Anybody considering growing their own again?

[tomster]

After legalisation in June 2022 loads of people gave growing at home ago, but since then most seemed to have stopped because a. it is actually quite hard here if you are not used to growing in high heat & humidty, and b. the price of flower is currently that cheap there is no point.

 

However, the price of flower is about to go North as the low grade growers stop producing low grade weed that nobody wants, the new GACP requirement will knock most of them out of production.

 

So lets say the price went back to 150-250 Baht per gram for even the mid-range, avergage flower (which is very possible) would you consider growing your own at home?

 

It costs about 25-35 Baht per gram to do so, for reference.

 

Cheers.

[MalcolmB]

Yes I will.

 

i was wondering for outdoor what is the planting month and what month is harvest? 
And any other tricks?

[BritManToo]

14 minutes ago, tomster said:

lets say the price went back to 150-250 Baht per gram for even the mid-range, avergage flower (which is very possible) would you consider growing your own at home?

 

It costs about 25-35 Baht per gram to do so, for reference.

I was growing my own indoors in a tent, about 10bht/g Inc electric for the LEDs.

But at 2-5bht from the online stores, not worth growing my own.

 

If it's over 20bht/g I'll start growing my own again.

 

Outdoors (Oct - Jan), too many problems, too hot, too bright, too wet, too much wind, too many bugs. The outside product just wasn't worth doing.

[Bday Prang]

           Definitely, I'm no expert, but everything I have "grown" here has got me a damn sight more twatted than anything I have bought here on line over the past 3 years.  and that's just using free seeds salvaged from brick weed.

            I never put any real time effort or money into growing it, simply germinated a few seeds and watered as req'd, and removed the males once they started to reveal their gender    

Once the flowering was complete chopped em down dried em out in the house , and set about removing the inevitable seeds,

           The results were nothing special to look at  but there was plenty of it , it was  sticky and it smelt ok

The biggest surprise was upon smoking it , I didn't expect much but 1 spliff got me absolutely wacked, and I'm talkin "nailed to the couch" for a couple of hours, a long lasting proper high  which I have never achieved with any of the stuff I have bought on line here (30% THC ? really )

           So I'm looking forward to growing again , I will put a bit more time and effort into it this time , but I won't be paying silly money for seeds. I'll stick with the indigenous variety, I just think that due to natural evolution it  might be a bit more resistant to  Thailand's bugs and challenging climate,and I had no real issues last time. Plenty of cows and pigs around here for some natural fertiliser.

          I won't be using any of these growth hormones that apparently are common these days either,Firstly I know nothing about that stuff, and secondly,  call me "old school"  but  I actually  prefer my buds to look like, well, nice sticky buds,  and not nuggets of green pumice stone,  devoid of resin and even the tiniest leaf , and  as hard as rocks

         I will probably take a load of cuttings, selective breeding may be the way forward eventually, but then again  after the first harvest I'll probably lack a lot of motivation 

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, tomster said:

After legalisation in June 2022 loads of people gave growing at home ago, but since then most seemed to have stopped because a. it is actually quite hard here if you are not used to growing in high heat & humidty, and b. the price of flower is currently that cheap there is no point.

 

However, the price of flower is about to go North as the low grade growers stop producing low grade weed that nobody wants, the new GACP requirement will knock most of them out of production.

 

So lets say the price went back to 150-250 Baht per gram for even the mid-range, avergage flower (which is very possible) would you consider growing your own at home?

 

It costs about 25-35 Baht per gram to do so, for reference.

 

Cheers.

       The GACP requirement will be about as comforting and reassuring as all the ISO 9001 quality assurance signs one sees out side construction sites ( like that tower that collapsed) and factories.  These things are meaningless in places like Thailand where everything has its price. 

       Personally I have bought a few  deals of alleged GACP weed, can't comment on the level of toxins and heavy metals, but it was nothing special and it made me cough something rotten  

      I don't think the GACP cert has any bearing on strength either.  I will definitely be growing again

[madone]

1 hour ago, tomster said:

After legalisation in June 2022 loads of people gave growing at home ago, but since then most seemed to have stopped because a. it is actually quite hard here if you are not used to growing in high heat & humidty, and b. the price of flower is currently that cheap there is no point.

 

However, the price of flower is about to go North as the low grade growers stop producing low grade weed that nobody wants, the new GACP requirement will knock most of them out of production.

 

So lets say the price went back to 150-250 Baht per gram for even the mid-range, avergage flower (which is very possible) would you consider growing your own at home?

 

It costs about 25-35 Baht per gram to do so, for reference.

 

Cheers.

 

I grew for a few years during and early post-COVID.

 

The biggest issue is controlling the heat that reduces potency.  Unless you are growing on a large enough scale to justify running AC 24/7, it's a losing game.  

[jvs]

I am growing my own outside.

I have a grow tent all complete with light,fan,filter ,used it one time only.

For me growing outside is still the best.

[BritManToo]

35 minutes ago, jvs said:

I am growing my own outside.

I have a grow tent all complete with light,fan,filter ,used it one time only.

For me growing outside is still the best.

The problem you haven't encountered, 2nd or 3rd crop will be inundated with pests, unless you use fairly serious pesticides.

[Trippy]

I've got a 2x4 foot grow tent in Pattaya. If anyone wants it, free.

[jvs]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

The problem you haven't encountered, 2nd or 3rd crop will be inundated with pests, unless you use fairly serious pesticides.

We do not use any chemicals in our garden,so far pests have not been a problem.

 

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, jvs said:

We do not use any chemicals in our garden,so far pests have not been a problem.

 

It will be some time in the future, you can get it in a tent inside the house too.

[Bday Prang]

7 hours ago, jvs said:

We do not use any chemicals in our garden,so far pests have not been a problem.

 

what type do you grow? I have grown several crops of indigenous type weed from seeds salvaged from some brick weed  with no problems, I think some of the none native exotic strains may be less resilient to pests and mould etc Although I've yet to try, as I can't bring myself to pay 100's of baht for a  seed   Does anywhere sell cuttings? I'd  be more willing to pay for that 

[Ben-hh]

11 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

what type do you grow? I have grown several crops of indigenous type weed from seeds salvaged from some brick weed  with no problems, I think some of the none native exotic strains may be less resilient to pests and mould etc Although I've yet to try, as I can't bring myself to pay 100's of baht for a  seed   Does anywhere sell cuttings? I'd  be more willing to pay for that 

 

try NGK Organic Farm on facebook . they use to sell clones

[impulse]

I've got no dog in the fight on either side.  But I'm curious whether "grow your own" has ever come back to bite any foreigners that cheezed off their neighbors?  Has anyone ever been ratted out and deported for it?

 

[ChipButty]

6 minutes ago, impulse said:

I've got no dog in the fight on either side.  But I'm curious whether "grow your own" has ever come back to bite any foreigners that cheezed off their neighbors?  Has anyone ever been ratted out and deported for it?

 

I was just thinking the same, if you were going to do it you would not have to tell a soul, 

[Quentin Zen]

Everything you see can get you high.    I can tell anyone.  This is just one small place where I grow.    I usually sell to bus drivers.  

[Magictoad]

I presume it seasonal.just like other herbaceous plant which this year is February to July but last year was different.  Growing outside is weather dependent which is changeable. Some of the best I ever had was the leaves that got left  behind in the bottom of a  box. I sold it as Tijuana Gold in London.

Theoretically the leaves have zero THC but this batch certainly did. Growing outside in an English climate was my main source of income for five years.

[jaideedave]

On 7/2/2025 at 10:59 AM, BritManToo said:

I was growing my own indoors in a tent, about 10bht/g Inc electric for the LEDs.

But at 2-5bht from the online stores, not worth growing my own.

 

If it's over 20bht/g I'll start growing my own again.

 

Outdoors (Oct - Jan), too many problems, too hot, too bright, too wet, too much wind, too many bugs. The outside product just wasn't worth doing.

BMT I agree with you.I had a similar tent set up in an unused bathroom shower. The 1000 watt LED light produced way too much heat even with with plenty of fans.I had to resort to ac to stop the plants from burning.(autoflowers) I did get get some decent results but even at 200b / gram it's better for me to just buy it these days.As you say outside growing was hopeless.

[Bday Prang]

38 minutes ago, jaideedave said:

BMT I agree with you.I had a similar tent set up in an unused bathroom shower. The 1000 watt LED light produced way too much heat even with with plenty of fans.I had to resort to ac to stop the plants from burning.(autoflowers) I did get get some decent results but even at 200b / gram it's better for me to just buy it these days.As you say outside growing was hopeless.

Are you sure it was 1000watt ?

[davb]

23 hours ago, BritManToo said:

The problem you haven't encountered, 2nd or 3rd crop will be inundated with pests, unless you use fairly serious pesticides.

 

Why is this? I'm on my second year of growing in our yard, just a few plants, and they are now teetering on the edge of dying because of spider mites.
 

[ezzra]

I know some guys who need to grow a pair first before growing the other stuff.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, davb said:

Why is this? I'm on my second year of growing in our yard, just a few plants, and they are now teetering on the edge of dying because of spider mites.

Yep, that's what happens to me as well.

I've also had everything covered with aphids.

If you grow anything regularly in one place they get covered.

Guess that's why all the big outside/greenhouse growers use plenty of pesticides (even if they deny it).

[BritManToo]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

I've got no dog in the fight on either side.  But I'm curious whether "grow your own" has ever come back to bite any foreigners that cheezed off their neighbors?  Has anyone ever been ratted out and deported for it?

 

It's completely legal now, and still will be under the suggested new laws.

Only for yourself though, you can't sell it.

[tomster]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

It's completely legal now, and still will be under the suggested new laws.

Only for yourself though, you can't sell it.

It's a whopping great hole in the new law - you do now need to register on the Plook Ganja app but any Thai can do it and there are no inspections or similar.

Then you can grow however much you want pretty much, it's not possible for anybody to check if you sell it or not.

 

So you now have commercial farms having to get some serious paperwork together for their commercial licenses, but everybody else growing unlimited amounts without any restrictions and in reality able to sell it without any problems.

 

What could possibly go wrong?

[jaideedave]

22 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Are you sure it was 1000watt ?

Yup, Mars TS1000 Led Grow Light Full Spectrum...just checked...been a while

[Bday Prang]

On 7/4/2025 at 11:56 AM, jaideedave said:

Yup, Mars TS1000 Led Grow Light Full Spectrum...just checked...been a while

 best you check again     its actually 150 W     (its probably equivalent to a 1000w incandescent)

[Bday Prang]

On 7/3/2025 at 7:32 PM, tomster said:

It's a whopping great hole in the new law - you do now need to register on the Plook Ganja app but any Thai can do it and there are no inspections or similar.

Then you can grow however much you want pretty much, it's not possible for anybody to check if you sell it or not.

 

So you now have commercial farms having to get some serious paperwork together for their commercial licenses, but everybody else growing unlimited amounts without any restrictions and in reality able to sell it without any problems.

 

What could possibly go wrong?

What could possibly go wrong?         Nothing , the past three years is evidence of that

[Gilligan In Drag]

Growing outside can be done and without pesticides or much complexity. Don't try to grow during the period most cannabis outdoor growers will grow in most parts of the world May/November because the rain will wreck just about everything. I even tried using a clear plastic tarp 24 feet off the ground to fend the rain off, but the humidity will rot most flower, tho' I did have some success with Ace Seeds Honduras, a large sativa plant supposedly a mix of Oaxxacan and Colombian, but I don't like the weed I got from it that much. Gorgeous plant tho' and did not have issues with the humidity and heat.

 

I had success with Thai and Lao landrace/heirloom strains growing in the September-March time frame. Probably a bit too late, I lost a number of plants in March to bud rot and powdery mildew. Anything with dense buds is not going to work during that time frame or any time frame as I found, anything with what most people plant and grow in the west in the dna. You have to plant stuff with fluffy open bud structure, not nuggets, as dense buds will rot mostly outside. Plants will do great up until not long beofre harvest and and go black and brown overnight, very very sad.

 

What grew best for me was Real Seed Company's Lao Gold. Nearly without a hitch and a very enjoyable mood elevating buzz and zero paranoia. Did not spray them for bugs and there did not seem to be any and gave them weekly bat guano extract and molasses and some fermented banana teas as well as stuff off our compost heap and cow poop from the neighbors cows which you get magic mushrooms out of. The plants are also not so enormous so better stealth factor, a nice manageable 6-7 feet high. I would grow them again in a heartbeat, tho' not sure I dare to.

 

post script- It probably would have been cheaper to buy bud from a shop, but the Lao Gold is unique in its effects, I have never had such nice stuff to smoke and I like growing the plants, I enjoy that part very much if not more than smoking, so even tho' its a bit more expensive than your cheapest bottom barrell stuff quality is better and nobody sells old Thai and Lao heirloom strains unmixed with skunk and cookies dna like that.

 

So many things will grow well or probably grow well outdoors here, lowlands tropical strains generally speaking from India, Southeast Asia and East Africa, though many Indian strains are going to be highlands strains or from low humidity areas. It is speculated that many Thai strains are descended from Orissa India strains an area with a climate similar to Thailand. I have never tried to grow Malawi or Congo african strains which have a solid rep as being very good weed and would grow outdoors here I think.

[madone]

On 7/3/2025 at 11:47 AM, impulse said:

I've got no dog in the fight on either side.  But I'm curious whether "grow your own" has ever come back to bite any foreigners that cheezed off their neighbors?  Has anyone ever been ratted out and deported for it?

 

how would they know what i have in a tent in a shed?

 

[Bday Prang]

13 hours ago, madone said:

how would they know what i have in a tent in a shed?

 

Exactly, say nothing to anybody and you'll be fine