10 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

 

I don’t mean to stereotype your last comments, but in my experience, people who’ve struggled with substance dependency often compare their usage to someone else who uses even more of the substance, or they’ll downplay how long they used it at such high levels as a way to normalize it.

 

That said, what matters most is the direction you’re heading now. I’ve always believed life is about balance and moderation. Even the essentials: things like food, water, sleep, and exercise can become harmful when taken to extremes. So when it comes to a mind-altering substance, especially at very high levels, I find it hard to understand how it could be seen as acceptable, let alone useful or necessary. From the outside, it does seem more like outright abuse. Just like with overeating, it’s difficult to see any long-term benefit or necessity in that kind of excess. Anyway, hopefully all that remains in your rear-view mirror now. 

 

No worries I was just giving an example of people ive seen. As you said you didnt know that kind of use was possible. 

 

I initially started cannabis to help with ptsd. Not for recreation. But as my access grew so did my intake. 

On 5/31/2025 at 10:26 AM, blaze master said:

We're all addicted some form of emotion. There was a movie a while back called what the bleep do we know. Talks about all this. 

 

This was quite interesting, especially the parts with Joe Dispenza. The movie was made 20 years ago, the people behind it subsequently got pulled into the inner circle of the more recent NXIVM sex cult. 

On 5/31/2025 at 1:04 AM, blaze master said:

 

No cud just liked it. Do you say that someone who smokes cigs daily has cig use disorder. 

 

Quit for a number of reasons. Mostly personal which im not willing to share. One I will share is knowing it will limit me access to more women. I loved smoking weed. But I love pussy.

 

Also...it just wasn't doing anything for me anymore. Didn't feel any different after I smoked so I didnt see a point in going on with it. 

 

"No cud just liked it. Do you say that someone who smokes cigs daily has cig use disorder". 

 

DSM-5, The US handbook of problematic mental stuff, classes it as a "Disorder":

 

https://www.theravive.com/therapedia/tobacco-use-disorder-dsm--5-305.1-(z72.0)-(f17.200)

 

I consider my own cig smoking for 10 years (16-26) as an addiction.......and stupid

 

I consider any cig smoker I encounter to be an addict.......and stupid.

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

"No cud just liked it. Do you say that someone who smokes cigs daily has cig use disorder". 

 

DSM-5, The US handbook of problematic mental stuff, classes it as a "Disorder".

 

https://www.theravive.com/therapedia/tobacco-use-disorder-dsm--5-305.1-(z72.0)-(f17.200)

 

I consider my own use of it for 10 years (16-26) as an addiction.

 

I consider any smoker I encounter to be an addict.

 

 

 

 

And shaky leg syndrome ? Published in the same book.

 

With your second statement thats quite a broad brush to paint. For instance my 65 year old neighbor smokes once or twice a month. 

 

Is he an addict?

 

Life is much more complex than the small boxes you have put it in. 

33 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

No worries I was just giving an example of people ive seen. As you said you didnt know that kind of use was possible. 

 

I initially started cannabis to help with ptsd. Not for recreation. But as my access grew so did my intake. 

Anyway, do you think your level of use is/was potentially harmful?

 

I was curious, so I asked ChatGPT the following:

 

Is there anything potentially permanently harmful about consuming 10 g of cannabis per day consistently for around eight years?
 

The answer, FWIW:

 

Yes, consuming 10 grams of cannabis per day consistently for around eight years can potentially lead to permanent or long-term harm, depending on several factors including the method of consumption, THC potency, and individual health. Here are some key concerns:

 

1. Cognitive and Mental Health Effects
    •    Memory and attention deficits: Long-term heavy cannabis use is linked to persistent problems with short-term memory, attention, and executive function. These issues may not fully resolve after quitting.
    •    IQ decline: Some studies suggest a decline in IQ when heavy use begins in adolescence, although this is less clear in adult-onset users.
    •    Psychosis and schizophrenia risk: High THC exposure is associated with a significantly increased risk of psychosis, especially in people with a genetic predisposition or who start young.
    •    Anxiety, depression, and amotivation: Heavy use is linked to long-term mood disorders and reduced motivation (sometimes called amotivational syndrome), although causality is debated.

 

2. Cannabis Use Disorder (CUD)
    •    Using 10 grams per day is far beyond the threshold typically associated with CUD. This condition involves tolerance, withdrawal, loss of control, and continued use despite harm. Severe CUD can be debilitating and often requires treatment.

 

3. Respiratory and Cardiovascular Harm (if smoked)
    •    Smoking that much cannabis daily can lead to chronic bronchitis, lung damage, and possibly increased cardiovascular strain. Long-term exposure to smoke (even cannabis) contains many of the same harmful compounds as tobacco.

 

4. Impact on Daily Life and Functioning
    •    Long-term heavy users often report:
    •    Decreased motivation
    •    Impaired job or academic performance
    •    Strained relationships
    •    Financial stress due to the cost of sustaining high use

 

5. THC-Induced Neurotoxicity
    •    Very high doses of THC over long periods may have neurotoxic effects, particularly in the hippocampus and prefrontal cortex, which regulate memory and decision-making. Some damage may be irreversible depending on the extent.

 

6. Liver and Metabolic Concerns (especially with edibles or concentrates)
    •    Chronic exposure to cannabinoids may alter liver enzyme function or metabolic processing, particularly if combined with other substances like alcohol or medications.

Summary

While some effects of cannabis are reversible after cessation, heavy daily use at 10 grams per day for years carries a high risk of lasting cognitive, psychological, and functional damage, especially if use began at a young age. The risk of developing a severe cannabis use disorder is extremely high at that level of consumption. Anyone using cannabis at this level should strongly consider medical evaluation and support for harm reduction or cessation.

Me: 

 

Is there anything potentially permanently damaging or harmful physically or mentally from consuming 10 g of cannabis per day consistently for approximately eight years?

 

Grok:

Consuming 10 grams of cannabis per day for eight years is a significant level of chronic use, and there are potential physical and mental health risks associated with it. Below, I’ll outline the key considerations based on available evidence, keeping the response concise yet comprehensive.

 

Physical Health Risks
    1    Respiratory Issues: If the cannabis is smoked, long-term heavy use can lead to chronic bronchitis, coughing, and increased risk of lung infections. Smoking cannabis involves inhaling tar and carcinogens similar to tobacco, which may contribute to lung damage over time. Vaping or edibles may reduce this risk but don’t eliminate it entirely due to potential irritants.
    2    Cardiovascular Effects: Cannabis can increase heart rate and blood pressure, which may pose risks for individuals with pre-existing heart conditions. Chronic use might elevate the risk of cardiovascular events, though evidence is mixed and depends on individual factors like age and health status.
    3    Immune System: Some studies suggest heavy cannabis use may suppress immune function, potentially increasing susceptibility to infections, though this is less conclusive.
    4    Gastrointestinal Issues: High doses, especially via edibles, can cause digestive issues like nausea, vomiting, or cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome (CHS), a condition linked to chronic use involving severe nausea and vomiting.

 

Mental Health Risks
    1    Cognitive Impairment: Long-term heavy cannabis use is associated with potential deficits in memory, attention, and executive function. These effects may be more pronounced with high-potency THC products and may not fully reverse even after cessation, particularly if use began in adolescence.
    2    Mental Health Disorders: Chronic heavy use is linked to an increased risk of anxiety, depression, and psychosis, especially in those with a genetic predisposition (e.g., family history of schizophrenia). The risk of cannabis use disorder (addiction) is also significant, with studies estimating 20-30% of daily users develop dependence.
    3    Motivation and Social Functioning: Amotivational syndrome, characterized by reduced drive and productivity, is sometimes reported, though its causal link to cannabis is debated. Social and occupational functioning may also be impacted due to cognitive or behavioral changes.

 

Other Considerations
    •    Tolerance and Dependence: Consuming 10 grams daily suggests high tolerance, which may lead to withdrawal symptoms (irritability, insomnia, appetite loss) if use is stopped abruptly.
    •    Potency Matters: The THC content of the cannabis (e.g., high-potency strains or concentrates) significantly influences risks. Higher THC levels are more likely to cause adverse effects compared to lower-potency products or CBD-dominant strains.
    •    Individual Factors: Age, genetics, mental health history, and method of consumption (smoking, vaping, edibles) play a role in outcomes. Younger users (under 25) are at higher risk for cognitive and mental health impacts due to ongoing brain development.
    
Evidence Gaps
While studies link heavy cannabis use to these risks, long-term data on extremely high doses (10 g/day) is limited. Most research focuses on moderate use or lower quantities, so the full extent of damage at this level is less certain. Additionally, co-use of tobacco, alcohol, or other substances (common among heavy cannabis users) can compound risks.

Recommendations

    •    Medical Evaluation: Consult a healthcare provider for a comprehensive assessment, including lung function, cardiovascular health, and mental health screening, to identify any existing damage.
    •    Reduction or Cessation: Gradually reducing use under medical supervision can mitigate withdrawal and help assess reversibility of effects. Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) may help manage dependence.
    •    Safer Consumption: If continuing use, consider switching to edibles or vaporizing to reduce lung exposure, and prioritize lower-THC or balanced THC/CBD products.

3 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

Anyway, do you think your level of use is/was potentially harmful?

 

Possibly. However most of the points listed i have not experienced those effects.

 

1.short term memory loss yes. I wasn't a heavy user in my youth so that other  part is not relevant.

 

2. As I spoke about before I dont buy or believe cud. That *science* and many others in that area are quite subjective.  So many factors go into each individual and their life.

 

3. My medical records and history show no sign of any of the conditions

My lung capacity is normal and I only ever had a cough from cigs. I've never had bronchitis or any form of lung issue. I rarely even get sick. Never spent a single night in the hospital

 

4. All points in 4 are nothing that has happened in my life. I graduated school and worked my professional career while doing so. I excelled at my job and the demand for my service showed as such. I never had any financial issues regarding my use. Paid my mortgage loved my wife and raised a family. I have a great relationship with my close family. Never known most of the others as they are in Scotland. So I cant speak on that as I dont have the experience. I had great friends growing up. Came from a smaller city and we all grew up together. Same schools etc. We were all smokers as well. Many of those friends continue to this day. Some are very successful and others not so much. Many other factors contribute to the way we all develop.

 

5. Somewhat with my short term memory. Long term no. Weather or not that short term memory effect will be long term is to be determined. If you can recover most of the damage from smoking cigs then I dont see why the same wouldn't apply with cannabis.

 

6. I dont drink or take any medications. Never had to. I've only ever broken bones. Many of them. All of my health checks and tests for the last 20 years have come back within normal ranges for my age. I eat quite decent and exercise daily so I will assume that has helped in this area. I also quit drinking alcohol a long time ago.

 

I was also very active with sports when I was younger. Excelling in many areas. Gold medals. Championships etc. I was a 5 or 6 handicap at golf by the time I was 20. This would indicate that there was minimal effect on cognitive abilities and decision making etc. 

 

School was quite easy for me. High school and college. Maybe if I was not smoking I would of done better. There is an argument to be made with that.

 

Im not saying I have had 0 effect that would be disingenuous. However the human body is quite resilient. At 48 I feel just as strong and healthy as ever. 

 

Also the brain can work in very mysterious ways and is quite resilient. Take the placeno effect for instance.

 

A good outlook on life can also help in many ways. Law of attraction kind of thing. 

 

I am really enjoying the dreams though. Last night I was a superstar in a zombie outbreak. 😁 

 

One last thing. The ai answer you got only came from parameters that a human inputted. So I take it with a grain of salt. 

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, blaze master said:

Possibly. However most of the points listed i have not experienced those effects.

 

1.short term memory loss yes. I wasn't a heavy user in my youth so that other  part is not relevant.

 

2. As I spoke about before I dont buy or believe cud. That *science* and many others in that area are quite subjective.  So many factors go into each individual and their life.

 

3. My medical records and history show no sign of any of the conditions

My lung capacity is normal and I only ever had a cough from cigs. I've never had bronchitis or any form of lung issue. I rarely even get sick. Never spent a single night in the hospital

 

4. All points in 4 are nothing that has happened in my life. I graduated school and worked my professional career while doing so. I excelled at my job and the demand for my service showed as such. I never had any financial issues regarding my use. Paid my mortgage loved my wife and raised a family. I have a great relationship with my close family. Never known most of the others as they are in Scotland. So I cant speak on that as I dont have the experience. I had great friends growing up. Came from a smaller city and we all grew up together. Same schools etc. We were all smokers as well. Many of those friends continue to this day. Some are very successful and others not so much. Many other factors contribute to the way we all develop.

 

5. Somewhat with my short term memory. Long term no. Weather or not that short term memory effect will be long term is to be determined. If you can recover most of the damage from smoking cigs then I dont see why the same wouldn't apply with cannabis.

 

6. I dont drink or take any medications. Never had to. I've only ever broken bones. Many of them. All of my health checks and tests for the last 20 years have come back within normal ranges for my age. I eat quite decent and exercise daily so I will assume that has helped in this area. I also quit drinking alcohol a long time ago.

 

I was also very active with sports when I was younger. Excelling in many areas. Gold medals. Championships etc. I was a 5 or 6 handicap at golf by the time I was 20. This would indicate that there was minimal effect on cognitive abilities and decision making etc. 

 

School was quite easy for me. High school and college. Maybe if I was not smoking I would of done better. There is an argument to be made with that.

 

Im not saying I have had 0 effect that would be disingenuous. However the human body is quite resilient. At 48 I feel just as strong and healthy as ever. 

 

Also the brain can work in very mysterious ways and is quite resilient. Take the placeno effect for instance.

 

A good outlook on life can also help in many ways. Law of attraction kind of thing. 

 

I am really enjoying the dreams though. Last night I was a superstar in a zombie outbreak. 😁 

 

One last thing. The ai answer you got only came from parameters that a human inputted. So I take it with a grain of salt. 

 

By the way, have you ever reflected on how you viewed your usage? I imagine it may have started out as therapeutic, especially given the PTSD you mentioned, but over time it seems like it may have shifted, possibly moving into more recreational use, then dependency, and eventually into a pattern that could be seen as abusive.

 

If you haven’t already, I think one helpful step might be to acknowledge that consuming 10 grams a day is, by any standard, excessive and likely falls into the realm of substance abuse. At that level, it becomes difficult to argue that the benefits still outweigh the physical and mental costs. Like with any kind of unhealthy relationship, one of the most important first steps to resolving it is recognizing it for what it is, an attachment that ultimately stopped serving you in a healthy way.

 

In my case, I’d describe my use as both medicinal and recreational. I consume what is considered a reasonably low amount. I notice clear mental and physical benefits from it, and I enjoy the experience as well. So for me, it’s all kind of intertwined. I also haven’t experienced any signs of dependency, and I’ve had no difficulty stopping for extended periods when needed. That said, time always tells the full story, and I try to stay open to reevaluating that relationship as I go.

15 hours ago, blaze master said:

I initially started cannabis to help with ptsd. Not for recreation. But as my access grew so did my intake.

I see where you are coming from,this could be the most important part of why (we) are using.

Taking Cannabis before sleep dulls the mental pain and because it works we hold onto it and keep using.

It is such a blessing to be able to sleep and give your mind a rest.

I take my dose around 7 pm and about one hour later i am starting to feel it.

It kind of dulls my brain and i just want to go to sleep.

4 hours ago, RSD1 said:

 

By the way, have you ever reflected on how you viewed your usage? I imagine it may have started out as therapeutic, especially given the PTSD you mentioned, but over time it seems like it may have shifted, possibly moving into more recreational use, then dependency, and eventually into a pattern that could be seen as abusive.

 

If you haven’t already, I think one helpful step might be to acknowledge that consuming 10 grams a day is, by any standard, excessive and likely falls into the realm of substance abuse. At that level, it becomes difficult to argue that the benefits still outweigh the physical and mental costs. Like with any kind of unhealthy relationship, one of the most important first steps to resolving it is recognizing it for what it is, an attachment that ultimately stopped serving you in a healthy way.

 

In my case, I’d describe my use as both medicinal and recreational. I consume what is considered a reasonably low amount. I notice clear mental and physical benefits from it, and I enjoy the experience as well. So for me, it’s all kind of intertwined. I also haven’t experienced any signs of dependency, and I’ve had no difficulty stopping for extended periods when needed. That said, time always tells the full story, and I try to stay open to reevaluating that relationship as I go.

 

It did turn habitual. Towards the end I started viewing it the same way as smoking cigs. Why was I doing this now. Add to that I was getting repulsed by the actual smoke. As I did with smoking

 

How you doing on your sobriety? Still weed free? ✌🏼

54 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

How you doing on your sobriety? Still weed free? ✌🏼

 

17 days now.

1 hour ago, blaze master said:

 

17 days now.

Well done. 👍🏼 

 

How does it feel now?

On 5/31/2025 at 6:49 AM, blaze master said:

I have also been experiencing hot and cold flashes.

 

At times I am finding it hard to concentrate and focus. I have had difficulty sleeping for most of my life so that hasn't changed much. I was sweating profusely at night the first few days. To the point of changing my bed sheets 2 or 3 times a night. 

sounds like menopause... 

15 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

Well done. 👍🏼 

 

How does it feel now?

 

Better each day. Most symptoms gone now still feel little off though.

 

Strangely enough I feel hungrier now than when I was smoking. 

7 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

sounds like menopause... 

 

I am 48 now so it is about that time.

On 5/31/2025 at 9:17 AM, blaze master said:

Does someone who works out every day have wud. 

😂 love it. 
Congrats. Chucking anything into one’s lungs long term other than fresh air can’t be good, addiction or no. For those that are struggling addicted, I hear one controlled hit on mushrooms can rewire one out of it. 

I never started with weed , only went through an experimental phase in my youth,  I am happy to hear about people manage to quit and change their lifestyle for the better. 
I am in my late 50's and exercise daily ,  water and some protein in the morning keeps my body happy. It's never too late to change your habits. 

 
 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, balo said:

I never started with weed , only went through an experimental phase in my youth,  I am happy to hear about people manage to quit and change their lifestyle for the better. 
I am in my late 50's and exercise daily ,  water and some protein in the morning keeps my body happy. It's never too late to change your habits. 

 
 

 

 

 

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I've been doing morning protein for years too. I try to walk 4km daily. Been at it for about 18 months now. 

 

Still going strong with no smoking. Time for a different life. 

 

 

On 5/31/2025 at 6:49 AM, blaze master said:

First off. All comments questions and criticism is encouraged.

 

I have been an extremely heavy cannabis user for almost 30 years now. I have decided to stop smoking and thought I would share the reality of what I am going through.

 

Yes I know this is anecdotal and the same things may not happen to others. I'm not here to brag but when you hear people say oh I've been smoking for 20 years etc....I've been high for 30 years. Other than 3 months (when I first arrived In Thailand it was 2003 and finding cannabis in hat yai was a challenge to say the least)  and a few other days here and there i have always been smoking. 

 

I graduated college high. Worked my professional career high. Basically everything high.

 

I stopped on May 20 so i'm 10 days in now. Yes I know its not a long time but thats not what this is about. Im here to give my unfiltered truth.

 

It has been very different from when I quit smoking cigs 9 years ago.

 

Since stopping I have encountered quite a number of withdrawals or side effects. Nauseous. Headaches. Upset stomach. Diarrhea. Loss of appetite. My head still feels quite foggy even after 10 days of 0 use. I have also been experiencing hot and cold flashes.

 

At times I am finding it hard to concentrate and focus. I have had difficulty sleeping for most of my life so that hasn't changed much. I was sweating profusely at night the first few days. To the point of changing my bed sheets 2 or 3 times a night. 

 

A Thai friend of mine who was in a similar situation quit back in January. He also went through many of the same things I am going through. We were both heavy users. 

 

I dont have the same feeling that I had when i quit cigs. That urge to light up another just isn't there. Neither is that irritating feeling I got when I quit cigs. 

 

I was also a heavy drinker for about 10 years but I haven't been drunk in about 18 years now.  I will have a beer or 2 if I am out in a social setting but never anything more.

 

I cant say that I'll never smoke a joint again as I dont know where life will take me. Still only 48 so many years to go. I do know however I will never return to being such a heavy smoker. 

 

I am In good health. Never spent a night in the hospital. All my doctor checks turn out in normal healthy ranges. Im 5 10 and weigh about 175lbs. I dont have anything like a smokers cough. That stopped shortly after I quit cigs. I have normal lung capacity as per my health records. I have a decent diet and walk 4km almost daily.....always high 🤣 

 

Hopefully sharing this can help show that for people like me quitting did in fact have withdrawals and side effects. My thai friend said it went away for him after about 2 weeks.

 

That's my story. Puff puff pass.

 

 

 

 

 

Guess I should just continue my 60 years. Sounds just to uncomfortable. 

1 minute ago, Colabamumbai said:

Guess I should just continue my 60 years. Sounds just to uncomfortable. 

 

The first 30 of yours doesn't count 😁

 

Unless you consider the Mexican trail mix you were smoking as cannabis. 

 

But seriously most of the effects are gone now. Head is clearing more and more each day.

 

The dreams are awesome too. 

I am over 70, been using for 55 years. For the last 2 years over 2 grams per day of high quality, high THC per day (I grow my own)

I am currently on an extended stay in a country where it is illegal and 3 weeks without a toke.

No cravings, no symptoms of withdrawal. Just finding I dream a lot more at night and getting to sleep is harder.

On 5/31/2025 at 9:13 AM, JBChiangRai said:

 

Addiction and Withdrawal doesn't have to mean Craving.  You don't have the craving so you can give up easily, but you're getting withdrawal symptoms because your body is addicted.

 

You may not want to call it CUD, but that's what it is.  There are lots of symptoms for CUD and you're exhibiting one of them with withdrawal symptoms.  I think it's useful that those who say "Cannabis is not addictive" can see from your symptoms that they were wrong.  Cannabis can be addictive in about 6% of regular users.

'Cannabis Use Disorder'. Never heard of it nor have two of my friends, and a relative, who are  doctors. Too much of anything tends not to be healthy as with, inter-alia,  cigs, alcohol, salt and sugar.

   Nice post, OP (blaze master).  I understand you.  I am 75, and I have a stop-and-go history with smoking weed over half a century.  I smoked daily – usually moderately – from 1969 to 1980; then I quit for many years (which was easy and without any significant effects).  I only smoked a few times here and there throughout the following decades, and then I started micro-dosing again here in Thailand since 2022.  The virtue (perhaps unique for me) of a micro-dose of two or three tokes of sativa is that it makes me stand up, exercise, and move out.  It restoreth my health. 

 

   I started serious toking in Vietnam, and in 1970 at our combat base at An Hoa, over 75 percent of my fellow Marines toked when not out in combat danger.  Coming home as a civilian, I smoked moderately every day for the next ten years.  Weed inspired me to hit the trails, backpacking and wilderness bivouacking, and it evolved into mountaineering. 

 

   During the 1970s, I used weed for training while self-teaching myself technical climbing on rock, snow and ice.  After working the midnight to dawn shift at a hospital, I would drive to my favorite rock-climbing spots, take several tokes of good weed, then put on my rock shoes, stretch, and spend the morning bouldering on the cliffs – only on safer routes with soft landings.  I’d spend hours traversing and exploring climbing moves close to the ground.  Sometimes I would do higher, more dangerous, climbs, but with a rigged top-rope and self-belay system to catch me if I came off.  By noon, I was exhausted and would nap on a ledge before heading home.  Cannabis inspired me to move out and up. 

 

   I would do solo climbing expeditions in the Adirondacks, West Virginia, or on the outcrops in the Alleghenies.  When I stubbled back to the roadhead, I would light up and turn on the car radio. 

 

   I quit smoking cannabis on New Year’s Day 1980.  I had formerly spent this holiday with my girlfriend and our friends, but she and I had broken up, and I spent this holiday alone in a bivy in the snow on the top of the highest rocks in the county.  I woke up to a brilliant morning view, sat up in my sleeping bag and lit a joint.  Alone, I pondered several possibilities ahead of me, most involving young ladies I was interested in now that I was a free man again. 

 

   I looked at my joint and thought:  “I’ve been smoking this regularly for ten years; what would it be like to stop completely for one year?”  The women I was now intrigued with were not within the cannabis culture, so quitting was an easy decision.  I barely ever smoked weed again until now. 

 

   I ended up getting married to a non-smoker non-drinker, and the decade of my 30s ended up a disappointment.  I stopped climbing.  I became lazy.  But I went back to college – something I couldn’t have done well if spent time smoking – and got certified as a teacher.  No time to smoke. 

 

   After retirement in Thailand, I returned to visit family in Pennsylvania, and I hooked up with some old friends who were still smoking dope.  I started smoking regularly there, and it caused me to lace up my boots and head out on the trails, climbing the hills, and getting strong again. 

 

   My old buddies had a party for me, and they presented me with a joke gift, “the Zenwind joint” – which was my famous signature style from the 70s, a very thin pin-joint.  I was famous for small joints and micro-dosing, and they had always kidded me about being “cheap”! 

 

   Well, micro-dosing is the key to the health benefits of THC.  These days in Thailand, I do a three-times-a-week exercise.  Two or three tokes of good sativa; then high stair climbing on numerous neighborhood bridges and pedestrian flyovers while wielding dumbbells.  It’s a good workout for a 75-year-old guy, and the cannabis gets me off my lazy butt and out the door. 

 

   On rest days, I micro-dose and do moderate exercises to keep limber:  Tai Chi, Yoga, stretches, calisthenics, etc.  I find that if I don't toke, I don't take the time to exercise.  (My true addiction is too much reading!)  

7 hours ago, PaoloR said:

I am over 70, been using for 55 years. For the last 2 years over 2 grams per day of high quality, high THC per day (I grow my own)

I am currently on an extended stay in a country where it is illegal and 3 weeks without a toke.

No cravings, no symptoms of withdrawal. Just finding I dream a lot more at night and getting to sleep is harder.

 

Up until a few months ago in was smoking 2 grams of shatter daily along with many grams of flower.

 

Quite a big difference. Not dismissing your remark in any way though.

4 hours ago, Zenwind said:

   Nice post, OP (blaze master).  I understand you.  I am 75, and I have a stop-and-go history with smoking weed over half a century.  I smoked daily – usually moderately – from 1969 to 1980; then I quit for many years (which was easy and without any significant effects).  I only smoked a few times here and there throughout the following decades, and then I started micro-dosing again here in Thailand since 2022.  The virtue (perhaps unique for me) of a micro-dose of two or three tokes of sativa is that it makes me stand up, exercise, and move out.  It restoreth my health. 

 

   I started serious toking in Vietnam, and in 1970 at our combat base at An Hoa, over 75 percent of my fellow Marines toked when not out in combat danger.  Coming home as a civilian, I smoked moderately every day for the next ten years.  Weed inspired me to hit the trails, backpacking and wilderness bivouacking, and it evolved into mountaineering. 

 

   During the 1970s, I used weed for training while self-teaching myself technical climbing on rock, snow and ice.  After working the midnight to dawn shift at a hospital, I would drive to my favorite rock-climbing spots, take several tokes of good weed, then put on my rock shoes, stretch, and spend the morning bouldering on the cliffs – only on safer routes with soft landings.  I’d spend hours traversing and exploring climbing moves close to the ground.  Sometimes I would do higher, more dangerous, climbs, but with a rigged top-rope and self-belay system to catch me if I came off.  By noon, I was exhausted and would nap on a ledge before heading home.  Cannabis inspired me to move out and up. 

 

   I would do solo climbing expeditions in the Adirondacks, West Virginia, or on the outcrops in the Alleghenies.  When I stubbled back to the roadhead, I would light up and turn on the car radio. 

 

   I quit smoking cannabis on New Year’s Day 1980.  I had formerly spent this holiday with my girlfriend and our friends, but she and I had broken up, and I spent this holiday alone in a bivy in the snow on the top of the highest rocks in the county.  I woke up to a brilliant morning view, sat up in my sleeping bag and lit a joint.  Alone, I pondered several possibilities ahead of me, most involving young ladies I was interested in now that I was a free man again. 

 

   I looked at my joint and thought:  “I’ve been smoking this regularly for ten years; what would it be like to stop completely for one year?”  The women I was now intrigued with were not within the cannabis culture, so quitting was an easy decision.  I barely ever smoked weed again until now. 

 

   I ended up getting married to a non-smoker non-drinker, and the decade of my 30s ended up a disappointment.  I stopped climbing.  I became lazy.  But I went back to college – something I couldn’t have done well if spent time smoking – and got certified as a teacher.  No time to smoke. 

 

   After retirement in Thailand, I returned to visit family in Pennsylvania, and I hooked up with some old friends who were still smoking dope.  I started smoking regularly there, and it caused me to lace up my boots and head out on the trails, climbing the hills, and getting strong again. 

 

   My old buddies had a party for me, and they presented me with a joke gift, “the Zenwind joint” – which was my famous signature style from the 70s, a very thin pin-joint.  I was famous for small joints and micro-dosing, and they had always kidded me about being “cheap”! 

 

   Well, micro-dosing is the key to the health benefits of THC.  These days in Thailand, I do a three-times-a-week exercise.  Two or three tokes of good sativa; then high stair climbing on numerous neighborhood bridges and pedestrian flyovers while wielding dumbbells.  It’s a good workout for a 75-year-old guy, and the cannabis gets me off my lazy butt and out the door. 

 

   On rest days, I micro-dose and do moderate exercises to keep limber:  Tai Chi, Yoga, stretches, calisthenics, etc.  I find that if I don't toke, I don't take the time to exercise.  (My true addiction is too much reading!)  

 

Thanks for this great post.

On 6/10/2025 at 1:59 PM, Zenwind said:

then I started micro-dosing again here in Thailand since 2022.  The virtue (perhaps unique for me) of a micro-dose of two or three tokes of sativa is that it makes me stand up, exercise, and move out.  It restoreth my health. 

I have also been doing micro-dosing with Dynavap, it's what keep me going most days. My intake is 0.2g to 0.4g per day. some days 0g. never the need for more than half gram a day. I go to Japan often and those weeks I sometimes have nightmares, well, it's a good thing to have long week breaks or months to detox and remove the tolerance.

when I get back in Thailand, 0.1g blow me away 😄

 

Haven't smoked for nearly 3 years, only microdose with vaporizer (not vapes, not oils, just real dried flowers)

 

0.1g in the Dynavap, is probably equivalent of 0.5g to when burned on a joint or on the glass pipes. 

 

Some days, 5pm, super exhausted, tired, moody. then take a microdose (0.05g or 0.1g of a good hybrid, I prefer Sativa 60%-70%) NOW I want go mob the whole house!  

Then another microdose at night with Indica, then i have a mind-blowing sex, and amazing sleep. (if the partner is able) 

 

The thing is, I'm so much more addicted to Sex than cannabis, now I feel like I can have it so much better then when I was in my 20s. 

 

With Microdosing, I spend so little money.

Allowing me to get TOP grade, I usually get 10-50g of indoor buds that lasts months. most of the time I end up with stock that gets too old and I just make edibles or throw away.

On 6/10/2025 at 1:59 PM, Zenwind said:

Well, micro-dosing is the key to the health benefits of THC.

I believe that you could function well in the 70s and 80s was because back then Cannabis wasn't that strong and a toke back then would be similar to today microdosing those super high THC strains.

Weed back in the 70s used to have 2-4% THC, hardly anything over 8%.

Today they are all 20-30% even 34% I have seen, it's insane, and super strong. 

Actually researchers have proved that High THC cannabis can alter DNA and cause severe mental problems specially memory loss and paranoia.

 

So, 0.1g in the Dynavap is like taking 1-2g joint from the 70s'... you were already microdosing back then! 😄 

 

Source: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2396976-is-cannabis-today-really-much-more-potent-than-50-years-ago/ 

Sinsemilla are the female seedless types, even stronger. 

I also had not great experience with high THC, I felt regret after. so now I prefer lower THC strains, besides they are cheaper.

 

https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/10203955/see8d-today-s-cannabis-is-a-lot-stronger-than-its-predecessors.png

3 hours ago, brfsa2 said:

I have also been doing micro-dosing with Dynavap, it's what keep me going most days. My intake is 0.2g to 0.4g per day. some days 0g. never the need for more than half gram a day. I go to Japan often and those weeks I sometimes have nightmares, well, it's a good thing to have long week breaks or months to detox and remove the tolerance.

when I get back in Thailand, 0.1g blow me away 😄

 

Haven't smoked for nearly 3 years, only microdose with vaporizer (not vapes, not oils, just real dried flowers)

 

0.1g in the Dynavap, is probably equivalent of 0.5g to when burned on a joint or on the glass pipes. 

 

Some days, 5pm, super exhausted, tired, moody. then take a microdose (0.05g or 0.1g of a good hybrid, I prefer Sativa 60%-70%) NOW I want go mob the whole house!  

Then another microdose at night with Indica, then i have a mind-blowing sex, and amazing sleep. (if the partner is able) 

 

The thing is, I'm so much more addicted to Sex than cannabis, now I feel like I can have it so much better then when I was in my 20s. 

 

With Microdosing, I spend so little money.

Allowing me to get TOP grade, I usually get 10-50g of indoor buds that lasts months. most of the time I end up with stock that gets too old and I just make edibles or throw away.

 

Thanks for the comment.

 

Should note that the whole sativa indica part simply comes down to terpenes.