11 hours ago, short-Timer said:

More obsessing about your 24/7 bargirl disorder.

 

although he is obsessed with the topic, it is a rather unique phenomena that only exists in thailand probably?

or maybe colombia too? 

so maybe worth some psychological exploration ... although I doubt he will get too many academic deep psychological replies and be able to submit a Phd on the topic. 

 

11 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

so maybe worth some psychological exploration ... although I doubt he will get too many academic deep psychological replies

It has been disappointing so far but hopefully tomorrow will bring something more academic.

 

As you say it is a uniquely Thai thing.

Prostitutes are in every country but only in Thailand is it a common daily event to come across these sort of “couples”, these couples getting married and more often than not the farang sponsoring her to stop working, but also to take on financial responsibility for her children and extended family as if it is perfectly normal to do so.

 

These Thai hookers are absolute top of the game.

They are not after your money.

 

They are after your house!

6 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Having sex with someone who doesn’t really want have sex with them is unappealing. Feels similar to raping someone.

That sentence is built up like it would be written by someone with deep experience in the subject.

 

Glad to see that you didn´t miss to make another version of same threads that you seem to be deep in love with.

You have serious issues.

Sure - "bad guys go to Pats"...also guys with low social skills, aged out market, not too hot in looks or style...every variant of the sexual access disadvantaged back home.

7 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

I like paying. There are no free options. Neither financially nor emotionally. Pick and choose different models. It's awesome. 

5-day trade in plan ?

Forever 21 ?

I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave ?

 

I wish they had a herpes vaccine out sooner...I never want that HSV-2 down below...it is so high in the Thai sex worker scene..

- 70% or something.

 

As yet, I have no STDs...maybe dormant HSV-1 which is oral cold sores in plain English....which is so common...can be aysmptomatic all of your life with it.

I think so. I have met many expats who are married to bargirls and I have noticed no connection to reality as regards their judgment.

My initial thought was to agree with you, MalcolmB, but after some deep reflection, I've come to a different conclusion. I've realized I'm a sociopath, and yet I chose a normal girl.

9 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Feels similar to raping someone.

Could you enlarge a little on how you feel when you rape someone?

Few points to ponder. 

 

First, even if the lady was never a prostitute, society in Thailand be it amogst locals or foreigners/expats, will always thing that the lady was a bargirl/prostitute on seeing any couple with a foreign man and a local lady. 

 

Second, even the most cunning of sociapaths from the west can get trapped by a smart Thai lady and the guy end's up loosing his very house, with no regard to all that he paid before for the lady and her family.

 

A Thai lady with greedy intentions is far more smart that the biggest sociopath from any western country. 

 

So in this context, I would be more concerned for the guys. But then, "a fool and his money are soon parted"...

 

 

10 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Empaths take into consideration whether or not a girlfriend or wife actually likes them and actually wants to be with them. Emphaths will not want to be with someone who didn’t actually want to be with them and only pretended to want them because they are being paid to pretend.

Having sex with someone who doesn’t really want have sex with them is unappealing. Feels similar to raping someone.

 

Whereas this simply doesn’t matter to a sociopath or narcissist as they only ever consider their own feelings.

It simply isn’t a consideration for them. Doesn’t occur to them.

Sociopaths/Narcissists actually prefer to control people and what could be more controlling than taking a bargirl (often much younger and less educated) out of the bar, taking away her source of income and then have her to rely on him for everything in a full time role mostly losing all her freedom as well.

 

Sociopaths/ Narcissists don’t feel love, but they love control. It is an ideal opportunity.

 

On the other hand studies have shown that prostitutes also have higher percentages of Antisocial Personality Disorders but these types are unlikely to get into a relationship with another narcissist or sociopath that they can not manipulate easily. It just wouldn’t work. They would prefer to milk as many suckers as possible to maximize earnings. They will prey on other personality types.

 

 

 

 

But if they have disorders how can they go with one man? A narc 

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Could you enlarge a little on how you feel when you rape someone?

 

 He is clearly a very ****** up person.

 

 

14 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Which raises the issue, "what is control" really? I had a girl who would at first text me every day every hour, every half hour even. But after a while of course texting gets old, even phone calls get old, so she got tired of it.

 

And I told her after one of her 4 hour and 8 hour periods of her not texting "look, this is not acceptable, we're long distance, you have to text me in reasonable intervals". She took it as "you want to control me". Which I found somewhat ridiculous, after all a text takes 15 seconds, it's not much to ask.

 

But these days girls want to be able to do everything, their way, whatever the want. If you lay down any boundaries at all then you're "controlling" .

Right.Some girls say they been wery busy and no time for replying a msg.It only take a second to send a sticker i use to say.And often they then get upset.I don't care..just stop talking with them.

On 9/1/2025 at 3:08 AM, MalcolmB said:

Empaths take into consideration whether or not a girlfriend or wife actually likes them and actually wants to be with them. Emphaths will not want to be with someone who didn’t actually want to be with them and only pretended to want them because they are being paid to pretend.

 

You can completely flip the script if you look at it a different way.

 

It's empathic to grab a woman out of a bar and support a woman financially who can't find a decent job due to poor education skills. 

 

27 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

You can completely flip the script if you look at it a different way.

 

It's empathic to grab a woman out of a bar and support a woman financially who can't find a decent job due to poor education skills. 

 

Interesting.

So the bargirls attract both ends of the spectrum.

 

The lucky ones end up with the empaths and the unlucky end up with the psychos.

And the normal people just settle with normal women with normal jobs.

3 hours ago, norsurin said:

Right.Some girls say they been wery busy and no time for replying a msg.It only take a second to send a sticker i use to say.And often they then get upset.I don't care..just stop talking with them.

Were your feelings hurt when they didn’t send you a sticker?

8 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

First, even if the lady was never a prostitute, society in Thailand be it amogst locals or foreigners/expats, will always thing that the lady was a bargirl/prostitute on seeing any couple with a foreign man and a local lady.

Or perhaps she was just a woman who craved a larger penis size.

Some girls can not get off with 3.9 inches. 
 

I think that is part of the reason that thai women like me so much with my 4.2 inches.

8 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

A Thai lady with greedy intentions is far more smart that the biggest sociopath from any western country. 

That is a big call.

9 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Could you enlarge a little on how you feel when you rape someone?

A very hollow feeling much like sex with a prostitute.

9 hours ago, Celsius said:

My initial thought was to agree with you, MalcolmB, but after some deep reflection, I've come to a different conclusion. I've realized I'm a sociopath, and yet I chose a normal girl.

Good choice.

9 hours ago, Felton Jarvis said:

I think so. I have met many expats who are married to bargirls and I have noticed no connection to reality as regards their judgment.

I agree with that assessment.

 

They can appear normal at the start but the cracks always appear.

 

They is something off about them, not quite right.

11 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

You have serious issues.

Well it is a serious issue.

Anyone that is in, or has had a relationship with a sociopath or narcissist will tell you that.

For them, there is no cure.

7 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

 He is clearly a very ****** up person.

 

 

cashed? 

12 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Because I have lived in Phuket for over a year and I see it everyday.

I never saw it at other places I have lived.

It seems to be a uniquely Thai westerner thing.

And what about your thing. Going out with Men in dresses makes us think you are a raving queer

5 minutes ago, Grumpy one said:

And what about your thing. Going out with Men in dresses makes us think you are a raving queer

I am not queer.

 

But my boyfriend is.

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

I am not queer.

 

But my boyfriend is.

And there it is, you are some guys bitch 

12 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Because I have lived in Phuket for over a year and I see it everyday.

I never saw it at other places I have lived.

It seems to be a uniquely Thai westerner thing.

Not even close.

 

Perhaps you are fooled when you see a Thai woman with guy who is Asian.

 

Pay just a little bit of attention when you're out and about, such as eating in a restaurant. When the Thai woman puts down her phone and stops watching TikTok videos, note what language the "couple" speaks. It's not Thai.

 

The gender problem in countries like China and South Korea has left males in great surplus.  Males from those countries are not going to find a prom date back home. When you see groups of East Asian men strolling down Sukhumvit heading to Nana or Soi Cowboy, they aren't just looking for a little fun for the night, but will eventually go back home to find a "good woman". There are no women for them back home. Males are in great surplus.

 

Even Japan has a bit of this problem, though the genders are more equal in number. Japanese women do not seem to want relationships, as far too often the traditional deal is "bath-meal-sleep", where the female is pretty much a slave. Thus, plenty of Japanese men have Thai girlfriends.

 

I couldn't tell you if these Asian guys are sociopaths or narcissists; I think many are just lonely or horny or whatever it is that prompts them to meet Thai women. Now it is often said no decent Thai woman will tie up with a foreigner (not sure that is true in 2025), but from what I observe in these "Asian" couples, the Thai women may well have been met while working in a bar or agogo.

 

I'll add that the concept of a "decent" woman has also changed. Go to a club like Sugar or Levels, and one can find Thai office women or nurses or accountants....and they are not looking for money. Many are looking for a partner for the night or one that might turn into something longer term. Also, so-called normal Thai women working in everything from dentists' offices to clothing stores will come on to a patient or customer they find appealing. People of all stripes seek relationships, and whatever the "rules" might have been a decade or two ago have been rewritten.

 

Now I'm sure all the guys here who married a Thai woman married someone pure as the driven snow, so it might come as a surprise that the virgin demographic is a lot smaller than it used to be. Some women had sex for money, while others had sex because they were horny. Not sure if there's any difference or moral high ground, but those two motivations now capture a very high percent of marrying-age Thai females. Women across the world, not only in Thailand, feel a new sexual freedom. I would guess that bothers insecure males, who deep down fear their woman might have been schtupped better by another guy.

 

So the issue the OP raised is a lot larger than his post suggests and has a lot more variables (though I suspect the OP's intent was just to have some fun). I suspect his post would have made sense 20-30 years ago, but today it might only capture a tiny percentage of relationships. The old guys on this site might be unaware the world has changed.

32 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

A very hollow feeling much like sex with a prostitute.

Seriously? You just admitted to be a rapist on an open forum. How far has it gone? Beyond help?

I'd like to try some of the stuff this guy is smoking, seems to be working for him to come up with

these sorts of topics.

13 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

And the normal people just settle with normal women with normal jobs.

 

You are being too judgmental about girls working in bars and too idealistic about girls not working in bars. 

 

I dated a "normal woman with a normal job". She made me take her to the most expensive seafood restaurant. I don't mind paying for a good restaurant, but I didn't like her attitude at all. She had this attitude of entitlement, like she barely appreciated it.   

 

Once I bought a street dish for a girl working in a bar that cost me 100 Baht, which is not much. But there was appreciation on her face that indicated to me that she was a nice decent person. In fact, she even tried to save me 30-40 Baht by suggesting 7-11 sold the same dish for cheaper. 

 

There is no such thing as "normal". Or good luck defining it. 

 

 

12 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I am not queer.

 

But my boyfriend is.

 

Hello faggot lovers everywhere !