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Israel slaughters 5 more journalists

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6 hours ago, bannork said:

The BBC understands Sharif worked for a Hamas media team in Gaza before the current conflict. In some of his social media posts before his death, the journalist can be heard criticising Hamas

So? 
 

 

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    You called for foreign journalists to allowed into Gaza  You cannot complain when they get injured or killed . That is what you called for . Happy now ?

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3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

So? 
 

 

Wow, what a response, running out of excuses?  

7 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Wow, what a response, running out of excuses?  

That someone criticizes someone or something they support, it does not mean they no longer support it. 

 

And if one wants to hide the fact that they support something, it would make sense that they would develop a social media presence that helps hide it. 

 

I’m not saying that’s what it is, but at the end of the day it proves nothing.

What I find incredible in all of the Israel threads is that the Israeli supporters will not hear any criticism of their regime. None at all. 186 journalists killed, should we perhaps check? Nah, just call them terrorists.

I know of no other country except perhaps America that so blindly believes everything their government says. I see such cruel responses here that they deserved it, that if you criticise Israel you worship terrorists and support kidnapping and the rape of children - it is insane. And this is why Israel is slowly eroding all the support they had, especially after October 9th.

In the UK I am generally a Labour supporter but they do do things I disagree with. I am not a huge fan of Starmer although I think he tries to do the right thing. I am open to opposing views. But the hard Israeli fans on here will not even for a minute accept that they might be wrong. Blind faith plus blind hatred is a nasty combination.

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

What I find incredible in all of the Israel threads is that the Israeli supporters will not hear any criticism of their regime. None at all. 186 journalists killed, should we perhaps check? Nah, just call them terrorists.

I know of no other country except perhaps America that so blindly believes everything their government says. I see such cruel responses here that they deserved it, that if you criticise Israel you worship terrorists and support kidnapping and the rape of children - it is insane. And this is why Israel is slowly eroding all the support they had, especially after October 9th.

In the UK I am generally a Labour supporter but they do do things I disagree with. I am not a huge fan of Starmer although I think he tries to do the right thing. I am open to opposing views. But the hard Israeli fans on here will not even for a minute accept that they might be wrong. Blind faith plus blind hatred is a nasty combination.

Always the same rhetoric from the left. 

 

You believe Hamas over the IDF, while I believe the IDF over Hamas. 

13 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Always the same rhetoric from the left. 

 

You believe Hamas over the IDF, while I believe the IDF over Hamas. 

I said I have an open mind, whereas you don't. I can question my government, you can't.

You just proved the point perfectly, thank you.

On 8/11/2025 at 7:35 PM, ronnie50 said:

Which part of 'they were targeted' and the IDF admitted it, don't you understand?

Perhaps you should read the link that explains why they were targeted then you'd have some understanding.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 8/11/2025 at 7:41 PM, hotandsticky said:

...and the other 4?.....................which terrorist organisations did they belong to?

What about them?  That's the risk they take for hanging around with terrorists!

On 8/11/2025 at 7:52 PM, ronnie50 said:
On 8/11/2025 at 7:39 PM, TedG said:

It appears the "reporter" was a terrorist. 

No. It appears you believe what the IDF tells you.

And it appears that you, bizarrely, believe what Hamas tells you.

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

That someone criticizes someone or something they support, it does not mean they no longer support it. 

 

And if one wants to hide the fact that they support something, it would make sense that they would develop a social media presence that helps hide it. 

 

I’m not saying that’s what it is, but at the end of the day it proves nothing.

 

44 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Always the same rhetoric from the left. 

 

You believe Hamas over the IDF, while I believe the IDF over Hamas. 

Everyone should be sceptical about both organisations.

15 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Perhaps you should read the link that explains why they were targeted then you'd have some understanding.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Israeli officials have bragged of killing Mr Sharif, whom they have claimed was the head of a Hamas terrorist cell, planning rocket attacks against Israeli civilians. Mr Sharif and Al Jazeera had already denied this.

 

It would surely be hard for such a prominent figure to combine reporting with command of such a unit. The documents offered up by Israel as evidence end two years before the war began, and were reportedly screen grabs of electronic spreadsheets, not independently verified.

 

 

 Al-Sharif knew that far from offering protection amid the slaughter in Gaza, his press credentials further endangered him. The Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) warned last month of acute danger to the 28-year-old’s life as the Israel Defense Forces stepped up online attacks on him.

 

The Guardian view on Anas al-Sharif and Gaza’s journalists: Israel is wiping out the witnesses | Editorial | The Guardian

 

 

The Hind Rajab Foundation (HRF) and the Palestinian Center for Human Rights (PCHR) have filed a complaint with the International Criminal Court against the IDF Chief of Staff, Lt.-Gen. Eyal Zamir and others they believe to be responsible for the killing of journalist Anas Al-Sharif.

 

This led to the HRF identifying “the chain of command behind the killing,” which it listed as Zamir, Maj.-Gen.

 

HRF files complaint with ICC against IDF chief, others, over 'deliberate' killing of Anas Al-Sharif

 

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

I said I have an open mind, whereas you don't. I can question my government, you can't.

You just proved the point perfectly, thank you.

More leftist rhetoric. 

 

I have an open mind, and I question my government constantly. 

 

You seem to have to lie to support your argument, I don’t. 

20 hours ago, stevenl said:

So doubting the words of the IDF now equates to doubting the Holocaust.

 

I never wrote or even implied that was true, nor do I believe doubting the words of the IDF equates to doubting the Holocaust.  I mentioned the Holocaust as an example of a horrific series of events which some people choose to deny, despite mountains of evidence that it did indeed happen.

 

Same-same with Hamas operatives masquerading as journalists.  Plenty of evidence, but some choose not to believe it.

 

20 hours ago, stevenl said:

Looking at the lies spread, every thinking human has plenty of reasons not to believe the IDF.

 

Every thinking human has even more reasons not to believe Hamas. Take a look at these excerpts from the Hamas Charter of 1988.  Do you believe in the truth of these statements? Would you trust the words on other topics of anyone who did?

@stevenl  Do you believe Jews were behind the French and Russian revolutions? Do you believe in the truth of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zions" or that Zionists are attempting to dominate the world through groups like the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and Lions?  Hamas does.

All excerpts from:  https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/hamas.asp

Article Thirty-Two:  The Islamic Resistance Movement calls on Arab and Islamic nations to take up the line of serious and persevering action to prevent the success of this horrendous plan, to warn the people of the danger eminating from leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism. Today it is Palestine, tomorrow it will be one country or another. The Zionist plan is limitless. After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying.

Article Twenty-Two:  With their money, they took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others. With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the world with the purpose of achieving their interests and reaping the fruit therein. They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there. With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests. With their money they were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries in order to enable them to exploit their resources and spread corruption there.  

Article Twenty-Two:  You may speak as much as you want about regional and world wars. They were behind World War I, when they were able to destroy the Islamic Caliphate, making financial gains and controlling resources. They obtained the Balfour Declaration, formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. It was they who instigated the replacement of the League of Nations with the United Nations and the Security Council to enable them to rule the world through them. There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it.

Article Twenty-Eight:  The Zionist invasion is a vicious invasion. It does not refrain from resorting to all methods, using all evil and contemptible ways to achieve its end. It relies greatly in its infiltration and espionage operations on the secret organizations it gave rise to, such as the Freemasons, The Rotary and Lions clubs, and other sabotage groups. All these organizations, whether secret or open, work in the interest of Zionism and according to its instructions. They aim at undermining societies, destroying values, corrupting consciences, deteriorating character and annihilating Islam. It is behind the drug trade and alcoholism in all its kinds so as to facilitate its control and expansion.

Article Twenty-Eight:  We should not forget to remind every Moslem that when the Jews conquered the Holy City in 1967, they stood on the threshold of the Aqsa Mosque and proclaimed that "Mohammed is dead, and his descendants are all women.  "Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. "May the cowards never sleep."

The Slogan of the Islamic Resistance Movement:  Article Eight:  Allah is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Koran its constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes. 

Article Eight: There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with.

Article Seven: The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:  "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

 

I am aware Hamas revised its Charter in 2017 to remove the most idiotic antisemitic tropes, but it has never revoked nor distanced itself from the original.  The revision was most likely done at the insistence of foreign backers and supporters to make the Palestinian resistance to Israel seem less rabidly antisemitic.  The change was cosmetic at most.

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Hamas with a press vest on, the Israeli's were never fooled, same as using ambulances and hospitals to hide behind, 

Netanyahu says 'if we wanted to commit genocide, it would have taken exactly one afternoon' as Israel is accused of trying to starve Gaza

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29 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Netanyahu says 'if we wanted to commit genocide, it would have taken exactly one afternoon' as Israel is accused of trying to starve Gaza

Is that an admission he’s thought about how such a solution would be executed?

 

It does sound like it.

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:


And yet Israel have slaughtered at least  186 journalist since this war began.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq688qz3rlro

I think it safe to say, that were Israel targeting journalists, far more would be dead. 

 

If Israel wanted to slaughter journalists, why would they try to keep them out? Why not just let them all in, kill them all, and blame Hamas?

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Is that an admission he’s thought about how such a solution would be executed?

 

It does sound like it.

I think it safe to say most Jews have thought about it. 

 

Meanwhile, Hamas is trying to eradicate all Jews every day. 

34 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Netanyahu says 'if we wanted to commit genocide, it would have taken exactly one afternoon' as Israel is accused of trying to starve Gaza

He means use a nuclear bomb. 

Too obvious and Israel's master, the US, would never have allowed it. 

No, better to use the boil the frog method. 

Break the agreed ceasefire, cut off food, water, medical supplies,bomb  the civilian population to bits so life becomes untenable and the population will eventually want to move 

5 minutes ago, mogandave said:

I think it safe to say most Jews have thought about it. 

 

Meanwhile, Hamas is trying to eradicate all Jews every day. 

I thought the Israelis had beaten Hamas militarily about 18 months ago. 

How many Israelis have been killed by Hamas in the last 18 months?

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6 minutes ago, mogandave said:

I think it safe to say most Jews have thought about it. 

 

Meanwhile, Hamas is trying to eradicate all Jews every day. 

I don’t pretend to speak for most Jews.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I don’t pretend to speak for most Jews.

 

 

Who are you pretending to speak for?

4 minutes ago, bannork said:

I thought the Israelis had beaten Hamas militarily about 18 months ago. 

How many Israelis have been killed by Hamas in the last 18 months?

You thought wrong. Hamas will have been defeated when Hamas surrenders unconditionally, and after all the hostages have been released and or accounted for. 

 

Surly you must understand that. 

4 minutes ago, mogandave said:

You thought wrong. Hamas will have been defeated when Hamas surrenders unconditionally, and after all the hostages have been released and or accounted for. 

 

Surly you must understand that. 

What makes you think Hamas will surrender unconditionally?

I would have thought they would prefer death, martyrdom in their eyes, to surrender to Israeli forces.

As to the hostages, Hamas have already said they will be killed if Israel attacks.

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

What makes you think Hamas will surrender unconditionally?

I would have thought they would prefer death, martyrdom in their eyes, to surrender to Israeli forces.

As to the hostages, Hamas have already said they will be killed if Israel attacks.

You said Hamas had been defeated militarily. Clearly that is not the case, because they have not surrendered, and they are still holding hostages. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, mogandave said:

You said Hamas had been defeated militarily. Clearly that is not the case, because they have not surrendered, and they are still holding hostages. 

 

 

IDF assesses Hamas defeated militarily in all of Gaza, is now a guerrilla terror group | The Times of Israel https://share.google/asIUA7k8BnSs8e1Qg

On 8/11/2025 at 7:56 PM, TedG said:

 

I don't have any reason not to believe the IDF.  The IDF excels in the intelligence game. 

 

 

 

The dumb nations that recognize the Palestinian State can put their money where their mouth is and fund the Palestinian State.   These Palestinians are not capable of self-governance. 

The condition of recognition by Australia is only if Palestine is governed by independent country 

 

 

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