recently I had a tree cut down in my own garden, security seemed concerned,

all of a sudden he walked on to my property which is totally private, therefore trespassing, to take photos of someone cutting the tree in my garden down.

 

is what he did legal? or do I have grounds to sue?

he did not ask for mine or mrs. kowalski's permission, he just brazenly walked through my gate, smoking on the job to boot..

 

thanks.

Im guessing you rent that property, so you have no idea what agreement he has.

 

Do you know the species of tree and whether or not it is in fact protected?

Did you have the landlord's permission to cut the tree?

What size chainsaw was used? Did it exceed the legal limit on bar length ?

 

So many questions need answering before anyone can begin to answer you correctly.

 

More info, please. 😀

 

To answer the question vaguely, it really depends if the guard felt there was danger to person or property, then yes he can act accordingly.

Just now, CharlieH said:

Im guessing you rent that property, so you have no idea what agreement he has.

 

Do you know the psecies of tree and whather or not it is in fact protected.

Did you have the landlords permission to cut the tree?

What size chainsaw was used, did it exceed the legal limit on bar length ?

 

So many questions need answering before anyone can begin to answer you correctly.

 

More info please 😀

Mrs. Kowalski owns the property out right. 

1 minute ago, Walt Kowalski said:

Mrs. Kowalski owns the property out right. 

 

Still need to answer all of the above questions....

1 minute ago, CharlieH said:

 

Still need to answer all of the above questions....

Charlie, whatever tree happens to be on MY WIFES LAND/PROPERTY, has nothing to do with anyone else.

1 minute ago, Walt Kowalski said:

Charlie, whatever tree happens to be on MY WIFES LAND/PROPERTY, has nothing to do with anyone else.

Sorry you are very wrong; the size and species matter these days. It has to be approved and felled in the correct manner, or there can be severe legal consequences.

 

2 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Sorry you are very wrong; the size and species matter these days. It has to be approved and felled in the correct manner, or there can be severe legal consequences.

 

any laws you can quote me on this?

• Forest Act (1941) and Preservation of Reserved Forests Act (1964) regulate cutting trees, even on private land.

• Until 2019, many species were fully protected. After amendments in 2019, restrictions were relaxed for some common commercial trees (like teak, rosewood, Yang, etc.) if grown on private land with proper land documents.

• Protected species (such as rosewood phayung, Yang na, teak, etc.) usually require approval from the Royal Forest Department (RFD) before cutting.

• Large trees: Even non-protected species may require local administrative approval if the tree is very large and could pose a safety issue during felling.

• Cutting without permission can lead to fines and even jail time, especially if the tree is listed as protected hardwood.

3 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

• Forest Act (1941) and Preservation of Reserved Forests Act (1964) regulate cutting trees, even on private land.

• Until 2019, many species were fully protected. After amendments in 2019, restrictions were relaxed for some common commercial trees (like teak, rosewood, Yang, etc.) if grown on private land with proper land documents.

• Protected species (such as rosewood phayung, Yang na, teak, etc.) usually require approval from the Royal Forest Department (RFD) before cutting.

• Large trees: Even non-protected species may require local administrative approval if the tree is very large and could pose a safety issue during felling.

• Cutting without permission can lead to fines and even jail time, especially if the tree is listed as protected hardwood.

Thanks.

 

But does that still make it legal for a security guard to walk on to my wifes land without permission?

Just now, Walt Kowalski said:

Thanks.

 

But does that still make it legal for a security guard to walk on to my wifes land without permission?

 

Depends entirely on what his brief is in that community is, what he did or didn't see, what he did or didnt witness and if he felt there was a danger to person or property in the action being taken.

Just now, CharlieH said:

 

Depends entirely on what his brief is in that community is, what he did or didn't see, what he did or didnt witness and if he felt there was a danger to person or property in the action being taken.

Does it now? 

 

Guess i'll have to just take this up with my lawyer.

Just now, Walt Kowalski said:

Does it now? 

 

Guess i'll have to just take this up with my lawyer.

 

Yep, good idea, always wise to consult a legal professional before going off half-cocked. 😀 and embarrasing yourself.

1 minute ago, CharlieH said:

 

Yep, good idea, always wise to consult a legal professional before going off half-cocked. 😀 and embarrasing yourself.

That's never happened.

 

I usually always win.

Bob, on this thread from last year you found security lacking, why do you think they are now so vigilant?

 

 

1 minute ago, marin said:

Bob, on this thread from last year you found security lacking, why do you think they are now so vigilant?

 

 

Why are you constantly stalking me and calling me bob??

 

Please get a life and go back to peeling potatoes for dinner.

2 minutes ago, Walt Kowalski said:

Please get a life and go back to peeling potatoes for dinner.

How did you know I am making mash tonight. Guess what meat to go with it!!😃Do you think I will make a gravy from stock and roux?

1 minute ago, marin said:

Guess what meat to go with it

Definitely an extra large Sausage for you!!...

2 minutes ago, Walt Kowalski said:

Definitely an extra large Sausage for you!!...

Wrong. Come on bob us Yanks like our hot dogs in a bun with the condiment of our choice. 

 

 

Now once again lets get back to your hyper vigilant security guard. Ours tend to guard the gates. 

11 minutes ago, Walt Kowalski said:

usually always

Uh huh

4 minutes ago, marin said:

Wrong. Come on bob us Yanks like our hot dogs in a bun with the condiment of our choice. 

 

 

Now once again lets get back to your hyper vigilant security guard. Ours tend to guard the gates. 

Would you willingly let a total stranger on to you our your wife's property, without any permission being granted?

4 minutes ago, Walt Kowalski said:

Would you willingly let a total stranger on to you our your wife's property, without any permission being granted?

You obviously did😁

Just now, Will27 said:

You obviously did😁

yeah, court case to follow soon..... he barged in.

Pathetic!  This is not Kansas.....  Don''t you have more important matters to moan about?

55 minutes ago, Walt Kowalski said:

Charlie, whatever tree happens to be on MY WIFES LAND/PROPERTY, has nothing to do with anyone else.

Before you know it, you have an army of these people monitoring you: https://ecothailand.org/trees/#:~:text=EcoThailand Foundation are actively engaged in cataloguing, monitoring,in supporting the Earth’s biodiversity and ecological balance.

40 minutes ago, Walt Kowalski said:

That's never happened.

 

I usually always win.

You are not a party in this, as your wife owns the property.

26 minutes ago, Walt Kowalski said:

Would you willingly let a total stranger on to you our your wife's property, without any permission being granted?

Maybe he is your wife's lover.

28 minutes ago, Walt Kowalski said:

Would you willingly let a total stranger on to you our your wife's property, without any permission being granted?

We have lived in our muban for 26 years. Our security would never enter the property without asking, or being asked. I think most here know that living in a gated muban means the security works for you. They are be no means total strangers as you see the residents stopping to give them food, drinks fruit and the such.  Lots of friends here and in other mubans throughout Thailand. I am sure your situation has never occurred with any of them. A "bob one off" I guess you could say.

10 minutes ago, marin said:

We have lived in our muban for 26 years. Our security would never enter the property without asking, or being asked. I think most here know that living in a gated muban means the security works for you. They are be no means total strangers as you see the residents stopping to give them food, drinks fruit and the such.  Lots of friends here and in other mubans throughout Thailand. I am sure your situation has never occurred with any of them. A "bob one off" I guess you could say.

Muban security guards are about a useful as chocolate fireguards. all they do is eat, sleep and play phone.

20 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

1 hour ago, Walt Kowalski said:

That's never happened.

 

I usually always win.

You are not a party in this, as your wife owns the property.

 

As a practical matter, I'm wondering what he stands to "win" even if he prevails in any lawsuit.

 

The downside, of course, is that the neighborhood will have a pissed off security guy with a chip on his shoulder.  I kinda like having those guys looking out for me and mine.

 

9 minutes ago, Walt Kowalski said:

Muban security guards are about a useful as chocolate fireguards. all they do is eat, sleep and play phone.

Damn your muban must be awful. First last year you are complaining there is a drunk Thai guy asleep on your gate, then you claim he swore at you when you asked him to leave. How did he get in there? He would never have gotten into any muban I know of. I feel for you bob. Do you live in fear?