September 1, 2025Sep 1 Popular Post 22 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Any shooting anywhere is bad, but the OP here is clearly aimed at disparaging Chicago and making a poor case for Trump to send in the National Guard and/or U.S. military. Meanwhile, contrary to the political rhetoric, here's the reality: Red States Have Higher Gun Death Rates Than Blue States. Here’s Why Apr 28, 2023 "A new study published in Journal of the American Medical Association’s Surgery found that firearm deaths are more likely in small rural towns than in major urban cities, adding to research that contradicts common belief that Democratic blue areas have higher incidences of gun-related deaths than do Republican red districts. Researchers from Children’s Hospital Philadelphia, Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health and the University of California examined two decades of mortality rates and cause-of-death data from the National Center for Health Statistics’ National Vital Statistics System to compile the study. A Third Way report found that between 2000 and 2020, Trump-voting states had 12% higher murder rates than did Biden-voting cities. Data shows that in 2020, eight of the ten states with the highest murder rates voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election in this century. [emphasis added] (more) https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-states-have-higher-gun-death-rates-than-blue-states-heres-why/ AND So when's Trump going to start sending the National Guard to Louisiana, Alabama, Wyoming, etc etc.? Of course, he won't... It's only going to be to Democrat-dominated cities and states, because his real game is about politics, not public safety. That CDC table you posted is not the murder rate. The CDC data includes suicide, homicide, accidents, legal intervention, etc. I expect nothing less from Third Way.
September 1, 2025Sep 1 44 minutes ago, shdmn said: Seems to be an outbreak of bone spurs among national guardsmen, but no worries, RFK Jr is looking into it. Link ?
September 1, 2025Sep 1 Meanwhile..... Here in Thailand, all is very peaceful.... IMPORTANT NOTE: I ain't NEVER going back to the USA..... I would rather live in any SE Asian country. But, IF NOT Thailand, then I will choose Japan, thank you.
September 1, 2025Sep 1 On 8/31/2025 at 11:47 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Any shooting anywhere is bad, but the OP here is clearly aimed at disparaging Chicago and making a poor case for Trump to send in the National Guard and/or U.S. military. Meanwhile, contrary to the political rhetoric, here's the reality: Red States Have Higher Gun Death Rates Than Blue States. Here’s Why Apr 28, 2023 "A new study published in Journal of the American Medical Association’s Surgery found that firearm deaths are more likely in small rural towns than in major urban cities, adding to research that contradicts common belief that Democratic blue areas have higher incidences of gun-related deaths than do Republican red districts. Researchers from Children’s Hospital Philadelphia, Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health and the University of California examined two decades of mortality rates and cause-of-death data from the National Center for Health Statistics’ National Vital Statistics System to compile the study. A Third Way report found that between 2000 and 2020, Trump-voting states had 12% higher murder rates than did Biden-voting cities. Data shows that in 2020, eight of the ten states with the highest murder rates voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election in this century. [emphasis added] (more) https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-states-have-higher-gun-death-rates-than-blue-states-heres-why/ AND So when's Trump going to start sending the National Guard to Louisiana, Alabama, Wyoming, etc etc.? Of course, he won't... It's only going to be to Democrat-dominated cities and states, because his real game is about politics, not public safety. Trump only has to send the National Guard to New Orleans, the murder capital of the South. Mayor is a Democrat named LaToya Cantrell ... do a google search for the finne leader.She fits perfectly in to that cesspool of blue voters on foodstamps. The rest of the State is Republican and doesn't have the same problems as this colorfull city.
September 1, 2025Sep 1 Author Popular Post 56 minutes ago, TedG said: That CDC table you posted is not the murder rate. The CDC data includes suicide, homicide, accidents, legal intervention, etc. I expect nothing less from Third Way. The Chicago Labor Day weekend show ! Historic! Don't bother to look,for any other city matching this Dem Democracy. Chicago had the highest number of shootings during Labor Day weekend 2025 (August 29–September 1) among major U.S. cities, with 52 people shot and 7 fatally. https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-shootings-labor-day-weekend-least-32-shot-3-fatally-gun-violence-city-police-department-says/17701051/
September 1, 2025Sep 1 Popular Post 23 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: So when's Trump going to start sending the National Guard to Louisiana, Alabama, Wyoming, etc etc.? Of course, he won't... It's only going to be to Democrat-dominated cities and states, because his real game is about politics, not public safety. Based on the data, what areas of the state would you send the National Guard to in Louisiana, Alabama and Wyoming? Based on the murder rate data, I'd start with Washington DC.
September 2, 2025Sep 2 8 hours ago, ericthai said: so if they dont have a gun then no suicided?? I'm sorry to tell you but it dont work like that. My friend hung himself two years ago.. if you are planning on killing yourself gun or no gun it doesn't matter. Sorry to hear about your friend. I'm not saying no guns no suicides. However "Suicide by means of firearm outnumbered all other means combined (U.S., 2020)." https://sprc.org/about-suicide/scope-of-the-problem/means-of-suicide/ 53% of suicides among males are by firearm.
September 2, 2025Sep 2 9 hours ago, ericthai said: I really dont think that's how criminals get guns. I think most are stolen and then others are smuggled into the USA. The routes for illegal guns are various. "Illegal trafficking Trafficking is the diversion of guns from legal commerce to the illegal market. Traffickers often move guns from states with weaker gun laws to states with stricter regulations for illegal resale, fueling crime in states with low gun availability. Corrupt gun dealers: A small number of licensed gun dealers who knowingly engage in illegal sales are responsible for a disproportionately large volume of guns that end up in the hands of criminals. Unlicensed sellers: Unlicensed private sellers, who are not required to conduct background checks in many states, can sell guns to individuals prohibited from owning them. This creates a major gap that traffickers and criminals can exploit. International smuggling: Some firearms are smuggled across international borders for resale on the black market. ... According to a 2019 Department of Justice survey, incarcerated criminals reported obtaining firearms through the following means: 43%: Black market 15%: Friend or relative 12%: Found at a crime scene 11%: Straw purchase 10%: Retail purchase (before being legally prohibited) 6%: Theft " from Google AI summary of query "how do guns in illegal hands get there" "Most illegal guns in the United States are domestically manufactured and then enter the illegal market through theft or illicit sales . They do not originate in another country and get smuggled in." from Google AI summary of query "where are most illegal guns in us manufactured" So guessing is one thing... but 6% theft and guns "do not originate in another country and get smuggled in."
September 2, 2025Sep 2 12 hours ago, cdemundo said: The routes for illegal guns are various. "Illegal trafficking Trafficking is the diversion of guns from legal commerce to the illegal market. Traffickers often move guns from states with weaker gun laws to states with stricter regulations for illegal resale, fueling crime in states with low gun availability. Corrupt gun dealers: A small number of licensed gun dealers who knowingly engage in illegal sales are responsible for a disproportionately large volume of guns that end up in the hands of criminals. Unlicensed sellers: Unlicensed private sellers, who are not required to conduct background checks in many states, can sell guns to individuals prohibited from owning them. This creates a major gap that traffickers and criminals can exploit. International smuggling: Some firearms are smuggled across international borders for resale on the black market. ... According to a 2019 Department of Justice survey, incarcerated criminals reported obtaining firearms through the following means: 43%: Black market 15%: Friend or relative 12%: Found at a crime scene 11%: Straw purchase 10%: Retail purchase (before being legally prohibited) 6%: Theft " from Google AI summary of query "how do guns in illegal hands get there" "Most illegal guns in the United States are domestically manufactured and then enter the illegal market through theft or illicit sales . They do not originate in another country and get smuggled in." from Google AI summary of query "where are most illegal guns in us manufactured" So guessing is one thing... but 6% theft and guns "do not originate in another country and get smuggled in." your last sentence you wrote " and guns "do not originate in another country and get smuggled in" " Did you read what you wrote??? International smuggling: Some firearms are smuggled across international borders for resale on the black market. ... According to a 2019 Department of Justice survey, incarcerated criminals reported obtaining firearms through the following means: 43%: Black market
September 2, 2025Sep 2 12 hours ago, cdemundo said: Sorry to hear about your friend. I'm not saying no guns no suicides. However "Suicide by means of firearm outnumbered all other means combined (U.S., 2020)." https://sprc.org/about-suicide/scope-of-the-problem/means-of-suicide/ 53% of suicides among males are by firearm. Thank you, he was a good guy. He tried a couple of times before, one time he stabbed himself in the chest.
September 2, 2025Sep 2 One guy in Australia shooting two policemen dead makes the national news for a week, and counting. Even got to the BBC. In America, such an event might make the front page for the morning edition. What does that say about how each country is inured to violence?
September 2, 2025Sep 2 Author Reported update :"9 dead 52 wounded. Chicago saw its most violent holiday weekend of the summer". Your thoughts! My Thoughts,I think you already know,Chicago's Labor Day weekend was a brutal bloodbath, with 9 killed and 52 wounded, making it the city's deadliest summer holiday. https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2025/09/02/labor-day-weekend-violence-crime-brandon-johnson-donald-trump
September 2, 2025Sep 2 On 9/1/2025 at 12:47 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Any shooting anywhere is bad, but the OP here is clearly aimed at disparaging Chicago and making a poor case for Trump to send in the National Guard and/or U.S. military. Meanwhile, contrary to the political rhetoric, here's the reality: Red States Have Higher Gun Death Rates Than Blue States. Here’s Why Apr 28, 2023 "A new study published in Journal of the American Medical Association’s Surgery found that firearm deaths are more likely in small rural towns than in major urban cities, adding to research that contradicts common belief that Democratic blue areas have higher incidences of gun-related deaths than do Republican red districts. Researchers from Children’s Hospital Philadelphia, Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health and the University of California examined two decades of mortality rates and cause-of-death data from the National Center for Health Statistics’ National Vital Statistics System to compile the study. A Third Way report found that between 2000 and 2020, Trump-voting states had 12% higher murder rates than did Biden-voting cities. Data shows that in 2020, eight of the ten states with the highest murder rates voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election in this century. [emphasis added] (more) https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-states-have-higher-gun-death-rates-than-blue-states-heres-why/ AND So when's Trump going to start sending the National Guard to Louisiana, Alabama, Wyoming, etc etc.? Of course, he won't... It's only going to be to Democrat-dominated cities and states, because his real game is about politics, not public safety. It's the blue cities in red states that drive the crime numbers.
September 2, 2025Sep 2 On 9/1/2025 at 10:16 AM, Purdey said: The evidence is out there. The top five homicide rates among large population centers — those with more than a million residents — were the cities of: Memphis, Tennessee (Shelby County) St. Louis, Missouri (St. Louis city) Baltimore, Maryland (Baltimore city) Washington, DC, (District of Columbia, DC) Birmingham, Alabama (Jefferson County). https://usafacts.org/articles/which-cities-have-the-highest-murder-rates/ No doubt other cities have issues with gun violence because, well people have guns but the myth of good guys with guns has not helped. All blue cities
September 2, 2025Sep 2 Author During a Labor Day Speech Mayor Johnson rallies support for Chicago's Dem Democracy,as the city hits historic Labor Day weekend shooting deaths .Chicago’s Labor Day turned into a bloodbath,worst holiday weekend this summer,as the update suggests earlier in the thread. Mayor Johnson’s out there at his Labor Day Workers Over Billionaires rally, screaming ,"No Federal Troops, No Military Force in Chicago, We have to Defend our Democracy"! video 4:14
September 2, 2025Sep 2 4 hours ago, Lacessit said: One guy in Australia shooting two policemen dead makes the national news for a week, and counting. Even got to the BBC. In America, such an event might make the front page for the morning edition. What does that say about how each country is inured to violence? It depends on the who the shooter is.
September 2, 2025Sep 2 Final tally: Chicago shootings: 58 shot, 8 fatally, in Labor Day weekend gun violence, police say The Bronzeville neighborhood saw two mass shootings within 48 hours. CHICAGO (WLS) -- At least 58 people have been shot, eight fatally, in shootings across Chicago over the Labor Day weekend, police said. The weekend gun violence comes as the Trump administration prepares to potentially deploy the National Guard to the Chicago area. https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-shootings-labor-day-weekend-least-32-shot-3-fatally-gun-violence-city-police-department-says/17701051/ An observation and a question: 1) 23 more shot and three more dead after the OP in this thread was posted; and 2) Does anyone want to guess what the demographics of the Bronzeville neighborhood are? However bad this seems, it has been worse in Chicago. From July 9, 2024: Chicago reels from bloody July 4 weekend with 109 people shot — 19 fatally Chicago was plagued by bloodshed during the long Fourth of July holiday weekend, when 109 people were shot and 19 were killed, authorities said. ... The youngest victim was 8-year-old Bryson Orr, who was killed along with two female relatives in a shooting at a home in the Grand Crossing neighborhood the morning of July 4. Two other boys, ages 5 and 7, were injured, NBC Chicago reported. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-reels-bloody-july-4-weekend-109-people-shot-19-fatally-rcna160825
September 3, 2025Sep 3 11 hours ago, ericthai said: your last sentence you wrote " and guns "do not originate in another country and get smuggled in" " Did you read what you wrote??? International smuggling: Some firearms are smuggled across international borders for resale on the black market. ... According to a 2019 Department of Justice survey, incarcerated criminals reported obtaining firearms through the following means: 43%: Black market " Some firearms are smuggled across international borders for resale on the black market..." This does not say all black market firearms are smuggled from abroad. Again quoting from the Google AI Summary to the question: "do illegal firearms in the us originate in foreign countries?" "No, most illegal firearms in the U.S. do not originate in foreign countries. The majority of firearms used in U.S. crimes begin as legal guns within the United States before being diverted into illegal markets through methods like straw purchases, theft, or corrupt dealers. " Couldn't be more straight forward an answer. "No, most illegal firearms in the U.S. do not originate in foreign countries." If I understand your interpretation you are concluding that all weapons on the black market are smuggled from abroad. That is not what the text I quoted says. Also, a lot of folks think that most guns used in crimes are stolen. The Department of Justice stats don't support this idea.
September 3, 2025Sep 3 On 9/1/2025 at 9:26 AM, GammaGlobulin said: Meanwhile..... Here in Thailand, all is very peaceful.... IMPORTANT NOTE: I ain't NEVER going back to the USA..... I would rather live in any SE Asian country. But, IF NOT Thailand, then I will choose Japan, thank you. Just came back to my home from thailand and its 100% safer. You should go to japan they drive better there
September 3, 2025Sep 3 On 9/1/2025 at 11:20 PM, TedG said: Link ? Uhhm, you realize Borowitz is a satirist right?
September 3, 2025Sep 3 Author 11 hours ago, Evil Penevil said: Final tally: Chicago shootings: 58 shot, 8 fatally, in Labor Day weekend gun violence, police say The Bronzeville neighborhood saw two mass shootings within 48 hours. CHICAGO (WLS) -- At least 58 people have been shot, eight fatally, in shootings across Chicago over the Labor Day weekend, police said. The weekend gun violence comes as the Trump administration prepares to potentially deploy the National Guard to the Chicago area. https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-shootings-labor-day-weekend-least-32-shot-3-fatally-gun-violence-city-police-department-says/17701051/ An observation and a question: 1) 23 more shot and three more dead after the OP in this thread was posted; and 2) Does anyone want to guess what the demographics of the Bronzeville neighborhood are? However bad this seems, it has been worse in Chicago. From July 9, 2024: Chicago reels from bloody July 4 weekend with 109 people shot — 19 fatally Chicago was plagued by bloodshed during the long Fourth of July holiday weekend, when 109 people were shot and 19 were killed, authorities said. ... The youngest victim was 8-year-old Bryson Orr, who was killed along with two female relatives in a shooting at a home in the Grand Crossing neighborhood the morning of July 4. Two other boys, ages 5 and 7, were injured, NBC Chicago reported. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-reels-bloody-july-4-weekend-109-people-shot-19-fatally-rcna160825 Thanks for showing the tragedy of raw Chicago ! We who support law & order salute the efforts.
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