36 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

From the guy that thought taking steroids to bulk up was a good idea.

Really!?

 

And there was me thinking that his 'Arnie' physique was due to 8 hours on his rowing machine each day.

 

I'm not a believer in steroids. They are anti-nature.

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Not so Richard.

 

Measles is a general term given to a raft of differing symptoms. These symptoms are indistinguishable from  the symptoms of other 'illnesses'. They are all caused by toxicity and are not contagious.

In 1954, Dr. Thomas C. Peebles first isolated the measles virus (later named the Edmonston strain) from an infected student. He successfully grew it in tissue culture and showed it could infect monkeys—pioneering work toward vaccine development  .

That same work was built upon by John F. Enders’ lab, successfully cultivating the virus in vitro

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Really!?

 

And there was me thinking that his 'Arnie' physique was due to 8 hours on his rowing machine each day.

 

I'm not a believer in steroids. They are anti-nature.

So now you have cottoned on to a lie, how surprising, but it fits in with your agenda, eh..🤥

Think I better go back and report it, as another numpty with latch on to it......🤕

No there will never be a safe vaccine, so what? Nothing is safe in life, everything is a trade off.

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

In 1954, Dr. Thomas C. Peebles first isolated the measles virus (later named the Edmonston strain) from an infected student. He successfully grew it in tissue culture and showed it could infect monkeys—pioneering work toward vaccine development  .

That same work was built upon by John F. Enders’ lab, successfully cultivating the virus in vitro

I know quite a lot about these two. 

 

They both were awarded the Nobel Prize. The big problem for me was that they did something the virologists of today don't. Run a control. In other words run an experiment alongside without the mucus from a measles sufferer. If you read the conclusion in their paper, they say that both samples broke down the structure of the petri contents. In other words they showed that the control suggested that they had found their virus; when there was not one to start with.

 

Another of the white-coats experiments that didn't give the required results. But fair play to them. At least they did a control. 

Will these morons ever be banned from forums like this. Measles is dreadful way to die. And people used to die from it frequently until the vaccination program was introduced on a worldwide basis. India, Pakistan and now AMERICA is being hit with measles.  It is sad that Pakistan can not afford the vaccine but absolutely devastating that anti-vax conspiracy theorist are spreading lies about this life saving vaccine resulting in parts of America suffering from a plague of measles. 

So ignore these idiots and trouble makers. GET YOUR KIDS VACCINATED!  NOW Before it's too late.

2 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

Will these morons ever be banned from forums like this

 

Absolutely not....look what page you're on now.

48 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

This is utter hogwash Richard bud.

 

Vaccines never eradicated anything. The incidence of polio was greatly lessened as is became obvious to the authorities, that it was chemical toxicity that was causing the problem.

And your evidence other than repetition is....???  How about some names of the specific toxins?  Do the same toxins cause all the diseases attributed to virus's?  Do you have an answer more specific than toxin?  This oughta be a larf!

48 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

This is utter hogwash Richard bud.

 

Vaccines never eradicated anything. The incidence of polio was greatly lessened as is became obvious to the authorities, that it was chemical toxicity that was causing the problem.

Vaccines actually eradicated smallpox. They've also lessened the amount of diseases people had, which lowered the possibility of contagion. And measles is very contagious. It might be better if you researched some actual evidence and not go by other's opinions who dislike vaccines for personal reasons. 

8 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

About the steroid use?

 

I'm just going by another poster. Who I will not name. Have to protect my sources.

YouTube, and crazy opinion pieces, and conmen.... and now gossip.... those are your sources.... LOL

3 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

And your evidence other than repetition is....???  How about some names of the specific toxins?  Do the same toxins cause all the diseases attributed to virus's?  Do you have an answer more specific than toxin?  This oughta be a larf!

Dr Suzzane Humphries.

Arsenic.

Mercury.

DDT.

4 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

And your evidence other than repetition is....???  How about some names of the specific toxins?  Do the same toxins cause all the diseases attributed to virus's?  Do you have an answer more specific than toxin?  This oughta be a larf!

 

He/she is the Flat Earther of medicine......try to resist getting drawn in....555

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Vaccines actually eradicated smallpox. They've also lessened the amount of diseases people had, which lowered the possibility of contagion. And measles is very contagious. It might be better if you researched some actual evidence and not go by other's opinions who dislike vaccines for personal reasons. 

Tell me Fred, just how does the measles illness get passed from one to another? I can't find out. Perhaps you can spill the beans.

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

Tell me Fred, just how does the measles illness get passed from one to another? I can't find out. Perhaps you can spill the beans.

 

What toxins do you think almost wiped out the Inuit when the poor souls eventually bump into the white man's common cold?

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

He/she is the Flat Earther of medicine......try to resist getting drawn in....555

Are you referring to Dr Suzzane Humphries? Have a butchers at her book.

 

Also Eleanor McBean.  The Poisoned Needle' A quote;

 

"Physicians have been looking in the wrong direction for the cure of disease. The cause of disease is stubbornly ignored, and with the use of vaccination, the seeds for more problems are sown. This infusion of poison into the masses only serves to intensify diseases."

6 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Tell me Fred, just how does the measles illness get passed from one to another? I can't find out. Perhaps you can spill the beans.

Just like the AI experts say:

 

Several bacteria are spread through respiratory droplets expelled when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks. These include Streptococcus pneumoniae, Haemophilus influenzae, Legionella pneumophila, Bordetella pertussis, and Mycobacterium tuberculosis, which cause illnesses like pneumonia, meningitis, whooping cough, and tuberculosis. 

 

But instead of bacteria.... it's viral particles.

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

What toxins do you think almost wiped out the Inuit when the poor souls eventually bump into the white man's common cold?

I don't know. My guess would be a gun.

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Are you referring to Dr Suzzane Humphries? Have a butchers at her book.

 

Also Eleanor McBean.  The Poisoned Needle' A quote;

 

"Physicians have been looking in the wrong direction for the cure of disease. The cause of disease is stubbornly ignored, and with the use of vaccination, the seeds for more problems are sown. This infusion of poison into the masses only serves to intensify diseases."

5555.....no, I was referring to you.

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I don't know. My guess would be a gun.

 

 

 

Weak deflection.......

 

While the common cold is generally mild, it could be more severe for people with no previous exposure, leading to secondary bacterial infections (like pneumonia). With no previous exposure, the immune system was not able to deal effectively with virus.

 

The common cold had disproportionately harmful effects in isolated Inuit populations during early contact periods who lived in otherwise pristine, toxin free environments.

3 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Just like the AI experts say:

 

Several bacteria are spread through respiratory droplets expelled when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks. These include Streptococcus pneumoniae, Haemophilus influenzae, Legionella pneumophila, Bordetella pertussis, and Mycobacterium tuberculosis, which cause illnesses like pneumonia, meningitis, whooping cough, and tuberculosis. 

 

But instead of bacteria.... it's viral particles.

 

I must refer you to Dr Daniel Roytas. A quote;

 

The claim that colds and flu are contagious, may be one of the greatest ever blunders of medical science. Prepare to be shocked as this book brings to life the buried data that can no longer be ignored.

 

Can You Catch a Cold.

or

www.CanYouCatchaCold.com

 

 

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

 

I must refer you to Dr Daniel Roytas. A quote;

 

The claim that colds and flu are contagious, may be one of the greatest ever blunders of medical science. Prepare to be shocked as this book brings to life the buried data that can no longer be ignored.

 

Can You Catch a Cold.

or

www.CanYouCatchaCold.com

 

 

 

So people suddenly all decide to catch....sorry develop?......the common cold (symptoms) roughly around the same time.....winter months and family gatherings.....very strange.

13 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Are you referring to Dr Suzzane Humphries? Have a butchers at her book.

 

Also Eleanor McBean.  The Poisoned Needle' A quote;

 

"Physicians have been looking in the wrong direction for the cure of disease. The cause of disease is stubbornly ignored, and with the use of vaccination, the seeds for more problems are sown. This infusion of poison into the masses only serves to intensify diseases."

 

So how come smallpox was wiped out and polio is almost wiped out?????

10 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

So how come smallpox was wiped out and polio is almost wiped out?????

.... maybe some 'toxins' are now in short supply???

45 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

Will these morons ever be banned from forums like this. Measles is dreadful way to die. And people used to die from it frequently until the vaccination program was introduced on a worldwide basis. India, Pakistan and now AMERICA is being hit with measles.  It is sad that Pakistan can not afford the vaccine but absolutely devastating that anti-vax conspiracy theorist are spreading lies about this life saving vaccine resulting in parts of America suffering from a plague of measles. 

So ignore these idiots and trouble makers. GET YOUR KIDS VACCINATED!  NOW Before it's too late.

Trivial disease in the well fed.

Everyone used to catch it, itchy for a week then finished.

When people grow up and stop whinging

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

So how come smallpox was wiped out and polio is almost wiped out?????

The symptoms of Smallpox as an illness, were very broad. Even now people around the world are showing symptoms of what once was called smallpox.

 

I must return to basics to answer. Illness is quite a basic thing. It is the insult of the body by toxins. How much of a stranglehold those toxins have is due, to a great extent, on the robustness of our defences. One doesn't have to go back that far to know that human living conditions on towns was less than hygienic. And the diets in many places was poor. For many in England the diet for years was beer and bread. Without good nutrition the body would be susceptible to even a minor toxic exposure.

 

So in saying the above, I cannot in all honesty point the finger at a specific entity. But a better body defence, and staying away from toxins (AMAP) are a great help in avoiding illness.

People have lost faith in the medical establishment and industry. Long time ago we managed to erradicate smallpox, but nothing since. I try not to be too cynical, but as long as it is hugely profitable to treat rather than cure, then we will always be unhealthy. It's also a little like how Ike after WW2 was against making an industrial military complex and industry as if war is always profitable, then there will always be wars. 

There has been much erosion of trust in big pharma and the medical industry and of instituations like the WHO, FDA or the AMA etc. in the recent past as much detrayal is suspected... and let's not even get started on the Chinese vaccines, WHO chief Ted Dross covering up for Beijing, and why the files for big pharma on Covid/vaccine are sealed for 75 years and they have been given immunity from prosecution etc. I'm not a huge conspiracy theorist, but there is plenty that doesn't pass the smell test and is highly suspicious... people just don't blindly trust or believe what they are told now, so it gets even more murky and opaque, and maybe by design.

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The symptoms of Smallpox as an illness, were very broad. Even now people around the world are showing symptoms of what once was called smallpox.

 

I must return to basics to answer. Illness is quite a basic thing. It is the insult of the body by toxins. How much of a stranglehold those toxins have is due, to a great extent, on the robustness of our defences. One doesn't have to go back that far to know that human living conditions on towns was less than hygienic. And the diets in many places was poor. For many in England the diet for years was beer and bread. Without good nutrition the body would be susceptible to even a minor toxic exposure.

 

So in saying the above, I cannot in all honesty point the finger at a specific entity. But a better body defence, and staying away from toxins (AMAP) are a great help in avoiding illness.

 

 

...and the Inuit?

35 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

While the common cold is generally mild, it could be more severe for people with no previous exposure, leading to secondary bacterial infections (like pneumonia). With no previous exposure, the immune system was not able to deal effectively with virus.

Monumental humbug.

 

The 'common cold' is not a disease or is it contagious.

 

''The claim that colds and flu are contagious, may be one of the greatest ever blunders of medical science. Prepare to be shocked as this book brings to life the buried data that can no longer be ignored.''

 

On the cover of Dr Roytas' book; 'Can You catch a Cold'.

 

There are many others out there Will buddy, that forward points of view that do not agree with the MSM narrative. They don't get a look in on MSM, so some write a book. This one a very interesting read. Investigating 100+ years of medical experiments. Many by the US Navy.

 

These are reasons for the 'common cold'. I'm quite prepared to say what they are. Another thread Will?!

13 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

...and the Inuit?

Guns. And even more guns.