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Cannabis Chaos: 12,000 Thai Shops Face Closure Under New Rules

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1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

 

Members of "The alphabet community" ( gay trans etc) who cant be criticised

 

 

Surely not all poofters smoke pot.

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  • Great news!

  • When it was legalized.... that was for medicinal purposes but the Thai's took the piss and the mess we have now is the result.   should make it illegal again and throw the smelly stoners in

  • Ridiculous backward step taking billions of baht out of the economy.

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10 hours ago, Bagwain said:

I read awhile back that if they tried this then they would get a class action going to sue the Gov for losses. 

 

Does Thai law allow class action suits?

I dont participate in any form of drug use including smoking a normal cigarette but yet again Thailand shows its inconsistency when making laws them changing them  it just shows the incompetence of Thai law makers . The report states up to 12.000 businesses could be forced to close I suggest it’s double that figure will the government compensate them for the loss of their capital investment as well as future income loss somehow I doubt it . By introducing these new requirements I can see like gambling that the supply and demand will be done in dark rooms .Having said all that we could be looking at a new PM in the next few days / weeks so the laws could be thrown out or delayed even further 

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Do you know that your brain cells die when you take this stuff often. How many brain cells are left? Guess!

Still waiting for you to take the IQ test and post a screenshot of your results Dr. Noob.

 

https://international-iq-test.com/en/

I've said it before, will say it again, I don't feel sorry for them...they invested in an illegal business.

4 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

You're mistaken me. Look for "Dr. Noob". Maybe Google will help.

 

OFF TOPIC

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/cannabis-bigger-danger-than-heroin-and-must-be-changed-to-class-a-drug-top-cops-say/ar-AA1HDS8b?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=0bff7a3cf88f44fd830e03e25d8a5b27&ei=16

 

Long term use of cannabis certainly can be drastic: psychosis, memory loss, a boring personality,  the old ageing hippie phrase, ageing stoners nowadays, I guess.

However, some of my friends have been toking since the early 70s and apart from the fact they're still playing 'Harvest' by Neil Young (a classic album), they're remarkably normal.

 

However, the article above warns: The senior officers also warned cannabis’s effects were so devastating it had “more birth defects associated with it than thalidomide”, the morning sickness drug which caused deformities among thousands of babies. 

I suspect a lot more unpleasant side effects of smoking cannabis are going to emerge as more research is done.

 

 

37 minutes ago, suzannegoh said:

Were weed shops paying taxes?

How would anybody on here have access to that information? It would be confidential between the owner of the shop and the revenue department, I seriously doubt there is any obligation to inform any asean now members

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

the only ones moaning about cannabis are a few intolerant  bigots on this forum whos narrow minds have been corrupted by reefer madness propaganda from the beginning of the last century.

Try telling that to the parents of Daniel Anjorin:

 

Man guilty of murdering boy with sword in Hainault

Monzo had gone into a cannabis-induced psychosis before the attack, and had killed and skinned his pet cat before heading to Hainault, north-east London, the court was told.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyrg6ynnx9o

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

I reckon you're new on AN?

If not you would have read ALL my posts about cannabis use/misuse.

Btw. If you don't like it (as a user I suppose) scroll on.

 

 

 

 

I reckon you're new on AN?

Not learned how to check someone's joining date.

Maybe you should leave off the sauce.

 

Btw. If you don't like it (as a user I suppose) scroll on.

Yes, and you could do the same instead of posting your dislike of cannabis on nearly every cannabis thread.

You have made your point, you are now just posting the same boring whinges.

 

 

 

 

I'm afraid to imagine that these 12.000 cannabis shops will be turned into casinos.  image.gif.91cea200fd6db9cd471392d39c841a73.gif

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4 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Try telling that to the parents of Daniel Anjorin:

 

Man guilty of murdering boy with sword in Hainault

Monzo had gone into a cannabis-induced psychosis before the attack, and had killed and skinned his pet cat before heading to Hainault, north-east London, the court was told.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyrg6ynnx9o

Are you serious, that was just a pathetic attempt at mitigating circumstances by the defence team of that nutter. How could they possibly know cannabis was responsible, did they give him a bit more later to see if it happened again?  More absolute rubbish ,  you actually wasted your time surfing the web for a horror story related to cannabis , you have issues. Ask yourself this , considering the millions of people who do use cannabis where are all the other examples

 Plenty of people have died as a result of the actions of nutters triggered by islam or indeed alcohol, so they both be banned ?

44 minutes ago, Puccini said:

 

As Thailand uses metric measures, I doubt very much that there was ever any law mentioning that "2oz" was legal.

What does Thailand have to do with Jamaica?

 

In February 2015, Jamaica's legislature voted to amend the nation's cannabis laws:[9]

  • Possession of up to two ounces (57 g) is a petty offence, and will not result in a criminal record[10]
  • Cultivation of five or fewer plants is permitted
  • Practitioners of the Rastafari faith may use cannabis for religious purposes
  • Tourists with a prescription for medical marijuana may apply for permits to purchase small amounts
  • The amendments open the possibility of a licensing authority to deal with cultivation and distribution of medical marijuana
  • Jamaica will continue to prosecute traffickers and target the international cannabis trade
4 minutes ago, Look Chang said:

I'm afraid to imagine that these 12.000 cannabis shops will be turned into casinos.  image.gif.91cea200fd6db9cd471392d39c841a73.gif

Jesus just how big do you think they are?

8 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Thais also buy and smoke dope and have been for a very long time. The difference of late is that they didn't have to get it through criminal channels. This is what it will now go back to. Do you think this is a positive thing? People will continue to smoke dope. This cannot be stopped.

This is true.

 

But a certain type of tourist is attracted to countries where drug taking is legal. There has been a huge influx of wronguns coming for holidays in Thailand since cannabis was effectively legalised. 

 

I've seen it in Samui and Patong. All male groups of 20-30 year olds taking over the place, and inevitably getting into fights. Samui and Patong used to be a mixed crowd (age and gender plus couples etc.). Now it's more more like Magaluf!

 

I don't think cannabis is necessarily the bad guy, but legalising it attracts the wrong crowd. 

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50 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Surely not all poofters smoke pot.

buggered if I know

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Are you serious, that was just a pathetic attempt at mitigating circumstances by the defence team of that nutter. How could they possibly know cannabis was responsible, did they give him a bit more later to see if it happened again?  More absolute rubbish ,  you actually wasted your time surfing the web for a horror story related to cannabis , you have issues. Ask yourself this , considering the millions of people who do use cannabis where are all the other examples

 Plenty of people have died as a result of the actions of nutters triggered by islam or indeed alcohol, so they both be banned ?

No, I was listening to a doctor talking about cannabis induced psychosis on the radio the other day, and she mentioned this case. It wasn't hard to find. 

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12 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

This is true.

 

But a certain type of tourist is attracted to countries where drug taking is legal. There has been a huge influx of wronguns coming for holidays in Thailand since cannabis was effectively legalised. 

 

I've seen it in Samui and Patong. All male groups of 20-30 year olds taking over the place, and inevitably getting into fights. Samui and Patong used to be a mixed crowd (age and gender plus couples etc.). Now it's more more like Magaluf!

 

I don't think cannabis is necessarily the bad guy, but legalising it attracts the wrong crowd. 

There's also an influx for anabolic steroids but instead of doing something about that Thailand introduces a Muay Thai visa and it's here that steroid use is greatest.  As for the dope smoking tourists dope was always available. Just had to be careful. This isn't about dope smoking tourists though. This is about politics and this is down to Thaksin. As for people getting stoned and "inevitably getting into fights" this ain't the dope doing that. 

38 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

I reckon you're new on AN?

Not learned how to check someone's joining date.

Maybe you should leave off the sauce.

 

Btw. If you don't like it (as a user I suppose) scroll on.

Yes, and you could do the same instead of posting your dislike of cannabis on nearly every cannabis thread.

You have made your point, you are now just posting the same boring whinges.

 

 

 

 

Off topic

The country has dug itself a hole it can't climb out of. There are  more than a 1000 dispensaries in Phuket alone. 

54 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Are you serious, that was just a pathetic attempt at mitigating circumstances by the defence team of that nutter. How could they possibly know cannabis was responsible, did they give him a bit more later to see if it happened again?  More absolute rubbish ,  you actually wasted your time surfing the web for a horror story related to cannabis , you have issues. Ask yourself this , considering the millions of people who do use cannabis where are all the other examples

 Plenty of people have died as a result of the actions of nutters triggered by islam or indeed alcohol, so they both be banned ?

No need for whataboutism - Islam or alcohol, this is about cannabis.

An extract from the article below:

 

Some people who use marijuana may experience acute symptoms of psychosis, including paranoia, delusions, disorganized thinking, or even hallucinations. 

 

It is not very common, but cannabis-induced psychosis can be very serious and may need to be treated.

 

Most cases of psychosis related to cannabis are acute and temporary, but there are some troubling associations between marijuana use and the development or worsening of chronic psychotic conditions like schizophrenia. 

 

https://www.brightquest.com/cannabis-induced-psychosis/

 

Everyone who has been a regular toker over the years has seen examples of friends, or indeed themselves, experiences moments of paranoia, so it's not too much of a stretch to see that it can lead to longer term conditions in those who are vulnerable.

It's certainly not as bad as crack etc, but it would be good to limit its use in my view, though how exactly, I'm not sure.

 

12 hours ago, Bagwain said:

I read awhile back that if they tried this then they would get a class action going to sue the Gov for losses. 

and so they should

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14 minutes ago, bannork said:

 

Everyone who has been a regular toker over the years has seen examples of friends, or indeed themselves, experiences moments of paranoia, so it's not too much of a stretch to see that it can lead to longer term conditions in those who are vulnerable.

It's certainly not as bad as crack etc, but it would be good to limit its use in my view, though how exactly, I'm not sure.

       Sorry to disappoint but hand on heart in over 40 years of usage by me and many friends and acquaintances I have never known anybody who suffered any of these serious psychological issues, not one. 

       I have heard stories but invariably they come from those with an anti cannabis mindset 

2 hours ago, bannork said:

The senior officers also warned cannabis’s effects were so devastating it had “more birth defects associated with it than thalidomide”, the morning sickness drug which caused deformities among thousands of babies. 

Really?  how has this been kept secret for so long?  They must think we are stupid,

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

I was listening to a doctor talking about cannabis induced psychosis on the radio the other day

As one does :cheesy:

23 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

       Sorry to disappoint but hand on heart in over 40 years of usage by me and many friends and acquaintances I have never known anybody who suffered any of these serious psychological issues, not one. 

       I have heard stories but invariably they come from those with an anti cannabis mindset 

I know plenty of people who have experienced spells of paranoia when stoned, nearly all recovered though one slipped into periods of psychosis lasting days at a time. He's since given up under his psychiatrist's orders.

I've never been anti cannabis but with the strong concoctions available today and heavy usage by even young people, I think people should be open-minded about possible effects on health.

Unknown consequences of high potency use. 

The trend toward higher-potency marijuana could pose additional, yet-unknown risks. Twenty years ago, the average THC content in confiscated marijuana was less than 4%. In 2018, it was more than 15%. Researchers do not yet know the full extent that these higher concentrations of THC will have on the body and brain, especially the developing brain.

https://americanaddictioncenters.org/marijuana-rehab/long-term-effects

 

That's a massive increase in potency, bring back the old days of Panama Red, Lebanese hash and Nepalese,

 

 

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11 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Stoners are dead <deleted>s... end of.

 

How are stoners different to drinkers? 

I smoke weed to relax and fall asleep.

I used to have to drink until I was drunk to get the same effect from alcohol and then waste half the next day feeling rough. 

Being able to get weed means I've not touched alcohol for 5 & 1/2 years!  

I'm vastly more productive, no hangovers, weed is cheaper (by far) and not drinking has helped me get down to 65 kg with a flat belly!

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

There's also an influx for anabolic steroids but instead of doing something about that Thailand introduces a Muay Thai visa and it's here that steroid use is greatest.  As for the dope smoking tourists dope was always available. Just had to be careful. This isn't about dope smoking tourists though. This is about politics and this is down to Thaksin. As for people getting stoned and "inevitably getting into fights" this ain't the dope doing that. 

See the last comment on my post:

 

"I don't think cannabis is necessarily the bad guy, but legalising it attracts the wrong crowd."

 

I'm not saying dope smoking makes people get into fights. I'm saying young, trouble-making chavvy men are more likely to holiday in a country where drug taking is legal. 

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