3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Within the next 18 months or so, Im going to migrate to 5 Months USA and the rest split between Europe and Thailand/Cambodia. That much time in the USA necessitates I rearm.

 

Walking around with my pants dragging from just a cell phone (my butt has migrated to my belly) leads me to believe that my days of carrying a BHP or 1911 anywhere on my waist are over. Thats for under the seat.

 

In the past I have carried various pocket pistols, mostly Seecamps but also things like Budischowsky TP-70, Walther TP-22, Colt 1908, etc

 

Revolvers are too bulky, as are the old tip up Berettas. I dont classify early FN and Colt .32s as "pocket".

 

Any suggestions for a pocket pistol other than the Seecamps?  Has anyone worked with the Ruger LCP in terms of accuracy and function? Is anyone pocket carrying a NAA 22 mag? Anything new I should look at, Ive been away from guns for several years.

 

Obviously you belong to the warmonger section. 

I would recommend to stop any nonsense about arms. Who wants to be a potential murderer, with a gun in the pocket? And think about it to extend your stay in US. 😕

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

No not at all, an armed society is a polite society

Albeit sadly, with a regular body count of slaughtered schoolchildren.

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

No not at all, an armed society is a polite society

 

That might be so, but you stated:

 

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That much time in the USA necessitates I rearm

 

If American society is that polite, then its not necessary to "rearm"? Millions of Americans choose not to arm (polls indicate only 1 in 3 actually professes to own a gun, most, for various reasons). In my experience living and working there, you don't actually "need" a gun to get by in life.

 

Americans tend to say they find the British incredibly polite.

 

It sounds like you are scared stiff of walking the streets of America, or the bits of American that you frequent, unless tooled up. A gun is necessitated, in your view, in the US, but, by dint, is not necessary in Europe.

 

This is entirely a different discussion from having the ability to have a side arm. Czech Republic, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Switzerland and Italy do have carry permits, after a lot of hoops to jump through (quite rightly). If you are receiving actual death threats, or there is something about your job, you can get a CCW for Austria. Of course, in Northern Ireland, members of the security forces and certain other Crown servants will always have a side arm on them, on duty and off duty.

 

Personally, I think this is a wind up post, posted deliberately to be provocative, on a forum where most members are not Americans. You will get a more reliable set of answers on specialist gun forum, where participants might be more familiar with current regulations and models, compared to expatriates with varying experiences.

 

 

 

 

27 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

OK, got it thats the only one you have handled. You guys got any Nowegian 1911s? Big bucks LOL

You can't just behave do you 😁 insults is your way no matter what, and make impulsive conclusions. No, have wide experience with weapons, grow up with my grandfather, my father, and my brother who brought home new weapons every weekend for test (got our own shooting range), but for your criteria only this is the best tiny little thing I handled. Grips suits men, but also suitable for men/girls with small hands.

3 minutes ago, MicroB said:

You will get a more reliable set of answers on specialist gun forum, where participants might be more familiar with current regulations and models, compared to expatriates with varying experiences.

The Americans here are gonna be older and not scared of guns. Im not into the style of dedicated gun forums, far too many fanboys.

 

Thanks for your input.

Just buy a water pistol.

Cheaper, and they can also be scary.

It all depends upon what they are filled with.

 

31 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Presumably you would be getting a license for it and to carry it? How exactly would that work as I cant see you being authorised to carry a gun unless you are police or in the army.

Depends where I live. Some places license are optional so I would probably get one just for reciprocity.

7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Depends where I live. Some places license are optional so I would probably get one just for reciprocity.

In Thailand? Where exactly would they be? USA yes I know you have the right to carry a gun in most if not all states but Thailand isnt the USA

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Within the next 18 months or so, Im going to migrate to 5 Months USA and the rest split between Europe and Thailand/Cambodia. That much time in the USA necessitates I rearm.

 

 

 

 

Where do you plan on living?  Chicago or Detroit?  

3 hours ago, bubblegum said:

So the USA is a really dangerous place?

No really.  Just avoid the big blue cities. 

2 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Hope you realize that having a gun for self defence and killing an "attacker" makes you a murderer.

If someone breaks into my house, it will be bang!

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

About smaller cheaper arms, it comes down to grip options and stability for precision. It is an individual experience and feeling for being confident and reliable when it needs.

 

However, I would move to a place where guns was not needed. 

 

Thailand.

54 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Presumably you would be getting a license for it and to carry it? How exactly would that work as I cant see you being authorised to carry a gun unless you are police or in the army.

 

 

People in free states can obtain a Concealed Carry permit. 

2 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Thailand.

Exactly, if you need a gun in Thailand you are up to sone dodgy stuff, or just plain paranoid 

27 minutes ago, JAG said:

Albeit sadly, with a regular body count of slaughtered schoolchildren.

 

The full quote, from a sci fi novella, is often truncated, to change the meaning.

 

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Well, in the first place an armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. For me, politeness is a sine qua non of civilization. That’s a personal evaluation only. But gunfighting has a strong biological use. We do not have enough things to kill off the weak and the stupid these days. But to stay alive as an armed citizen a man has to be either quick with his wits or with his hands, preferably both. It’s a good thing.

 

 

The quote is attributed to Robert Heinlein, and used as a justification for carrying a firearm. However, its a quote from a character he created. 

 

The character is the product of generations of eugenics, essentially, a Master Race. Genetic manipulation has extended life spans such that overpopulation becomes a concern, and dueling is reintroduced as a means of population control. The character believes shooting someone is a good way to weed out the inferior and untermenschen. The whole purpose of the paragraph isn't that guns made society safer but it made society more dangerous for the slow witted, the inferior, the sick, the elderly, the young. "Beyond This Horizon" really is an account of a dystopian Darwinian nightmare, where to be murdered is proof of inferiority, and to be the murderer is to be exalted (and to be unarmed is to be shunned). In this book, to be polite actually means to be terrified, so Heinlein was trying to be clever, like Orwell, with Double Speak.

 

So its a nonsense quote, only half of it remembered. It can be picked apart considering historic evidence. Was Iraq, post Saddam Hussein, full of incredibly polite people with guns (Arabs can be very polite, but its not because of the guns). Similarly Mogadishu in the 1980s.

 

Hence this is probably a wind up posting, not really about pistols per se, because the OP was all too ready to spout back the quasi-political stance, rather than actually anything practical. I have friends who have many guns, for many purposes, so I am fairly neutral about gun control. I am not opposed to gun ownership. Many literery quotes can be wheeled out to support gun ownership, but quoting a pacifist Sci-Fi novel is not the way.

 

 

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Within the next 18 months or so, Im going to migrate to 5 Months USA and the rest split between Europe and Thailand/Cambodia. That much time in the USA necessitates I rearm.

 

Walking around with my pants dragging from just a cell phone (my butt has migrated to my belly) leads me to believe that my days of carrying a BHP or 1911 anywhere on my waist are over. Thats for under the seat.

 

In the past I have carried various pocket pistols, mostly Seecamps but also things like Budischowsky TP-70, Walther TP-22, Colt 1908, etc

 

Revolvers are too bulky, as are the old tip up Berettas. I dont classify early FN and Colt .32s as "pocket".

 

Any suggestions for a pocket pistol other than the Seecamps?  Has anyone worked with the Ruger LCP in terms of accuracy and function? Is anyone pocket carrying a NAA 22 mag? Anything new I should look at, Ive been away from guns for several years.

 

Ive never considered buying a gun, and i dont understand the culture around them. But i would much rather get shot than stabbed

17 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Where do you plan on living?  Chicago or Detroit?  

 

In "Da Hood" by the sounds of it. He needs a Mac 10.

 

 

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Rollin' in my 5.0
With the ragtop down so my hair can blow
The girlies on standby, wavin' just to say hi
“Did you stop?” No, I just drove by
Kept on, pursuin' to the next stop
I busted a left and I'm headin' to the next block
The block was dead, yo, so I continued to
A1A Beachfront Avenue
Girls were hot wearing less than bikinis
Rockman lovers driving Lamborghinis
Jealous, 'cause I'm out getting mine
Shay with a gauge and Vanilla with a 9
Ready for the chumps on the wall
The chumps acting ill because they're full of eight ball
Gunshots ranged out like a bell
I grabbed my 9, all I heard were shells
Falling on the concrete real fast
Jumped in my car, slammed on the gas
Bumper to bumper, the avenue's packed
I'm trying to get away before the jackers jack

 

29 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Where do you plan on living?  Chicago or Detroit?  

I would only carry it in larger cities if I had to go to one.

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Really? Go to the hardware store and buy a shotgun then?

Why would anyone in their right mind want to do that?

Just now, Yagoda said:

I would only carry it in larger cities if I had to go to one.

 

Carrying in the large blue cities is illegal for the most part.  

Just now, Hamus Yaigh said:

Why would anyone in their right mind want to do that?

Coyotes eating your chickens? Burglaries in the neighborhood? Bears? Cougars? Vermin? Hunting?

Just now, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Carrying in the large blue cities is illegal for the most part.  

Depends on the state and its a pocket pistol.

36 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

4 hours ago, bubblegum said:

So the USA is a really dangerous place?

No really.  Just avoid the big blue cities. 

For the last fifteen years, Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama have consistently had the highest per capita murder rates in the USA. You would never know this fact, if you listen to FOX news or any right wing media companies.

Of the top ten states, that have the highest murder rates in the US, eight are RED States. 

35 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Where do you plan on living?  Chicago or Detroit?  

 

A guy is in a bar in Detroit and he meets a Brit 

 

"Where are you from?'

 

"Newcastle"

 

"What state is that in?"

 

"About the same as here"

3 minutes ago, Dcheech said:

Eight of the US states with the highest murder rates per capita are RED States. 

Very high Black population. Take out the city stats.

1 minute ago, Dcheech said:

For the last fifteen years, Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama have consistently had the highest per capita murder rates in the USA. You would never know this fact, if you listen to FOX news or any right wing media companies.

Eight of the US states with the highest murder rates per capita are RED States. 

 

Which city had the highest number of homicides in 2024?   You must watch MSNBC. 

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Coyotes eating your chickens? Burglaries in the neighborhood? Bears? Cougars? Vermin? Hunting?

You mean shooting to kill with a gun. Why would anyone in their right mind want to do that?

Just now, VocalNeal said:

 

A guy is in a bar in Detroit and he meets a Brit 

 

"Where are you from?'

 

"Newcastle"

 

"What state is that in?"

 

"About the same as here"

Does that mean that Newcastle is as bad as Detroit?

4 minutes ago, Dcheech said:

For the last fifteen years, Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama have consistently had the highest per capita murder rates in the USA. You would never know this fact, if you listen to FOX news or any right wing media companies.

Eight of the US states with the highest murder rates per capita are RED States. 

 

Let me drop you off in SE DC or a specific area of Chicago.   Shall we go for a ride? 

1 minute ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

You mean shooting to kill with a gun. Why would anyone in their right mind want to do that?

What are you supposed to do, ask them to stop?  Politely?