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Tragedy struck today as a London-bound Air India flight with over 200 passengers crashed shortly after takeoff from Ahmedabad airport. Dramatic scenes unfolded with rescue operations immediately launched, though it's unclear if there are fatalities.

 

Bound for London's Gatwick Airport, the Boeing 787-8 was carrying 242 people, including 169 Indians, 53 British, 7 Portuguese, and 1 Canadian. The crash impacted a civilian area, with visuals showing stretchers and ambulances amidst thick smoke rising near the airport.

 

Authorities and Air India are working to confirm details. The cause remains unknown as the investigation continues, with further updates expected soon.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, webfact said:

though it's unclear if there are fatalities

Looking at the footage from the previous closed thread, it landed in a fireball, I'm sure no survivers. So sad 😞

 

Worked in India many years maintenance department, rigs I supervised all Indians, the guys liked to cut corners. 

 

 

 

 

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Better fly with airbus. Finnair has good business class offers with airbus from and to TH.

 

Date Aircraft / Flight Casualties Remarks
2018-10-29 B737 MAX 8 – Lion Air Flight 610 189 fatalities MCAS malfunction; triggered global MAX grounding 
2019-02-23 B767 – Atlas Air Flight 3591 (cargo) 3 fatalities Crash due to pilot spatial disorientation
2019-03-10 B737 MAX 8 – Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 157 fatalities MCAS error; MAX grounded again
***2020-01-08 B737‑800 – Ukraine Intl Flight 752 176 fatalities Shot down in Iran (not Boeing defect)
2021 (mid-year) B777 – United Airlines (?) 0 casualties Engine fan blade detached after takeoff
2022-03-21 B737‑800 – China Eastern Flight 5735 132 fatalities Sudden descent (cause under investigation)
2024-01-05 B737 MAX 9 – Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 0; 3 injuries Cabin decompression due to missing bolts
2024-05-08 B767 – FedEx (Paris → Istanbul) 0 Nose gear collapsed, safe landing
2024-05-09 B737‑300 – Transair/Air Sénégal (Dakar) 10 injured Rejected takeoff led to fire and excursion
2024-11-09 B737‑400F – Total Linhas Aéreas Flight 5682 (Brazil) 0 In-flight cargo fire; aircraft destroyed
2024-11-25 B737‑400SF – Swiftair Flight 5960 / DHL (Vilnius) 1 killed, 3 injured Hydraulic/flap config error; final approach crash
2025-06-12 B787‑8 – Air India Flight AI‑171 (Ahmedabad) 30+ fatalities First fatal 787 crash; investigation ongoing
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2 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

OK thank you. Just avoid all Boeings might be the better way to travel.

 

You might want to avoid Airbuses too. They also have a checkered history.

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Seen a report on the pprune website, the pilot took off from an intersection and not the full length, so the take off distance was just under 1900m  not a lot for a B787 that would have a lot of fuel for a flight to uk

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What we know so far after Air India flight heading to London Gatwick crashes

 

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An Air India passenger plane bound for London Gatwick crashed shortly after taking off in Ahmedabad, western India on Thursday 12 June.

 

More than 240 people were on board the flight when it was involved in what the airline has called a "tragic accident".

 

Details are still emerging from the scene. Here is what is known so far.

 

When and where did plane crash?

 

Air India flight AI171 left Ahmedabad's Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel International Airport at 13:39 local time (08:09 GMT), Air India said.

 

It was scheduled to land at London Gatwick at 18:25 BST.

 

The plane crashed on departure from Ahmedabad - where all operations have since been suspended.

 

According to flight tracking website FlightRadar24, the signal from the aircraft was lost "less than a minute after take-off".

 

Flight tracking data ends with the plane at an altitude of 625ft (190m).

 

The plane gave a mayday call to air traffic control, India's aviation regulator said. No response was given by the aircraft after that.

 

It crashed into a residential area called Meghani Nagar. Police told ANI news agency that it had crashed into a doctors' hostel.

 

Verified footage taken in central Ahmedabad showed huge plumes of black smoke in the sky.

The BBC's Roxy Gagdekar said people near the scene were running to "save as many lives as possible". 
 

He said emergency services were involved in a rescue operation and trying to extinguish a fire, and described seeing bodies being taken from the area.

 

There has been no official confirmation yet on the number of casualties.


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Who was on board?


There were 242 passengers and crew members on board, according to Air India.

 

Among the passengers were 53 British nationals, 169 Indian nationals, one Canadian national and seven Portuguese nationals.

 

The aircraft - a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner - had a total of 256 seats on board.

 

Air India said the injured were being taken to the nearest hospitals.

 

Officials have been instructed to carry out "immediate rescue and relief operations" and to make arrangements on a "war footing," the chief minister of Gujarat said.

 

Air India's chairman Natarajan Chandrasekaran said an "emergency centre has been activated" and a support team put in place for families seeking information.

 

What have the airline and authorities said?

 

Air India confirmed on X that the flight was "involved in an accident today after take-off".

It said it was fully co-operating with authorities investigating the crash and would provide further updates and has set up a dedicated passenger hotline to provide further information: 1800 5691 444

 

The airline's chairman, Natarajan Chandrasekaran, said in a statement: "We are doing everything in our power to assist the emergency response teams at the site and to provide all necessary support and care to those impacted."

 

A spokesperson for Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel International Airport said all operations had been suspended until further notice, and they advised passengers to check with their airline before travelling to the airport.

 

India's aviation minister said he had directed "all aviation and emergency response agencies to take swift and coordinated action".

 

Ram Mohan Naidu Kinjaparu added on X: "Rescue teams have been mobilised, and all efforts are being made to ensure medical aid and relief support are being rushed to the site."

 

How have India reacted?

 

India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi said he was "stunned and saddened" by the crash.

"It is heartbreaking beyond words," he said in a statement on X, adding he had been in touch with officials assisting those affected.

 

 

 

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40 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

Anyone who has seen the videos in the other topics will be sure that there cannot be survivors - although I hope I'm wrong. Quite possibly many deaths amongst the local populous, as it crashed into a residential area. 

Definitely no one onboard survived this.

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49 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Looking at the footage from the previous closed thread, it landed in a fireball, I'm sure no survivers. So sad 😞

 

Worked in India many years maintenance department, rigs I supervised all Indians, the guys liked to cut corners. 

 

 

 

 

It was full of fuel for the flight to Gatwick, so as you say looking at the fireball, its very unlikely!

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2 hours ago, webfact said:

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Tragedy struck today as a London-bound Air India flight with over 200 passengers crashed shortly after takeoff from Ahmedabad airport. Dramatic scenes unfolded with rescue operations immediately launched, though it's unclear if there are fatalities.

 

Bound for London's Gatwick Airport, the Boeing 787-8 was carrying 242 people, including 169 Indians, 53 British, 7 Portuguese, and 1 Canadian. The crash impacted a civilian area, with visuals showing stretchers and ambulances amidst thick smoke rising near the airport.

 

Authorities and Air India are working to confirm details. The cause remains unknown as the investigation continues, with further updates expected soon.

 

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I'll never fly with Boeing out of good reasons. Qed

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1 minute ago, mikeymike100 said:

The 787's have been in service for almost 14 years, this is the first actual crash of one!

No Fatal Crashes Until 2025: Prior to the Air India crash, the 787 had no fatal accidents in nearly 5 million flights, with over 1,000 aircraft delivered to airlines worldwide, according to Reuters, BBC News, and the Aviation Safety Network. This made it one of the safest commercial aircraft models, with Boeing’s official statement noting it safely transported over 875 million passengers on more than 4.2 million flights by April 2024.

I did not refer to any model but brand. 

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5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Really? Compared to Boeing's recent history it's not even close which company has been the safest. No contest.

 

I think they are on par. There have been some Airbus crashes that were caused mainly by aircraft design flaws.

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4 minutes ago, JoseThailand said:

 

I think they are on par. There have been some Airbus crashes that were caused mainly by aircraft design flaws.

10.000 years ago.

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Very sad.

 

Looking at the wreckage I doubt anyone survived. Also plenty of deaths of people where it crashed as well I'd imagine. 

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17 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Very sad.

 

Looking at the wreckage I doubt anyone survived. Also plenty of deaths of people where it crashed as well I'd imagine. 

 crash landed on a school/Uni  canteen 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, JoseThailand said:

 

I think they are on par. There have been some Airbus crashes that were caused mainly by aircraft design flaws.

A long time ago, unlike Boeing.

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32 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

The 787's have been in service for almost 14 years, this is the first actual crash of one!

No Fatal Crashes Until 2025: Prior to the Air India crash, the 787 had no fatal accidents in nearly 5 million flights, with over 1,000 aircraft delivered to airlines worldwide, according to Reuters, BBC News, and the Aviation Safety Network. This made it one of the safest commercial aircraft models, with Boeing’s official statement noting it safely transported over 875 million passengers on more than 4.2 million flights by April 2024.

Read here:

I suggest to rely on facts and figures. In doing so, I would rely on airsafe.com. They are of course familiar with the methodological issue that some of the respondents have raised, i.e. that an aircraft that is flying more often risks having more accidents. Thus, the airsafe statistics report fatal passenger events per million flights, see Plane crash rates by model.

 

The result is as follows (fatal crash rate per million flights):

 

Airbus 320 family (all models): 0.09

Boeing 737 (all models): 0.24

Boeing 737 MAX: 3.08

In other words: the Boeing 737 is 2.7 times more crash prone than the A320 family.

 

Since the original question enquired about the safety of the Boeing 737 MAX compared to the A320, here is the answer: The B737 MAX had 34.2 times more fatal crashes per million flights than the A320 family.

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