

 

@illisdean this topic is “The Art of Saudi Dementia”

the art of the trump effect. Outstanding leader! The only dementia addled soul is that of bidens rotting, decomposing existence and what remains of it.

 

 

6 minutes ago, darbie-foos said:

the art of the trump effect. Outstanding leader! The only dementia addled soul is that of bidens rotting, decomposing existence and what remains of it.

 

 

Says the famous Zeke  Gary! 🤣

don lives in fear of dementia like his dad

 

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-lives-fear-dementia-35241198.amp
 

 

On 5/15/2025 at 4:47 PM, safarimike11 said:

Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia; when you give your answer, I'll tell you how many contracts over how many years I did?

 

 

I remember the Al-Yamamah arms deal. In the end, BAE plea bargained and was fined $400 million. I know how corruption does in that world. I have the Wedgewood and Edinburgh Crystal as proof of corrupt practices impacting the British military. BAE's ban was lifted in 2020, and the then 45th President fired the then Inspector General, Steve Linock, after he declared an emergency to lift a ban on arms sales to the Kingdom, despite Congressional objections.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-official-tried-bully-fired-watchdog-looking-saudi-arms-sales

 

Always the danger is that the Saudi government is quite unstable, as the King ages. Iran had acquired the latest kit just before the Shah was booted out, while away getting medical treatment.

On 5/15/2025 at 10:47 PM, safarimike11 said:

Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia; when you give your answer, I'll tell you how many contracts over how many years I did?

Litton Saudi Defense Project: 1986-88, Peace Hawk Project: 1988-1990, Peace Shield Program (C4I) 1991- 2005. However, going on the 4 pages of replies on this subject, it appears it comes down to whether you are a Republican or Democrat supporter - with the majority of replies indicating the latter. My own view is that if Donny had secured a second win in 2020 that you would not have had the resurgence of a stronger Iran and the resultant side effects: October 7th (2023), the ongoing problem of Hezbolah in Lebanon or the rise of the Houties in Yemen - which is now all but been put to sleep, thanks to Donny (and Bibi).