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Should immigration know where your money originates as income?

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4 hours ago, Liquorice said:

My guess is that he wasn't asked for any evidence of where the income was derived from for his extension application.

That I can't answer, but I can't see what difference that makes. There is nothing in the immigration act stating that this is not within their requirements.

 

I am myself going the same route, changing from money in bank to income method next year. That is why I wanted this clarified, and went to the horse's mouth to know what is accepted or not. There are too many conflicting messages around, yours as well. I got my own confirmation first from the manager at the main BBL branch in Pattaya, and then from the immigration officer when I just did my 90 day report. Both said the same thing. A pension is only one of several income sources they accept. 

So the text at their own website, is spot on and correct.

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6 hours ago, thaibreaker said:

A pension is only one of several income sources they accept. 

So the text at their own website, is spot on and correct.

I don't think they really care, as long as it comes from abroad, and has traceable credit advice.

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

I don't think they really care, as long as it comes from abroad, and has traceable credit advice.

That's exactly how it should be however some immigration offices (especially in Hicksville) are captivated by the word "Pension" 

The same as a member posted earlier for his extension last week at CW he had a "kitchen sink" folder. 

That had various back up proof of source of income. 

Was not required.. 

I will also have a folder with eg Interest from super fund (big bucks), 

Rentals, etc. Monthly transfers statement from super to my Oz bank etc

Fact is it shouldn't be required. 

The immigration staff wouldn't know what they are looking at and perhaps that's why some want a simple pension statement with a monthly amount more than 65k 

 

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10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

That's exactly how it should be however some immigration offices (especially in Hicksville) are captivated by the word "Pension" 

The same as a member posted earlier for his extension last week at CW he had a "kitchen sink" folder. 

That had various back up proof of source of income. 

Was not required.. 

I will also have a folder with eg Interest from super fund (big bucks), 

Rentals, etc. Monthly transfers statement from super to my Oz bank etc

Fact is it shouldn't be required. 

The immigration staff wouldn't know what they are looking at and perhaps that's why some want a simple pension statement with a monthly amount more than 65k 

 

I took my Soc Sec 1099 with me last time, and asked if I could simply use that, as 'income letter', and he looked at, understood what it was, official govt statement, and where came from, but, he said no (Hua Hin).   Said just needs credit advice stating from abroad.  Not caring where it comes from, as long not working here, unless w/work permit.

 

As it should be, that we aren't taking jobs for Thais.  No problem with that, as all countries should protect their citizens.

15 hours ago, Dan O said:

Exactly  its all a nuisance but hey its their game so you play their rules 

Quite. Not a great deal of point going into the ins and outs when there is such variable interpretation.

I have done income for both marriage and retirement and the retirement attracted a great deal more scrutiny than marriage. It has been the same woman doing marriage for more than 10 years that I know of but the other IOs seem to  move around the other desks like musical  chairs, hardly consistant with consistancy.

12 hours ago, thaibreaker said:

There is nothing in the immigration act stating that this is not within their requirements.

The financial requirements aren't in the Immigration Act, they are in Immigration Orders.

 

12 hours ago, thaibreaker said:

A pension is only one of several income sources they accept. 

As previously stated and agreed, as per Immigration orders:
3. Evidence of income such as a retirement pension, interest or dividends; and/or

 

Immigration Order 138/2557 > Documents.

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If changing from 'funds' to 'income', presumably you are aware you will have to provide evidence of meeting the financial requirements for your current extension, and evidence of meeting the financial requirements for the next extension.

 

26 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

The financial requirements aren't in the Immigration Act, they are in Immigration Orders.

 

As previously stated and agreed, as per Immigration orders:
3. Evidence of income such as a retirement pension, interest or dividends; and/or

 

Immigration Order 138/2557 > Documents.

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If changing from 'funds' to 'income', presumably you are aware you will have to provide evidence of meeting the financial requirements for your current extension, and evidence of meeting the financial requirements for the next extension.

 

This link has been posted here 5-6 times already. That's what I am stating. In your first post you stated that the income method had to come from a pension. That's what I corrected from your post.

 

I'm glad we agree now, although correcting me for my use of immigration act, instead of immigration order, is just over the top in my book. Unnecessary, but if you feel better by it, that's fine.

Have a great day.

I believe you are referring to my post (which you quoted) in reply to DrJack54 question, which was very specific about using a 'pension' as proof of income.
In reply to another member, I also stated;

 

On 9/11/2025 at 12:55 PM, Liquorice said:

Document checklist states;

3. Evidence of income such as a retirement pension, interest or dividends; and/or

 

1 hour ago, thaibreaker said:

I'm glad we agree now, although correcting me for my use of immigration act, instead of immigration order, is just over the top in my book.

Apologies if you feel that comment was pedantic, but for all I know you may have believed the financial requirements were in the Immigration Act, and/or unaware of the separate Immigration Orders.

11 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

I believe you are referring to my post (which you quoted) in reply to DrJack54 question, which was very specific about using a 'pension' as proof of income.
In reply to another member, I also stated;

 

 

Apologies if you feel that comment was pedantic, but for all I know you may have believed the financial requirements were in the Immigration Act, and/or unaware of the separate Immigration Orders.

No worries. We agree, and that's the main thing. 

Since I retired in Thailand this time, I'm just happy here, and feel privileged to be able to live here full time. I know I did the right choice. This is by far the best country in SEA for me. I'll let others complain, no one will hear any of that from me 😆

Cheers, Licuorice 🙏

On 9/11/2025 at 1:01 PM, NanLaew said:

To qualify for a UK pension, you need to be 66, rising to 67 and eventually 68 depending on your date of birth.

 

Hence the quandary for some of those in the 'in-between years' who are seeking a retirement extension at an immigration office that insists on proof that the funds from oversees are specifically from a pension.

 

UK private pensions can be accessed from age 55 so could satisfy the IO's requirements if required, although from other posts it's not required to show as such.

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