50 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

hmmmm not all of them 

 

He is a chubby little rascal, but he hasn't spent any time in Palestine since the 1990s.  He eats pretty well in Beirut and Istanbul. The photo in the previous post and the one below are from May of this year.

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/osama-hamdan-hamas-gaza-israel-trump

 

He used to appear frequently on Arabic language TV channels, but he has the wrong broadcast image now Hamas is pushing the starvation angle.

 

 

 

4 hours ago, bannork said:

Hey! There's an idea. Why doesn't Israel let in foreign journalists to report on the situation regarding starvation in Gaza?

They won't.

I wonder why. Could it be they don't want the truth to come out?

.... or maybe they fear that naive journalists will just use the Hamas propaganda as their 'news reports'?

 

There's no right and wrong in this conflict, Israel have a history of wrongs and so does Hamas .... and two wrongs just make a double wrong, but Israel knows that the Wrstern media will use starving baby images (AI and real) to drive clicks, as media is a for profit business like any other.

On 8/5/2025 at 10:57 AM, Hanaguma said:

Never said AUTOMATICALLY,  stop strawmanning. And, just to be accurate, all the famous folks you are promoting MARRIED their cousins, they were not the product of cousin marriages. Different situation entirely. 

 

And again, what I am saying is accurate.And based on culture. So yes, I will judge a culture that promotes unhealthy activity.  And one that also uses children born with birth defects as their "poster children" for starvation. Reprehensible. 

Marrying and breeding off ones cousin,somewhat distasteful to most normal people and quite obviously far from Ideal .  it is probably relatively (pun intended lol)  pretty harmless one time around but generation after generation will inevitably lead to problems and that is a medical / scientific fact,  The fact that it occurs exclusively within "protected" societies means it will be allowed to continue  mainly uncriticised, which is just plain stupid

On 8/5/2025 at 9:22 AM, Chris.C said:

Absolute nonsense - Gazans aren’t suffering because of Islam - they’re suffering because they’ve been bombed, blockaded, and brutalised for decades. Saying they’re suffering from Islam is as ignorant as me saying you’re suffering from Judaism. That kind of thinking - blaming an entire people’s suffering on their religion - is exactly how the Nazis justified their persecution of Jews in the 1930s and 40s. It’s not just vile - it’s dangerous.

       Purely out of interest, what drives your almost fanatical support. Are you a muslim ? do you have palestinian roots, is it from anti jewish sentiment ?  Or just from your personal moral compass of right and wrong,   I'm not looking for an argument and I promise not to reply, just genuinely curious

       Personally I remain relatively ambivalent about it all, rightly or wrongly for me and many others out of sight out of  mind , and I just don't have the time or the inclination to get all worked up about all the injustices in the world in truth nobody does.

       We don't hear about ukraine much anymore  or Sudan or Darfur or North korea ,  those disasters are just not "fashionable" at the moment, why is that ? I reckon they have been pushed aside by the media, because that is run predominantly  by lefty types who do indeed  have a some deep  rooted hatred of the Jews I honestly don't know why, and if the truth be known neither do many of those in the chanting mobs,   When asked "which river and which sea" many have no idea where or indeed what it actually means

     Now  no  lefty protest about immigration or anti -fascism in my country is complete nowadays without some palestinian flag waving and anti semitic sentiment,  but non of our illegals are from gaza  

     I am not ashamed to say I don't particularly like muslims they have caused a lot of trouble in my country over the years, I know they are not all bad but the so called moderate or good ones are never too quick to condemn the others. 

    In the same way that not everybody is a reckless driver after a couple of pints  the fact that some actually are means that for the good of society the limit is set low . This should apply to the followers of the so called religion of peace by letting  them continue to practice but strictly in private and limiting there numbers and any influence they have in society....Just saying   

 people cam thumbs down me as much as they wish , water off a ducks back , so why waste your time ladies    love from the prang   xxxxx

       

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

       Purely out of interest, what drives your almost fanatical support. Are you a muslim ? do you have palestinian roots, is it from anti jewish sentiment ?  Or just from your personal moral compass of right and wrong,   I'm not looking for an argument and I promise not to reply, just genuinely curious

       Personally I remain relatively ambivalent about it all, rightly or wrongly for me and many others out of sight out of  mind , and I just don't have the time or the inclination to get all worked up about all the injustices in the world in truth nobody does.

       We don't hear about ukraine much anymore  or Sudan or Darfur or North korea ,  those disasters are just not "fashionable" at the moment, why is that ? I reckon they have been pushed aside by the media, because that is run predominantly  by lefty types who do indeed  have a some deep  rooted hatred of the Jews I honestly don't know why, and if the truth be known neither do many of those in the chanting mobs,   When asked "which river and which sea" many have no idea where or indeed what it actually means

     Now  no  lefty protest about immigration or anti -fascism in my country is complete nowadays without some palestinian flag waving and anti semitic sentiment,  but non of our illegals are from gaza  

     I am not ashamed to say I don't particularly like muslims they have caused a lot of trouble in my country over the years, I know they are not all bad but the so called moderate or good ones are never too quick to condemn the others. 

    In the same way that not everybody is a reckless driver after a couple of pints  the fact that some actually are means that for the good of society the limit is set low . This should apply to the followers of the so called religion of peace by letting  them continue to practice but strictly in private and limiting there numbers and any influence they have in society....Just saying   

 people cam thumbs down me as much as they wish , water off a ducks back , so why waste your time ladies    love from the prang   xxxxx

       

I could ask you a similar question – why do you show such fanatical support for Israel and dislike of Muslims? Are you Jewish? Please do reply – I’m genuinely curious about your hardline stance. Also, what have Muslims done to your country? Why are you so upset with people who are standing up against the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank?

No, I’m Catholic, English with Irish roots. I support the oppressed – and currently, that is the Palestinian people suffering under Israeli actions. I’m neither left nor right politically.

Simply put, we rarely hear about Russia, Sudan, Darfur, or North Korea – because Western democratic countries don’t support the atrocities happening there.

What you’re saying is racist. Comparing an entire group of people – millions of peaceful Muslims – to reckless drivers after a few drinks is ignorant.

Trying to limit their religion to private practice and reduce their influence in society is discriminatory and completely unacceptable. It promotes fear and division rather than understanding. If you truly care about society’s well-being, start judging people as individuals instead of scapegoating an entire religion based on prejudice.

I don't really care about the jews one way or the other    but I do prefer them to Muslims and kiddy fiddling catholics   All religion should be practised in private  its nothing more than a fairy tale anyway. Honestly grown men believing in Imaginary beings truly laughable and killing others in the name of it   totally ridiculous and a good reason to ban all of it outright with no exceptions

  "what I'm saying Is racist" well boo hoo  you will have me crying in a minute.  I'm just sorry I did not receive your "shame shame shame" response 

now off you go and continue your crusade on behalf of your inbred victims , what better way to excise your inherent catholic guilt other than self flagellation, 

I was not expecting you to answer my question so succinctly and I doubt you even realise that you have

 

11 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I don't really care about the jews one way or the other    but I do prefer them to Muslims and kiddy fiddling catholics   All religion should be practised in private  its nothing more than a fairy tale anyway. Honestly grown men believing in Imaginary beings truly laughable and killing others in the name of it   totally ridiculous and a good reason to ban all of it outright with no exceptions

  "what I'm saying Is racist" well boo hoo  you will have me crying in a minute.  I'm just sorry I did not receive your "shame shame shame" response 

now off you go and continue your crusade on behalf of your inbred victims , what better way to excise your inherent catholic guilt other than self flagellation, 

I was not expecting you to answer my question so succinctly and I doubt you even realise that you have

 

You asked me if I was Muslim, I answered you.

I asked if you were Jewish, you avoided an answer. Why?

I understand we don’t always practice our given religion. I don’t as went to a Convent school, but still identify as a recovering Catholic.

 

1 minute ago, Chris.C said:

You asked me if I was Muslim, I answered you.

I asked if you were Jewish, you avoided an answer. Why?

I understand we don’t always practice our given religion. I don’t as went to a Convent school, but still identify as a recovering Catholic.

 

no not jewish    not anything     don't believe in the tooth fairy or father christmas or ghosts either.

6 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

no not jewish    not anything     don't believe in the tooth fairy or father christmas or ghosts either.

You can’t be not anything. 
What is your parents religion, ie what religion were you born into and now don’t believe in?

I showed you mine, now you show me yours 🤔🥰
 

1 minute ago, Chris.C said:

You can’t be not anything. 
What is your parents religion, ie what religion were you you born into and not don’t believe in?

Inshowedbyou mine, now you show me yours 🤔🥰

I have no idea my parents are both dead they did not believe in the tooth fairy either,  were would I even begin to look?   I went to a normal school which was probably C of E but that means nothing  I am in essence a true atheist 

Displaced Gaza farmer grows vegetables amid dire shortages

Amid Gaza’s ongoing humanitarian crisis, Ibrahim Abu Jabal, a displaced farmer, is cultivating a small vegetable garden outside his tent in Gaza City. Surrounded by tens of thousands of Palestinians uprooted by the Israel-Hamas war, Abu Jabal tends to rows of tomatoes, cucumbers, and peppers on a sandy 120-square-meter plot.

 

With food scarce and aid difficult to access, Abu Jabal has turned to farming once again to help sustain his family. “Our bodies need tomatoes, cucumbers,” he said, emphasising that these vegetables are either unavailable or prohibitively expensive in Gaza’s war-torn markets.

 

Water supplies in Gaza are also dangerously low, forcing Abu Jabal to carry heavy jugs from a pipe that runs only one hour each day to keep his garden alive. Despite the overwhelming challenges, Abu Jabal remains determined. “I planted this garden so my children and I can survive another day, or a little longer,” he said.

 

Displaced Gaza farmer grows vegetables amid dire shortages

Gaza mothers struggle to feed families amid deepening famine: ‘The children remain hungry’

 

A single bowl of eggplant stewed in watery tomato juice must sustain Sally Muzhed’s family of six for the day. She calls it moussaka, but it’s a pale echo of the fragrant, layered meat-and-vegetable dish that once filled Gaza’s kitchens with its aroma.

The war has severed families from the means to farm or fish, and the little food that enters the besieged strip is often looted, hoarded and resold at exorbitant prices. So mothers like Muzhed have been forced into constant improvisation, reimagining Palestinian staples with the meager ingredients they can grab off trucks, from airdropped parcels or purchase at the market.

 

Israel implemented a total blockade on trucks entering the besieged strip in early March and began allowing aid back in May, although humanitarian organizations say the amount remains far from adequate.

 

Gaza mothers struggle to feed families amid deepening famine: ‘The children remain hungry’

 

19 hours ago, bannork said:

Hey! There's an idea. Why doesn't Israel let in foreign journalists to report on the situation regarding starvation in Gaza?

They won't.

I wonder why. Could it be they don't want the truth to come out?

 

Foreign journalists aren't allowed inside Gaza mainly out of concern for their safety and even lives.  But some reports are being made:

 

 

4 hours ago, bannork said:

The war has severed families from the means to farm or fish, and the little food that enters the besieged strip is often looted, hoarded and resold at exorbitant prices.

 

   By Hamas ,

So, Hamas is responsible for the hungry Palestinian children 

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Foreign journalists aren't allowed inside Gaza mainly out of concern for their safety and even lives.  But some reports are being made:

 

 

Embedded with the GHF !! Not independent at all.

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

Embedded with the GHF !! Not independent at all.

 

  

  Do you only believe Al Jazeera reports ?

1 hour ago, bannork said:

Embedded with the GHF !! Not independent at all.

 

For practical reasons, it is virtually impossible to have journalists in an active combat zone who aren't embedded.

2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

For practical reasons, it is virtually impossible to have journalists in an active combat zone who aren't embedded.

 

Over 100 journalists demand 'immediate and unsupervised' foreign media access into Gaza

 

Signatories are calling on both Israel and Hamas to allow foreign journalists into Gaza to report independently on the war, something they have been barred from doing since the conflict started in 2023

 

More than 100 journalists, photographers and war correspondents have signed a petition demanding "immediate and unsupervised foreign press access to the Gaza Strip".

The petition is signed by leading journalists working for global news organisations. It is part of the Freedom To Report initiative, which was started by award-winning photographer Andre Liohn.

 

Signatories include Sky News' special correspondent Alex Crawford, broadcaster Mehdi Hasan, CNN's Christiane Amanpour and chief international correspondent Clarissa Ward, as well as iconic war photographer Don McCullin.

 

Over 100 journalists demand 'immediate and unsupervised' foreign media access into Gaza | World News | Sky News

 

 

A further quote from the petition: "Unrestricted, independent access for foreign journalists is urgently needed, not only to document the unfolding atrocities but to ensure that the truth of this war is not dictated by those who control the weapons and the narrative. Israel's block on international journalists in Gaza should not be allowed to stand
Our mission as journalists is to tell the full story, denied access to Gaza we cannot do that.''

British medic Sam Sears, a veteran of deployments to Ukraine, Rwanda, Turkey and Sierra Leone for UK-Med, is no stranger to working in tough environments. But Gaza was so much worse than he anticipated – “the destruction and devastation is just unprecedented”. “Malnutrition is no longer a future threat. It is a present killer,” Sam said. “One of my patients was a 16-year-old girl named Noor. She has diabetes but was half the expected weight for her age.

 

“Her father told me they sometimes went two days without food or clean water. Noor was lucky to reach us in time, but many others do not. Even those who survive the hunger live in constant fear. There is no safe space. The sound of shelling and airstrikes is relentless. Children cry not just from pain or hunger, but from sheer terror.

 

The health system in Gaza has been battered. Hospitals are under-resourced, understaffed, and overwhelmed. Supplies are critically low. Electricity is intermittent. Colleagues I worked with in Gaza – brave, committed local medics – have lost homes, family members, and friends, yet they keep working. Their resilience is extraordinary, but it is not infinite.”

 

British medic's heartbreaking two words to dead Gaza child, 9, while zipping up their body bag

On 8/8/2025 at 11:23 PM, Evil Penevil said:

 

For practical reasons, it is virtually impossible to have journalists in an active combat zone who aren't embedded.

Actually, other wars – from Iraq and Ukraine to Syria – have allowed independent journalists to report firsthand, even amid conflict. Gaza is unique because Israel has barred almost all foreign press from entering. That’s not just ‘practical limitations’ – it’s a deliberate restriction on independent coverage.

Gaza is the deadliest conflict for reporters in recent history:
As of March 2025, at least 232 journalists and media workers have been killed in the Gaza war – more than in World Wars I & II, the Vietnam War, the Yugoslav Wars, and the post-9/11 Afghanistan war combined.

Civilians – and especially journalists – are disproportionately targeted:
CPJ reports that 178 journalists, mostly Palestinian, have been killed as of mid-2025, marking the most lethal period for media workers since records began in 1992.

Foreign media access is heavily restricted:
Unlike other wars, Israel has nearly completely barred foreign journalists from Gaza, allowing only embedded coverage under controlled, IDF-mediated conditions.

The few journalists who can report inside are facing catastrophic risks:
Local reporters are dying at staggering rates, with one in ten journalists in Gaza killed since October 2023, according to combined data. Many face starvation, lack of protective gear, and bombardment – all while trying to document the war.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_journalists_in_the_Gaza_war?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatment_of_journalists_in_Palestine_during_the_Gaza_War?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/22/fatma-hassona-gaza-photojournalist/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

 

On 8/6/2025 at 10:12 PM, bannork said:

Terrible thirst hits Gaza with polluted aquifers and broken pipelines

 

Though some water comes from small desalination units run by aid agencies, most is drawn from wells in a brackish aquifer that has been further polluted by sewage and chemicals seeping through the rubble, spreading diarrhoea and hepatitis.

 

 

Israel stopped all water and electricity supply to Gaza early in the war but resumed some supply later though the pipeline network in the territory has been badly damaged.

 

Most water and sanitation infrastructure has been destroyed and pumps from the aquifer often rely on electricity from small generators - for which fuel is rarely available.

 

Terrible thirst hits Gaza with polluted aquifers and broken pipelines

Oh the irony, why were you never protesting about Hamas destroying the civilian waterpipe infrastructure to make rockets that they would then fire from their human shield protected sites.

 

It was such a brazen act of destruction of their own water system that they even filmed their terrorist act to show it off to the world.

 

How Hamas Turns Water Pipes Into Rockets