Putin had the trump card in his pocket.  When they were Sitting in the back of the car on the way to the Alaskan airbase, Putin  showed him some more kiddy fiddler  photos of where he was involved with Epstein. That’s why Trump had very little to say

1 hour ago, bamnutsak said:

 

 

Several reports from WH insiders are that this "summit" was a cock-up initiated by trump special envoy Witkoff (derisively referred to in trump admin  as "steve witless") getting bamboozled by putin. And trump wanted it put together quickly, and when the trump gang realized they got played, it was too late to back out.

 

Just the usual hack/amateur crap from the gang that can't shoot straight.

 

I think Susie Wiles will have trump on a short leash now as his physical and mental states are quickly getting worse, and no drug regimen seems to work now. Time to distract him with more White House decorating chores.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We'll never see a transcript of the meeting, but I'm sure Trump spent much of the time telling his buddy Putin about the new ballroom, and maybe even telling Putin he plans to set up corn dog and cotton candy kiosks on the paved-over former Rose Garden lawn.

 

I bet he also warned Putin about the dangers of electric boats in shark-filled waters.

 

The good news is Putin probably thought, "We don't need to nuke the USA; it's nuking itself with this bozo at the helm."

9 hours ago, Miloki said:

No one cares what the EU and especially the NY Times has to say on the matter.

And believe me, we are also re-evaluating who is actually a friend to the United States.  Countries or institutions like the EU and Israel should be on notice.  We're not getting sucked into your damned wars, the American people have had enough. 

I think we maintain some hope for the UK given our shared history, but that hope is fading fast.  Every Brit knows it, the UK Govt is not working for them, they are working for something else.

snip from your post "No one cares what the EU and especially the NY Times has to say on the matter".

 

Who are YOU claiming to speak for?

 

It certainly is NOT me, or anyone that I know.

 

Another snip "Every Brit knows it, the UK Govt is not working for them, they are working for something else".

 

Who gives YOU the right to speak for every Brit?

 

It really annoys me when people like you claim to speak for everybody, especially when it is impossible to do so. Simply speak for yourself only and anybody that you KNOW who agrees with you.

7 hours ago, Miloki said:

Putin agreed to take Quebec off our hands though, huge win for the 51st state.

 

 

Yet more BS from you.

 

Quebec does NOT belong to either the USA or Trump,

8 hours ago, MicroB said:

Don't worry Donny, just do what I want and I'll keep those pics of you with those Russian hookers and those with Epstein, out of the news!!! Also those with Melania in her previous position (literally).

I’m thinking even the trumpers are starting to understand just how unqualified and incompetent trump is gawd the guys just embarrassing.

Serious negotiations with with the wanted war criminal will now move to Moscow🤔 

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

Don't worry Donny, just do what I want and I'll keep those pics of you with those Russian hookers and those with Epstein, out of the news!!! Also those with Melania in her previous position (literally).

And just like that the democrats fantasy PeePee dossier was real again🤣

1 hour ago, Tug said:

I’m thinking even the trumpers are starting to understand just how unqualified and incompetent trump is gawd the guys just embarrassing.

Actually we are more surprised by former peace loving lefties wanting millions more to die rather than having their nemesis deliver a peaceful end to the conflict.

5 hours ago, impulse said:

if you're stupid enough to believe you can vote by text, maybe you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

 

Maybe so, same applies to MAGA supporters

4 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Result🤔

 

 

TACO

16 hours ago, theblether said:

 

He fails on every ceasefire he tries to end? What does that mean? 

that means HE DIDN'T DO A SINGLE ONE...., none, nothing, zero, ziltch, rien, nada, niente... and he's trying to get credit for it

16 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Well, to be fair he's also managed to make the oval office the most tasteless room on the planet. Pimps wouldn't be caught dead in there.

He is only copying all his trashy trump plazas,They look like someome vomited all over the walls. Trashy as only the village idiot Trump knows how.

My California Governor still has it going...

 

 

On 8/16/2025 at 11:48 AM, Harrisfan said:

How would you do a deal? You anti Trump whiners have no ideas. Putin does not care what the west says.

"Putin does not care what the west says". Exactly!

So, according to you, it is only the 'anti-Trumpy' followers that have no ideas?

Neither do you. There is no 'deal'. There never was!

Putin cannot continue this level of war on many fronts - hence the perpetual threats of WW3.

Troops, equipment, munitions or loyalty from his people - they want an end to it.

He's running out of funds to pay for his war effort. The people are starving and desperate.

He has no friends that can deliver worthwhile support. N. Korea, Iran or China.

Putin is humiliated every day by Ukraine - a tiny nation that has successfully opposed the mighty Russia for 3 years!

The oligarchs' are getting restless. Putin is beginning to panic - irrespective of his outward demeanor.

Whatever he has on Trump - and we all think he has something, he has no power over Putin. 

The west and Nato will  survive without the USA's help or whatever.

There is no deal! Just word salad for the mindless MAGA followers - everyone else knows that!

said best...

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

The Putin–Trump summit wasn’t about peace or Ukraine.
It was about Putin’s kompromat — The Epstein Files.
Epstein claimed he met Putin in Moscow (Michael Wolff).

Putin holds all the cards — while Trump nods like a Pinocchio marionette.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

https://youtu.be/QsCOW2id89c

 

Many of us do not consider Trump a particularly intelligent man, and I think it's obvious by now he's a terrible negotiator. This summit sure proved that. Putin whomped Trump. 

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin got everything he could have hoped for in Alaska. President Donald Trump got very little — judging by his own pre-summit metrics.

 

The question now is whether Trump secured any moderate gains or planted seeds for Ukraine’s future security if there’s an eventual peace deal with Russia that were not immediately obvious after Friday’s summit.

 

And he’s left with some searing strategic questions. Despite Trump’s claim to have made “a lot of progress” and that the summit was a “10 out of 10,” all signs point to a huge win for the Russian autocrat.

Trump’s lavish stage production of Putin’s arrival Friday, with near-simultaneous exits from presidential jets and red-carpet strolls, provided some image rehabilitation for a leader who is a pariah in the rest of the West and who is accused of war crimes in Ukraine.

 

Before the summit, Trump obliterated careful efforts by his staff to lower expectations when he told Fox News, “I won’t be happy if I walk away without some form of a ceasefire.”

But the underlying premise of Trump’s peacemaking is that the force of his personality and his supposedly unique status as the world’s greatest dealmaker can end wars. That myth is looking very ragged after his long flight home from Alaska.

Trump’s style-before-substance strategy clearly backfired in Alaska. Putin appeared far more prepared as Trump winged it. In retrospect, it’s hard to see what the Russian president offered to US envoy Steve Witkoff in the Kremlin that convinced the administration that the Alaska talks were a good idea.

 

But Trump's failure so far to end the Ukraine war that he pledged would be so easy to fix — along with US complicity in the humanitarian disaster in Gaza — means a legacy as a peacemaker and the Nobel Prize that he craves remain out of reach.

 

Trump gets an F grade for his performance at the summit. Putin gets a solid A.

 

 

7 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

The Putin–Trump summit wasn’t about peace or Ukraine.
It was about Putin’s kompromat — The Epstein Files.
Epstein claimed he met Putin in Moscow (Michael Wolff).

Putin holds all the cards — while Trump nods like a Pinocchio marionette.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

https://youtu.be/QsCOW2id89c

 

 

I have said as much re: the files......... thinking Putin might have hacked the DOJ/FBI but only in jest........YIKES!!!

15 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Skipping cease-fire discussions would give Russia an advantage in the talks, which are expected to continue on Monday when President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine visits Mr. Trump at the White House. It breaks from a strategy Mr. Trump and European allies, as well as Mr. Zelensky, had agreed to before the U.S.-Russia summit in Alaska.

As Trump was completely ridiculed by Putin, I am afraid that VZ will be treated in the oval office like in February, because Trump wants to proof to Vladimir what a strong supporter he is.

9 minutes ago, chercheur888 said:

As Trump was completely ridiculed by Putin, I am afraid that VZ will be treated in the oval office like in February, because Trump wants to proof to Vladimir what a strong supporter he is.

I was surprised to read the same take that VZ is in for another hard time at the WH

 

29 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

I have said as much re: the files......... thinking Putin might have hacked the DOJ/FBI but only in jest........YIKES!!!

Putin was already rummaging through the DNC and Hillary’s inbox like it was his personal filing cabinet — who knows what he hasn’t already got tucked away on Trump.

But there’s no doubting his gimp-on-a-leash level of absolute control over him.

1 hour ago, chercheur888 said:

As Trump was completely ridiculed by Putin, I am afraid that VZ will be treated in the oval office like in February, because Trump wants to proof to Vladimir what a strong supporter he is.

Well, let's hope Zelensky is prepared this time.

 

on other news the maga cronies are fed up with Trumps loosing strike, the majority of them know and claim that their cult leader was royally fukkkkd by Putin and that's a big loss for them as their leader lost any credibility he had left, which was not a lot, the international community is not surprised at all as that's what they were expecting, the one happy one is XI, with Trump being maneuvered by Putin now China can focus on Taiwan, they have nothing to worry with the loser at the WH

 

However, Wolff noted that it is clear that Trump left Alaska as the loser, and those in the president’s camp surely know it, too.

 

“Trump got f---ed,” he said, agreeing with The Washington Post’s assessment that the summit was more pomp than substance. “We got nothing out of this. This is, you know, this is really, really a loss for Trump, and potentially a loss for Ukraine.”

 

Trump Circles Drop F-Bomb After ‘Failure’ Putin Summit: Wolff

https://au.news.yahoo.com/trump-circles-drop-f-bomb-184940263.html

 

world leaders now know how to deal with Trump, by praising him and is (NO) accomplishments, even Putin knew about it and he played it right at the right time and the right place, he knew what a senile old man needed to hear and he went full blast, Putin smirks said it all

'Child Like Behaviour': Trump Mocked As He Falls For Putin's Flattery

https://au.news.yahoo.com/child-behaviour-trump-mocked-falls-073455340.html

and this being how the confidential documents are archive and kept in a safe place by the Trump maga babies, I know some will be claiming that was a printed out menu 555 with phone numbers and names 555

 

 

U.S. State Department documents containing sensitive government information were discovered on a public printer at an Alaska hotel, two hours before a high-stakes summit between U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Eight pages — containing a schedule, several phone numbers of government employees, and a luncheon menu — were found in a public hotel printer at Hotel Captain Cook in Anchorage, a 20-minute drive from Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson where the two world leaders met Friday to discuss the future of the war in Ukraine.

State department papers left behind on Alaska hotel printer reveal sensitive Trump-Putin summit details

https://au.news.yahoo.com/state-department-papers-left-behind-202554761.html

9 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

on other news the maga cronies are fed up with Trumps loosing strike, the majority of them know and claim that their cult leader was royally fukkkkd by Putin and that's a big loss for them as their leader lost any credibility he had left, which was not a lot, the international community is not surprised at all as that's what they were expecting, the one happy one is XI, with Trump being maneuvered by Putin now China can focus on Taiwan, they have nothing to worry with the loser at the WH

 

However, Wolff noted that it is clear that Trump left Alaska as the loser, and those in the president’s camp surely know it, too.

 

“Trump got f---ed,” he said, agreeing with The Washington Post’s assessment that the summit was more pomp than substance. “We got nothing out of this. This is, you know, this is really, really a loss for Trump, and potentially a loss for Ukraine.”

 

Trump Circles Drop F-Bomb After ‘Failure’ Putin Summit: Wolff

https://au.news.yahoo.com/trump-circles-drop-f-bomb-184940263.html

 

It must feel pretty awful at this moment being a Trump supporter, and seeing the extreme level of incompetence that they are supporting and his complete fealty to Putin. 

Have you noticed how silent the Trump supporters are at this moment? I think even they are astounded at the extreme level of surrender by Trump, at this summit meeting. Yikes.