This is entirely true. Indigenous British are being left behind in the social housing lists to be replaced by Somalians and their large families, often as many as nine. So the Brits don't stand a chance. We also have the issue of thousands of people coming over by boat being shortlisted for homes. The latter are primarily Muslim men ranging from 15 to 30 who have not been socialised for living in a western culture. They are housed en masse in hotels where they cause a danger to the communities  in which they reside.

8 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

There's going to be a massive backlash against this and rightly so.

 

Civil unrest is already starting. Southport, Ballymena, etc. 

 

Deportations of millions is now a moderate viewpoint.

 

Remigration is inevitable. 

No. The people don't know about it. Those that complain are labelled

"fascist" &  "racist".

SO WE ARE STUCK...Me personally I got out of the place and when back there NEVER express my opinions.

8 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Ahh, welcome to the party!

 

 Only thing missing in the pic,  is a beer in one hand and a spliff in the other.

for the other party goers on the bus.

The true face,  of Broken Britain.

 

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

We have grown up in the UK and had every opportunity to make a go of it.

 

This guy is not British.  He is a troll.  

12 hours ago, Social Media said:

claims that Britain prioritises [economic migrants seeking a free ride] over its own homeless citizens

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Won't happen. Today's Brits are spineless. The UK is descending into a hell hole.

It's already descend. I'm afraid

49 minutes ago, Summerinsiam said:

Yet more right-wing clickbait..

Been waiting for the right wing BS to be bought into it.  Nothing right wing about wanted to be housed in your own country.

5 minutes ago, lavender19 said:

Been waiting for the right wing BS to be bought into it.  Nothing right wing about wanted to be housed in your own country.

I agree, but the housing shortage is due to primarily to a decades long failure in housing policy and the fact that  not enough affordable homes have been built to keep pace with population growth and changes in household formation. It has nothing to do with asylum seekers or people coming across the channel on dinghies. Lol. Blaming such problems on them is just lazy, incorrect and the playbook of the far-right It is far from bs. You really should read more widely and check your facts.

1 hour ago, DaveBart said:

Eventually the people of England will say enough is enough and take the law into their own hands like they did in Ireland 

The best will just leave.

1 hour ago, Summerinsiam said:

I agree, but the housing shortage is due to primarily to a decades long failure in housing policy and the fact that  not enough affordable homes have been built to keep pace with population growth and changes in household formation. It has nothing to do with asylum seekers or people coming across the channel on dinghies. Lol. Blaming such problems on them is just lazy, incorrect and the playbook of the far-right It is far from bs. You really should read more widely and check your facts.

So In the last ten years there have been about 8 million migrants enter the country, net migration so a real increase, so about the size of whole of London. And the UK doesn't provide enough housing for the indigenous population. Now add that will be water shortages as there are reservoirs being constructed. Probably not enough schools, hospitals, increase in the pension age to 68 coming. Will there be enough jobs. Yes the number of migrants coming across the channel pales into insignificance against the total net migration in any year. But then I guess the expat British will be paying UK tax on pensions so your contribution to housing them in hotels is welcome. The constant reference to everything being far right doesn't solve the problem either.

11 hours ago, lavender19 said:

Been waiting for the right wing BS to be bought into it.  Nothing right wing about wanted to be housed in your own country.

Right the absolute standard response when ever this comes up. If you try to discuss it you are automatically a right wing bigot.

13 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Good post!

 

USA/UK , not so different.

 

Different names.  Different faces.

 

Same Bullochs.

 

At least your administration is trying to fix the issue.

 

Our adminstration pretends to try to fix it while contining as normal behind the scenes. Labour are a disgrace. Causing damage that will take decades to undo. All of it deliberate. 

23 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Bring back Guy Fawkes, and then start again. 

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wKn1R6fekk4&pp=ygUPViBtb3ZpZSB2IHNjZW5l

13 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

On 6/22/2025 at 5:03 PM, Social Media said:

claims that Britain prioritises [economic migrants seeking a free ride] over its own homeless citizens

 

I was watching a video today about the southern US border and crossings. Most of the people I saw in the video were Asian.

13 hours ago, Summerinsiam said:

I agree, but the housing shortage is due to primarily to a decades long failure in housing policy and the fact that  not enough affordable homes have been built to keep pace with population growth and changes in household formation. It has nothing to do with asylum seekers or people coming across the channel on dinghies. Lol. Blaming such problems on them is just lazy, incorrect and the playbook of the far-right It is far from bs. You really should read more widely and check your facts.

Not enough houses being built is government policy.

No problem covering the countryside with solar panels and wind farms, but don't try and get planning permission to build some houses or park any mobile homes!

More red meat for AN resident racists.

The reason for the homeless problem in UK can be laid firmly at Thatcher’s doorstep. Regardless of the merits or otherwise of her right to buy policy, the fact that she ruled that the proceeds of such sales must not be used to replace the lost housing stock was nothing short of a criminal act.

 

6 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

the fact that she ruled that the proceeds of such sales must not be used to replace the lost housing stock was nothing short of a criminal act.

 

 

  Do you have a link to that claim ?

 

12 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

More red meat for AN resident racists.

The reason for the homeless problem in UK can be laid firmly at Thatcher’s doorstep. Regardless of the merits or otherwise of her right to buy policy, the fact that she ruled that the proceeds of such sales must not be used to replace the lost housing stock was nothing short of a criminal act.

 

Margaret Thatcher left government 35 years ago. Since then we have had various Tory administrations and 13 years of Labour under Blair and Brown.

 

Blaming her for the current (2025) housing shortage is a bit like blaming Henry VIII for the decline in Sunday church attendance in the Church of England!

ChatGPT is a rather better source than the Daily Mail!

 

British local authorities don’t allocate council (social) housing to asylum seekers the way they do for local homeless people. The systems involved are quite separate, but asylum seekers do rely heavily on temporary or emergency accommodation — often putting extra pressure on housing services, even though it’s not the same as social housing.

---

🏠 1. Council Housing vs. Asylum Accommodation

• Council (social) housing:

  • Run by councils or housing associations.

  • Eligibility is based on criteria like income, savings, local connection.

  • Asylum seekers are ineligible and cannot join waiting lists.

  • Around 90% of social lets go to UK nationals.

• Asylum seeker accommodation:

  • Provided by the Home Office, not through social housing schemes.

  • Includes hotels, hostels, private-sector housing via contracts

  • Intended only as temporary housing while claims are processed.

---

🆘 2. Support After Recognition

Once asylum is granted, people must leave Home Office housing (typically within 28 days, now extended to 56 days). Then:

• They can apply to local councils for homelessness help, not council housing per se 

• Numbers have surged: e.g., over 9,500 refugee households needed council help in 2023, up from ~3,300 in 2022 

• In some areas (like Glasgow), up to half of new homeless people are refugees.

---

⚠️ 3. Homeless Local Families Often First in Line

• Local homeless individuals/families, especially those in priority need (children, risk, disability, etc.), are legally entitled to council-provided temporary accommodation, and possibly permanent social housing.

• But councils face chronic shortages and funding pressures — often resorting to gatekeeping, delaying or denying help

---

📊 Summary Comparison

Group	Council Housing Access	Temporary Accommodation
Local homeless people	✅ Eligible (means-tested)	✅ Councils must accommodate them under homelessness law
Asylum seekers (in flight)	❌ Ineligible	✅ Provided by Home Office (hotels, contracts)
Recognised refugees	❌ May apply as homeless	✅ Councils must consider them; growing numbers request help

---

🔍 4. What’s Driving the Debate?

• Tension and misconceptions: With rising numbers of recognised refugees seeking council help, some locals worry they’re “jumping the queue.” But that's misunderstanding: asylum seekers haven’t queued for council housing — refugees are entering the homelessness process .

• Council strain: Many areas are overwhelmed. For example, Glasgow asked the Home Office to pause dispersals due to acute housing pressure — asylum housing costs are £26.5 m this year and rising

---

✅ Conclusion

• Council/social housing is primarily reserved for UK or settled residents and is not used to house asylum seekers.

• However, once asylum seekers receive refugee status and lose government-provided housing, they often turn to council homelessness services, which are already under severe strain.

• This may indirectly reduce housing availability for local homeless—due to scarcity, not preferential policy.

16 hours ago, quake said:

 

 Only thing missing in the pic,  is a beer in one hand and a spliff in the other.

for the other party goers on the bus.

The true face,  of Broken Britain.

 

 

What you talkin' bout? These the childrenz of the people that took the Blitz and beat Hitler. They the inheritors of the lines of men that defeated Napoleon. They the future. They British now.

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

ChatGPT is a rather better source than the Daily Mail!

 

British local authorities don’t allocate council (social) housing to asylum seekers the way they do for local homeless people. The systems involved are quite separate, but asylum seekers do rely heavily on temporary or emergency accommodation — often putting extra pressure on housing services, even though it’s not the same as social housing.

---

🏠 1. Council Housing vs. Asylum Accommodation

• Council (social) housing:

  • Run by councils or housing associations.

  • Eligibility is based on criteria like income, savings, local connection.

  • Asylum seekers are ineligible and cannot join waiting lists.

  • Around 90% of social lets go to UK nationals.

• Asylum seeker accommodation:

  • Provided by the Home Office, not through social housing schemes.

  • Includes hotels, hostels, private-sector housing via contracts

  • Intended only as temporary housing while claims are processed.

---

🆘 2. Support After Recognition

Once asylum is granted, people must leave Home Office housing (typically within 28 days, now extended to 56 days). Then:

• They can apply to local councils for homelessness help, not council housing per se 

• Numbers have surged: e.g., over 9,500 refugee households needed council help in 2023, up from ~3,300 in 2022 

• In some areas (like Glasgow), up to half of new homeless people are refugees.

---

⚠️ 3. Homeless Local Families Often First in Line

• Local homeless individuals/families, especially those in priority need (children, risk, disability, etc.), are legally entitled to council-provided temporary accommodation, and possibly permanent social housing.

• But councils face chronic shortages and funding pressures — often resorting to gatekeeping, delaying or denying help

---

📊 Summary Comparison

Group	Council Housing Access	Temporary Accommodation
Local homeless people	✅ Eligible (means-tested)	✅ Councils must accommodate them under homelessness law
Asylum seekers (in flight)	❌ Ineligible	✅ Provided by Home Office (hotels, contracts)
Recognised refugees	❌ May apply as homeless	✅ Councils must consider them; growing numbers request help

 

---

🔍 4. What’s Driving the Debate?

• Tension and misconceptions: With rising numbers of recognised refugees seeking council help, some locals worry they’re “jumping the queue.” But that's misunderstanding: asylum seekers haven’t queued for council housing — refugees are entering the homelessness process .

• Council strain: Many areas are overwhelmed. For example, Glasgow asked the Home Office to pause dispersals due to acute housing pressure — asylum housing costs are £26.5 m this year and rising

---

✅ Conclusion

• Council/social housing is primarily reserved for UK or settled residents and is not used to house asylum seekers.

• However, once asylum seekers receive refugee status and lose government-provided housing, they often turn to council homelessness services, which are already under severe strain.

• This may indirectly reduce housing availability for local homeless—due to scarcity, not preferential policy.

UK residents have to join a queue and wait fir something to become available, asylum seekers will be housed quicker as government pays full price for accomodation 356 days including food.

So essentially asylum seekers get better treatment

15 hours ago, soalbundy said:

The best will just leave.

 

They already have, over the last 30 years or so, most of those that haven't, can't afford to...

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Do you have a link to that claim ?

 

 

It's perfectly true, I lived through it and can remember...

2 hours ago, JAG said:

Margaret Thatcher left government 35 years ago. Since then we have had various Tory administrations and 13 years of Labour under Blair and Brown.

 

Blaming her for the current (2025) housing shortage is a bit like blaming Henry VIII for the decline in Sunday church attendance in the Church of England!

 

Complete nonsense, I can't remember the exact number but over several years, several million homes and flats were sold off, and the councils were not allowed to use the money to replace them. The UK has been very short of affordable places to rent, ever since...

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

ChatGPT is a rather better source than the Daily Mail!

 

British local authorities don’t allocate council (social) housing to asylum seekers the way they do for local homeless people. The systems involved are quite separate, but asylum seekers do rely heavily on temporary or emergency accommodation — often putting extra pressure on housing services, even though it’s not the same as social housing.

---

🏠 1. Council Housing vs. Asylum Accommodation

• Council (social) housing:

  • Run by councils or housing associations.

  • Eligibility is based on criteria like income, savings, local connection.

  • Asylum seekers are ineligible and cannot join waiting lists.

  • Around 90% of social lets go to UK nationals.

• Asylum seeker accommodation:

  • Provided by the Home Office, not through social housing schemes.

  • Includes hotels, hostels, private-sector housing via contracts

  • Intended only as temporary housing while claims are processed.

---

🆘 2. Support After Recognition

Once asylum is granted, people must leave Home Office housing (typically within 28 days, now extended to 56 days). Then:

• They can apply to local councils for homelessness help, not council housing per se 

• Numbers have surged: e.g., over 9,500 refugee households needed council help in 2023, up from ~3,300 in 2022 

• In some areas (like Glasgow), up to half of new homeless people are refugees.

---

⚠️ 3. Homeless Local Families Often First in Line

• Local homeless individuals/families, especially those in priority need (children, risk, disability, etc.), are legally entitled to council-provided temporary accommodation, and possibly permanent social housing.

• But councils face chronic shortages and funding pressures — often resorting to gatekeeping, delaying or denying help

---

📊 Summary Comparison

Group	Council Housing Access	Temporary Accommodation
Local homeless people	✅ Eligible (means-tested)	✅ Councils must accommodate them under homelessness law
Asylum seekers (in flight)	❌ Ineligible	✅ Provided by Home Office (hotels, contracts)
Recognised refugees	❌ May apply as homeless	✅ Councils must consider them; growing numbers request help

 

---

🔍 4. What’s Driving the Debate?

• Tension and misconceptions: With rising numbers of recognised refugees seeking council help, some locals worry they’re “jumping the queue.” But that's misunderstanding: asylum seekers haven’t queued for council housing — refugees are entering the homelessness process .

• Council strain: Many areas are overwhelmed. For example, Glasgow asked the Home Office to pause dispersals due to acute housing pressure — asylum housing costs are £26.5 m this year and rising

---

✅ Conclusion

• Council/social housing is primarily reserved for UK or settled residents and is not used to house asylum seekers.

• However, once asylum seekers receive refugee status and lose government-provided housing, they often turn to council homelessness services, which are already under severe strain.

• This may indirectly reduce housing availability for local homeless—due to scarcity, not preferential policy.

At last - an educated voice over the din of the far-right nonsense being spouted so far. 

I will also add another salient point. One of the main reason there is such a problem with asylum seekers is the backlog in processing, created initially through Covid but still continues to present time. https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-uks-asylum-backlog/ . 'In 2024, the UK saw a record number of asylum applications, with 108,138 applications received, representing 18% more than in 2023. This figure includes both main applicants and their dependents. At the end of 2024, the UK's asylum backlog stood at approximately 91,000 applications awaiting an initial decision - however, also in 2024 there were 8,164 enforced returns to another country, an increase of 28% on the previous year (6,361), there were 25,186 voluntary returns, up by 24% compared to 2023, 23,009 were refused entry at port and subsequently departed (‘port returns’) and in 2024 and there were 5,034 foreign national offenders returns made in 2024, which is an increase of 25% compared to the previous year.'   https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-december-2024/how-many-people-are-returned-from-the-uk

As brewsterbudgen has pointed out, whilst being processed, asylum seekers have to be temporarily housed (they don't get social/council houses) racking up a huge bill, but when approved, they then apply for social housing, putting a huge strain on local councils who have neither the money nor the houses to offer. And before you all start crapping on about 'preferential treatment', ALL applications are given the same rigorous criteria which prioritises those with the greatest housing need, with a focus on families, homelessness, poor living conditions, health and welfare, and specific vulnerable groups. The idea that asylum seekers get priority is plain wrong - when they are ready for social housing they go through the exact same process as a UK person and get no preferential treatment.  https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/migrants-will-not-get-priority-over-britons-social-housing-says-government-2024-09-30/   

And for the likes of JohnnyF getting his usual dig into the Labour government (who have only been in power for 6 months) or the other poster saying not to blame Thatcher, first Thatcher initiated the 'right-to- buy' council houses policy (without replacing council stock) which started all of this and the Tories have had 14 years to sort all this out but were so obsessed with the abject failure that is Brexit, they have done literally nothing but let this build up to what is now a crisis point.  

race wars are coming, 

It doesn't bode well for the lazy and entitled.  

50 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

UK residents have to join a queue and wait fir something to become available, asylum seekers will be housed quicker as government pays full price for accomodation 356 days including food.

So essentially asylum seekers get better treatment

Wrong. See my post above.

2 minutes ago, madone said:

race wars are coming, 

Don't be such a drama queen. This is Britain after all. Apart from a few uneducated idiots, the VAST majority of the UK understands the problem and although getting impatient for a solution, will not be resorting to any 'race wars' any time soon. 

Just now, johnnybangkok said:

Don't be such a drama queen. This is Britain after all.

 

I was taking the piss, but i do not share your faith in Britain and more than i beleive in the US.

 

Quote

Apart from a few uneducated idiots, the VAST majority of the UK understands the problem.

Those uneducated idiots are the most easily turned to violence.

 

Take a look around you, peace is fragile right now -- it's just too easy to manipulate folks when every moment of their lives is media-saturated. 

 

14 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

So In the last ten years there have been about 8 million migrants enter the country, net migration so a real increase, so about the size of whole of London. And the UK doesn't provide enough housing for the indigenous population. Now add that will be water shortages as there are reservoirs being constructed. Probably not enough schools, hospitals, increase in the pension age to 68 coming. Will there be enough jobs. Yes the number of migrants coming across the channel pales into insignificance against the total net migration in any year. But then I guess the expat British will be paying UK tax on pensions so your contribution to housing them in hotels is welcome. The constant reference to everything being far right doesn't solve the problem e

The undisputable fact is that the vast majority of migrants to the UK are there legally, and it is widely recognised that they are needed to support its economy and public services.