Iran orders closure of Strait of Hormuz — putting one-fifth of world’s oil supply at risk

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

But, but Xi wanted to bomb Australia.

The rules say if Xi has more ships and planes he can do it.

He claimed he had to remove the threat, even though his intelligence services reported there was no threat.

He really, really.....bigly.........wanted to do it.

That makes it okay.

Stop making things up. How old are you. Why Trump went in is perfectly clear. Iran has/had uranium enriched to 60% hidden deep under a mountain and are/were making thousands of rockets. 60% is way more than what's needed for domestic nuclear energy production and can easily and quickly be further enriched to a weapons grade 90%. As I stated Trump has denied the worst fundamentalist Islamic regime on the planet from producing nukes. You're response to this is some ridiculous hypothetical scenario about China bombing Australia. 

[save the frogs]

good. shut it down.

let's start using solar panels and windmills. 

 

[dinsdale]

13 minutes ago, Hummin said:

We got it, Obamas fault. Of course

 

Lame attempt to excuse the developing world crisis leading up to ww3

No. It's demonstrating that similar actions have been taken by both Democrat and Republican presidents. Seems in your mind it's only bad when it comes from the republican side.

[phetphet]

If Iran can hit tel Aviv with a missile, I'm pretty sure they could hit an oil tanker, air cover or not. They only need to sink one to scare the others from attempting to get through.

 

 

 

 

[Hummin]

17 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

No. It's demonstrating that similar actions have been taken by both Democrat and Republican presidents. Seems in your mind it's only bad when it comes from the republican side.

There is no such double standards in me, just wondering when other people going to stop the nonsense, blaming left her right, blue or red. Two wrong doesn't make one right.

 

So many lame excuses and ignorant defenders of continously disaster made by a fraction of the human population for the best of the free world. 

 

The hypocrisy 

[frank83628]

18 minutes ago, Hummin said:

We got it, Obamas fault. Of course

 

Lame attempt to excuse the developing world crisis leading up to ww3

I am against what Trump did, but what were you saying when Ukraine was potentially going to be WW3?

[jerrymahoney]

7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

No. It's demonstrating that similar actions have been taken by both Democrat and Republican presidents. Seems in your mind it's only bad when it comes from the republican side.

Trump's team launches group to unseat GOP Rep. Thomas Massie
Trump has heavily criticized Massie, of Kentucky, who has opposed his strikes on Iran and his "big, beautiful bill" in Congress.

 

Massie also partnered with Rep. Ro Khanna, D-Calif., last week to introduce a war powers resolution meant to “prohibit involvement in Iran.”

 

“The Constitution does not permit the executive branch to unilaterally commit an act of war against a sovereign nation that hasn’t attacked the United States,” Massie said of the resolution in a statement at the time.

 

After the strikes in Iran on Saturday, Massie dug into Trump’s decision, writing on social media, “This is not Constitutional.”

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-thomas-massie-criticism-us-strikes-iran-kentucky-maga-rcna214387

 

 

[NoDisplayName]

8 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Stop making things up. How old are you. Why Trump went in is perfectly clear. Iran has/had uranium enriched to 60% hidden deep under a mountain and are/were making thousands of rockets. 60% is way more than what's needed for domestic nuclear energy production and can easily and quickly be further enriched to a weapons grade 90%. As I stated Trump has denied the worst fundamentalist Islamic regime on the planet from producing nukes. You're response to this is some ridiculous hypothetical scenario about China bombing Australia. 

 

So..........Trump WANTED to blow 'em up.

Nothing legal about his actions under international law.

Just so we're clear on that bigly important point.

 

[daveAustin]

1 hour ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Iranian airspace belongs to Iran.

How can the US just fly in and bomb them?

Because they’re a super power and have man sized balls. Iran would do the same if it could. Threatening to close the Strait was predictable and lame. They might even try to mine it. Either way, unless they meekly give in, it won’t end well for them. 

[shdmn]

 

 

MAGAts are so predictable.

[Hummin]

28 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I am against what Trump did, but what were you saying when Ukraine was potentially going to be WW3?

If you go back to the very first tread you will see, but as long the war reached a no point of return, I'm all in for continue fighting. Can not give in to Putins terms. Russia cant dictate a sovereign country, and murdering innocent civilians. Terror bombing civilians to end a war.

 

Well UK and US did that in Iraq for a decade, so? 

 

The fight for resources and territory is real

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

“The Constitution does not permit the executive branch to unilaterally commit an act of war against a sovereign nation that hasn’t attacked the United States,”

The POTUS can deploy a military action in the instance that there is a threat to the US, US personnel and or interests, and in defence of allies without authorization from congress. I have pointed out this fact several times.

[NoDisplayName]

3 hours ago, annotator said:

Iran’s parliament has voted to close the Strait of Hormuz,

 

Now that's democracy!

 

When did the US Congress vote to declare war on Iran?

[impulse]

It's times like this that show us why it's best not to drain the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to buy votes.

 

[jerrymahoney]

21 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

The POTUS can deploy a military action in the instance that there is a threat to the US, US personnel and or interests, and in defence of allies without authorization from congress. I have pointed out this fact several times.

And I have pointed out that some of the contention -- valid or not -- as to the constitutionality of Trump's actions comes from the Republican side as well.

 

However I will note that in many instances the above may be written as:

 

The POTUS can deploy a military action in the instance that there is a(n) IMMINENT  threat to the US,

[dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

So..........Trump WANTED to blow 'em up.

Nothing legal about his actions under international law.

Just so we're clear on that bigly important point.

 

International law? You're defending the worst fanatical Islamist regime on earth. Only thing the US attacked was three nuclear enrichment facilities with precision strikes to deny the aforementioned fundamentalist Islamic regime from making nukes. This was not a declaration of war. This was a net benefit to the world. Stop crying about it.

[blaze master]

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

Does Trump have a pen and a phone?

 

Autosign.

[dinsdale]

6 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Now that's democracy!

 

When did the US Congress vote to declare war on Iran?

Oh dear! Some people just can't accept fact. The US is not at war with Iran. If it comes to war with Iran then that needs to go through congress.

[NoDisplayName]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Oh dear! Some people just can't accept fact. The US is not at war with Iran. If it comes to war with Iran then that needs to go through congress.

 

Good to know that if Putin bombs the ports and staging areas in Poland used to transfer wunderwaffles into Ukraine, that won't be considered an act of war.

[NoDisplayName]

7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

International law? You're defending the worst fanatical Islamist regime on earth. Only thing the US attacked was three nuclear enrichment facilities with precision strikes to deny the aforementioned fundamentalist Islamic regime from making nukes. This was not a declaration of war. This was a net benefit to the world. Stop crying about it.

 

So you admit Trump had no legal justification under international law to bomb a sovereign nation.

 

Thanks.

[Tug]

52 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

They can do alot of things to disrupt. The use of remote control speedboats laden with explosives has long been a security issue in the Gulf.

They also have submarines small ones and high speed torpedoes I’d be curious as to know has their navy been wiped out?anyway looks like convoy duty for sure putting a lot of folks at risk….thats just the (hard) targets we all know how they like to go after (soft) targets….but don’t worry we have that crack professional home security team to rely on…….hopefully it will be over soon and be successful in our favor.

[Social Media]

Off topic trolling posts removed @MalcolmB 

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

So you admit Trump had no legal justification under international law to bomb a sovereign nation.

 

Thanks.

International law vs taking out Iran's capability to produce nukes. Which should take precedent? 

[bubblegum]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

International law vs taking out Iran's capability to produce nukes. Which should take precedent? 

The law but in your peoples mind that is only to be used as propaganda. Party of law, my ass.

[HappyExpat57]

46 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

good. shut it down.

let's start using solar panels and windmills. 

 

Don't you remember? The liar in chief said windmills cause cancer and kill birds.

[dinsdale]

9 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

The law but in your peoples mind that is only to be used as propaganda. Party of law, my ass.

Wrong option. Go in and blow up it up before nukes can be made. Trump did this. Correct decision and has been supported by countries around the world. Only one's not supporting it are the isolationists in the Republican party and the everything Trump does is bad Democrats and the deranged loony left.

[Mike_Hunt]

2 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Iranian airspace belongs to Iran.

How can the US just fly in and bomb them?

They just did it.

[Mike_Hunt]

Iran is looking to lose their Navy.

[Mike_Hunt]

14 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Don't you remember? The liar in chief said windmills cause cancer and kill birds.

Windmills do kill birds

[AndreasHG]

4 hours ago, annotator said:

Iran’s parliament has voted to close the Strait of Hormuz

 

LOL. The Iranian parliament is a rubber-stamp, puppet council devoid of any real power.

The only real power holder in Iran is an arteriosclerotic octogenarian mullah who has spent 74 of his 86 years of life chanting "Death to America, Death to Israel", consistency being his only remarkable achievement.

 

His unpopular, criminal, sectarian regime has been circling the drain for a while. It is time for the United States to form a coalition, finish the job, and free the Iranian people from the yoke that oppresses them. 

 

I have had the privilege of doing business with Iranians. Wonderful, educated, well-mannered people. They deserve much better than a government of fanatics and illiterate mullahs.

 

Long life to Israel, Long life to Ukraine, Long life to the USA!