https://www.bangkokpost.com/life/social-and-lifestyle/3081369/new-data-link-cannabis-use-and-heart-disease

 

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The researchers looked at health data collected from 24 studies. The data covered 200 million adults from ages 19 to 59. They separated the data into two groups, regular users of cannabis and nonusers. Analysis found that cannabis users had a 29% higher risk of a heart attack and a 20% higher risk of a stroke. 

 

Really?

 

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A study from researchers at the University of California, San Francisco, published last spring, found that regular users of edibles had reduced vascular function, by more than 55%, compared to nonusers.

 

55%, huh?

 

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Older adults and those with existing heart conditions are at particular risk of adverse outcomes. All of this makes it important to consider the potential risks before using cannabis.

 

On and on. It's a death sentence! Was this study funded by the lobbyists of the alcohol industry?

 

 

Dr. Doom at it again with his B.S. stories ? Thais climbing walls with Spider Man powers after smoking ?

36 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

https://www.bangkokpost.com/life/social-and-lifestyle/3081369/new-data-link-cannabis-use-and-heart-disease

 

 

Really?

 

 

55%, huh?

 

 

On and on. It's a death sentence! Was this study funded by the lobbyists of the alcohol industry?

 

 

Maybe  cannabis smokers do have an unhealthy lifestyle in general, and not only related to cannabis use? 

 

Many who smoke claim health related problems as a reason to smoke? 

 

 

 

 

The article from the study 

 

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/smoking-cannabis-associated-increased-risk-heart-attack-stroke

And read the full article here as well

 

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20250618/Cannabis-use-associated-with-increased-risk-of-stroke-and-heart-attacks.aspx

There may be something to this. Let's face it eating junk food increases the the chances of heart disease and consuming dope increases the chance of consuming junk food munchies being a common side effect of getting stoned.

Users claim benefits only, just check the forum for evidence

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

The article from the study 

 

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/smoking-cannabis-associated-increased-risk-heart-attack-stroke

The problem with this study is that there’s no way to know how much people were actually consuming. Moderation matters. I don’t think any alcohol is good, but some doctors say a glass of wine a day can help the heart. Ten glasses, though, is clearly harmful. Same goes for cannabis. If you’re using too much, the risk goes up. So if the people in the study were heavy users, the findings might not apply to the average user.

44 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Users claim benefits only, just check the forum for evidence

If I had to smoke it to use it I would definitely be reporting downsides. Throat irritation, phlegm, etc. But the way I consume it, I don't feel that there are any downsides for me. 

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

There may be something to this. Let's face it eating junk food increases the the chances of heart disease and consuming dope increases the chance of consuming junk food munchies being a common side effect of getting stoned.

That is a fact. The euphoric feeling can push you towards more hedonism. But it's not severe. People with low self control and an addictive personality will definitely suffer as a result of their diet choice since they already struggle with maintaining good eating habits.  

11 hours ago, RSD1 said:

but some doctors say a glass of wine a day can help the heart.

that's probably fake research.

 

maybe wine has resveratrol which is healthy, but the alcohol itself probably isn't according to some researchers. 

there's a bit of debate on alcohol. 

scientific studies are not necessarily definitive. scientists debate things all the time.

 

11 hours ago, RSD1 said:

But the way I consume it, I don't feel that there are any downsides for me. 

 

pot may be one of the more benign drugs on the surface.

however, it may lull people into complacency.

maybe smoking it every single day is what causes problems. 

 

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

that's probably fake research.

 

maybe wine has resveratrol which is healthy, but the alcohol itself probably isn't according to some researchers. 

there's a bit of debate on alcohol. 

scientific studies are not necessarily definitive. scientists debate things all the time.

 

I agree. Any amount of alcohol is actually toxic to the body. But I don't want turn this into another one of those threads that's turns into a debate about how unhealthy alcohol is. 

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

pot may be one of the more benign drugs on the surface.

however, it may lull people into complacency.

maybe smoking it every single day is what causes problems. 

 

 

It depends on whether you see complacency as a problem. Some people might, especially over time. Others embrace it and enjoy drifting into a kind of complacent bliss. I think it’s actually better for retired people and worse for young people. If you’re young and supposed to be out in the world fighting for your place, that’s harder to do as a heavy weed smoker. But once you’re retired, there’s nothing to worry about.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

pot may be one of the more benign drugs on the surface.

however, it may lull people into complacency.

maybe smoking it every single day is what causes problems. 

 

I guess it depends on how much you smoke everyday. Smoking every day per se doesn't necessarily cause problems.

A study of cancer and heart disease on people aged 19 to 59 .........

That seems wrong, wouldn't most cancer and heart disease affect people over 60?

And the study didn't include them!

5 hours ago, Hummin said:

Maybe  cannabis smokers do have an unhealthy lifestyle in general, and not only related to cannabis use? 

 

Many who smoke claim health related problems as a reason to smoke? 

 

 

 

 

Did they account for confounding variables?

5 hours ago, RSD1 said:

https://www.bangkokpost.com/life/social-and-lifestyle/3081369/new-data-link-cannabis-use-and-heart-disease

 

 

Really?

 

 

55%, huh?

 

 

On and on. It's a death sentence! Was this study funded by the lobbyists of the alcohol industry?

 

 

 

Nothing sinister. It is actually common sense and reflects the chronic cannabis user health profile.

How many people in excellent physical shape, are chronic cannabis users?

How many people who are chronic cannabis users have active profiles and are able to undertake activities  that require intellectual engagement?

How many people who are chronic cannabis users have healthy diets and do not suffer from diseases?

The cardiovascular issues are well documented. They also attach to tobacco and alcohol users.

This "study" was previously discussed...no clue why it needs a new thread?

 

 

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Nothing sinister. It is actually common sense and reflects the chronic cannabis user health profile.

How many people in excellent physical shape, are chronic cannabis users?

How many people who are chronic cannabis users have active profiles and are able to undertake activities  that require intellectual engagement?

How many people who are chronic cannabis users have healthy diets and do not suffer from diseases?

The cardiovascular issues are well documented. They also attach to tobacco and alcohol users.

Well me for one,

70 years old, smoke 0.5g every evening, cures my arthritis.

Cannabis is the most effective NSAID available.

Weigh 73kg, cycle 15km then walk 4km most mornings.

 

No other serious diseases.

How much is too much ?

21 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Well me for one,

70 years old, smoke 0.5g every evening, cures my arthritis.

Cannabis is the most effective NSAID available.

Weigh 73kg, cycle 15km then walk 4km most mornings.

 

No other serious diseases.

 

Are you really this ignorant or is this just intended to get a rise out of people?

Cannabis does not cure arthritis. It can induce a state of stupor such that it masks the discomfort of arthritis, but there is no evidence of it curing an inflammatory illness. Cannabis has no role in the repair of joints and connective tissue.

Cannabis is in no way an NSAID. It does not have  similar chemical structure, nor does it have a similar mechanism of action.

No other serious diseases that you are aware of. OK. You are fortunate, until such time as you are not.

14 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Are you really this ignorant or is this just intended to get a rise out of people?

Cannabis does not cure arthritis. It can induce a state of stupor such that it masks the discomfort of arthritis, but there is no evidence of it curing an inflammatory illness. Cannabis has no role in the repair of joints and connective tissue.

Cannabis is in no way an NSAID. It does not have  similar chemical structure, nor does it have a similar mechanism of action.

No other serious diseases that you are aware of. OK. You are fortunate, until such time as you are not.

Blah blah blah, I am anti cannabis, love to put my nose in blah blah blah, I really dont know much other than I personally dont like the stuff. Blah blah blah, Blah blah blah, blah blah blah. 

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

It can induce a state of stupor such that it masks the discomfort of arthritis, but there is no evidence of it curing an inflammatory illness. Cannabis has no role in the repair of joints and connective tissue.

I must be imagining the pain and joint swelling has all gone then.

Also imagining I can wear the rings again, when 5 years back they would no longer fit over my finger joints.

On 8/6/2025 at 2:47 PM, RSD1 said:

On and on. It's a death sentence! Was this study funded by the lobbyists of the alcohol industry?

 

I have bad news for you. Andrew Huberman is on board with this.

Now why should you trust Andrew Huberman? 

Well, I just do because I've seen multiple of his podcasts. He's highly intelligent and seems to have integrity.

Also, he has established a reputations as being one of the world's top researchers.

I don't think he's the type of person to put garbage out there if it's not backed by solid science. He doesn't want to tarnish his reputation. 

 

Also, he seems like a hipster who would probably smoke cannabis every day himself if the science supported it and it was totally safe and without side effects.

 

At some point, cannabis users may need to admit to themselves that DAILY USE IS HARMFUL and maybe need to restrict it to once a week or something. 

 

In this part, he talks about the effects on the blood vessels, risk of stroke, problems for lungs, etc ...

02:06:53 Smoking/Vaping Tobacco or Cannabis & Negative Health Consequences

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

At some point, cannabis users may need to admit to themselves that DAILY USE IS HARMFUL and maybe need to restrict it to once a week or something. 

 

Why do you care what other adults choose to do?

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

In this part, he talks about the effects on the blood vessels, risk of stroke, problems for lungs, etc ...

02:06:53 Smoking/Vaping Tobacco or Cannabis & Negative Health Consequences

 

So edibles, tinctures are OK.

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Now why should you trust Andrew Huberman? 

Well, I just do because I've seen multiple of his podcasts.

 

Ah yes, the belief in podcasters.

On 8/7/2025 at 5:22 AM, RSD1 said:

If I had to smoke it to use it I would definitely be reporting downsides. Throat irritation, phlegm, etc. But the way I consume it, I don't feel that there are any downsides for me. 

.........yet........😝

11 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Ah yes, the belief in podcasters.

as opposed to what?

belief in an addict? 

of course the addict will tell you it's all good in da 'hood. 

sometimes it may take decades for symptoms to appear. smoking cigarettes is a perfect example. you can't go by the random guy on the street telling you i been smoking 20 years and i feel fine. we need science. 

 

17 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

as opposed to what?

belief in an addict? 

of course the addict will tell you it's all good in da 'hood. 

sometimes it may take decades for symptoms to appear. smoking cigarettes is a perfect example. you can't go by the random guy on the street telling you i been smoking 20 years and i feel fine. we need science. 

 

Age 70 now, how much longer do you think I will need to smoke cannabis before I get sick?

For some reason the survey only included people under 60 years old, so not that complete a survey.

More propaganda from big pharma, they can't make any profit from it and it's eating away at what they do make...