1 minute ago, bannork said:

Daddy loves Russia, loves Putin. 

Putin bombs apartment blocks, kills children and innocent civilians, and what does Daddy do?

'I'll........I'll.......in 20 days/ 50 days....(.whenever). I'm very disappointed in Putin' ( nobody else is because they realised long ago he's a heartless killer only interested in might)

Daddy is very tired these days.

The daddy is the USA.   Who has defended Europe since the end of WW2.    You need daddy to do what the little kids of Europe can’t do. 

12 hours ago, Hummin said:

And when their secret service protection is removed by someone who have the power to do it, because they are the presidents opponents or critics, you can go figure how this influence their lives being in opposition 

 

Is politics any different than religion?

 

Or alcohol? Politics seems to bring out people's repressed anger and frustrations just like a night out drinking.

 

In 15 years, maybe the govt will be run by AI .... then if you don't like what AI is doing, who will you gun down? The programmers? The guy who invented the Turing test?

 

Trick questions. Don't answer.

 

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You will see as certain as Amen in Church, the killer will be a leftist extremist.

 

Only one person can hate Charlie Kirk enough to kill him - a leftist.

Don't count out a MAGA nutjob with a gun that got insulted by Kirk on Trumps behalf. A real left wing assassin would take out Miller, DeSantis or Abbott. 

2 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

The daddy is the USA.   Who has defended Europe since the end of WW2.    You need daddy to do what the little kids of Europe can’t do. 

daddy has left the kids so we don't need him anymore. It's true it will take us time to build up our defences against Putin but we will do it.

In fact, the rest of the world doesn't need him anymore, Donald no mates Trump. 

New trading alliances being formed, China's soft power expanding.

USA first, and consequently alone.

 

1 minute ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Don't count out a MAGA nutjob with a gun that got insulted by Kirk on Trumps behalf. A real left wing assassin would take out Miller, DeSantis or Abbott. 

 

Why would a MAGA supporter kill a man, who was reponsible for bringing hundreds of thousands of young people into the MAGA fold? Who was a clear supporter of Trump?

 

It just doesn't  make any sense. If we look at past high profile assassinations, such as the one of Martin Luther King, he was killed by a white guy who hated the civil rights movement. It will be the same here, someone who hated Kirk's movement would have enough hatred to kill him. That means a leftie, not a MAGA supporter.

 

Kirk had a lot of enemies, he was very outspoken, and the people he offended, again and gain, without a fail, were all extremist lefties. Whichever leftist imbecile did this made a huge mistake. Not only will he spend the rest of his pointless life in jail, but now Trump will take on ANTIFA in the US and the extreme left wil have no place to hide.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Why would a MAGA supporter kill a man, who was reponsible for bringing hundreds of thousands of young people into the MAGA fold? Who was a clear supporter of Trump?

 

It just doesn't  make any sense. If we look at past high profile assassinations, such as the one of Martin Luther King, he was killed by a white guy who hated the civil rights movement. It will be the same here, someone who hated Kirk's movement would have enough hatred to kill him. That means a leftie, not a MAGA supporter.

 

Kirk had a lot of enemies, he was very outspoken, and the people he offended, again and gain, without a fail, were all extremist lefties. Whichever leftist imbecile did this made a huge mistake. Not only will he spend the rest of his pointless life in jail, but now Trump will take on ANTIFA in the US and the extreme left wil have no place to hide.

He wouln't stop going on about Epstein and now he is dead. 

 

12 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Is politics any different than religion?

 

Or alcohol? Politics seems to bring out people's repressed anger and frustrations just like a night out drinking.

 

In 15 years, maybe the govt will be run by AI .... then if you don't like what AI is doing, who will you gun down? The programmers? The guy who invented the Turing test?

 

Trick questions. Don't answer.

 

Religion is a political tool, a tool for the masses to pull in same direction, and not based on science or logic, can be for the good, and for the bad. Burning witches is back on the agenda, just as anytime in history 

The shooter was caught on film:

 

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He wouln't stop going on about Epstein and now he is dead. 

 

 

Lol, it has nothing to do with Epstein, good God.

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Religion is a political tool, a tool for the masses to pull in same direction, and not based on science or logic, can be for the good, and for the bad. Burning witches is back on the agenda, just as anytime in history 

The left has replaced religion with politics.  

Just now, Mike_Hunt said:

The left has replaced religion with politics.  

Ain't you guys getting tired of the same stupid rethoric over and over again and again. It becomes kind of manic and mental after awhile.

 

Left is not the problem, extremism is the problem, and it exists in both ends, and it is mental extremism 

11 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

The left has replaced religion with politics.  

 

I never heard of this charlie guy, but someone earlier in the thread mentioned sth about "he was preaching Biblical values".  whatever that means.

 

 

Just now, Hummin said:

Ain't you guys getting tired of the same stupid rethoric over and over again and again. It becomes kind of manic and mental after awhile.

 

Left is not the problem, extremism is the problem, and it exists in both ends, and it is mental extremism 

In general the right believes in GOD.   The does left does not.   Thus, the left has replaced religion with politics. 

 

It’s weird that you are so triggered with valid observations. 

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Ain't you guys getting tired of the same stupid rethoric over and over again and again. It becomes kind of manic and mental after awhile.

 

Left is not the problem, extremism is the problem, and it exists in both ends, and it is mental extremism 

Lefty extremists killed 100m last century

4 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

He wouln't stop going on about Epstein and now he is dead. 

 

holy molly

I read The word on the streets is Donald J Trump had this done so all eyes will be off him and focus more on this killing and say the radical left is the cause.. knowing it will cause even more violence so he is safe out of the picture.. everyone with common sense can see this.

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

I never heard of this charlie guy, but someone earlier in the thread mentioned sth about "he was preaching Biblical values".  whatever that means.

 

 

 

I never followed Charlie Kirk.  I don’t know all the much about what he talked about, other than his YouTube shorts of him engaging college kids in discussion. 

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

Left is not the problem, extremism is the problem, and it exists in both ends, and it is mental extremism 

 

It's a vicious cycle. One side attacks the other and the other gets even more entrenched in their position just not to lose face and to protect their egos .... it's insane .... all rationality is lost and no one even cares if the president is doing sth positive ... it's about being right, dogma ... no one can be objective about anything anymore ... ie like religion. 

 

3 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

In general the right believes in GOD.   The does left does not.   Thus, the left has replaced religion with politics. 

 

It’s weird that you are so triggered with valid observations. 

And you are wrong, do you have any statistics about which camp is more religious than the other? Yes the rightwing is more biblical conservative, but faith in god ? Many rightwing call themselves Christian, but truly Trump is an good example of a good Christian, ain’t he 😄 

 

Monthy python at its best

42 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

We will all see when the FBI get the suspect, and they will, that he will be a leftist sympathiser.

 

There's absolutely no question about it.

There’s at least two questions.

 

1. Will the FBI catch the killer?

2. Does the killer have any political affiliation?

 

5 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Lefty extremists killed 100m last century

Okay, so the last 70 years of wars post WW2 was all lefty wars. Get real and get your facts right

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

In general the right believes in GOD.   The does left does not.   Thus, the left has replaced religion with politics. 

 

It’s weird that you are so triggered with valid observations. 

So the right are going for blind faith whilst the left, having given that up, are trying to make life meaningful via human constructions devoid of any reference to greater deities.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There’s at least two questions.

 

1. Will the FBI catch the killer?

2. Dies the killer have any political affiliation?

 

 

Lol, you think the person who went to all the trouble to kill one of the most prominent political voices in America had no political affiliation? I do wonder sometimes about you, Chomps.

 

Of course the FBI will catch the killer. Even if it takes 2 months. :In the end, they will catch him. He was caught on camera. There were witnesses. They'll get him.

Just now, Hummin said:

And you are wrong, do you have any statistics about which camp is more religious than the other? Yes the rightwing is more biblical conservative, but faith in god ? Many rightwing call themselves Christian, but truly Trump is an good example of a good Christian, ain’t he 😄 

 

Monthy python at its best

 

You are unarmed in this discussion. 

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/religion-partisanship-and-ideology/#:~:text=The religious profiles of U.S.,wide as among White Americans.

 

Generally speaking, Americans who are highly religious are the most solidly Republican constituency. U.S. adults with lower levels of religious engagement more commonly identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party.⁶⁶

5 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

I never followed Charlie Kirk.  I don’t know all the much about what he talked about, other than his YouTube shorts of him engaging college kids in discussion. 

To assist here is Mike Johnson a friend speaking. The Speaker includes what to me is the most important thought in this clip

We need to turn down the heat

 

 

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

And you are wrong, do you have any statistics about which camp is more religious than the other? Yes the rightwing is more biblical conservative, but faith in god ? Many rightwing call themselves Christian, but truly Trump is an good example of a good Christian, ain’t he 😄 

 

Monthy python at its best

The left wrestling with human rights

 

1 minute ago, sharot724 said:

To assist here is Mike Johnson a friend speaking. The Speaker includes what to me is the most important thought in this clip

We need to turn down the heat

 

 

 

Nice sentiments, but unlikely in the current political climate.

10 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Okay, so the last 70 years of wars post WW2 was all lefty wars. Get real and get your facts right

The Black Book of Communism, edited by Stéphane Courtois. This work estimates approximately 100 million deaths attributed to communist regimes, citing events such as famines, forced labor, purges, and political repression across the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, and other nations. The book argues that these deaths resulted from the systemic practices of communist states, including the Holodomor in Ukraine, the Great Leap Forward in China, and the policies of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Lol, you think the person who went to all the trouble to kill one of the most prominent political voices in America had no political affiliation? I do wonder sometimes about you, Chomps.

 

Of course the FBI will catch the killer. Even if it takes 2 months. :In the end, they will catch him. He was caught on camera. There were witnesses. They'll get him.

Unlike you I’m not going to assume a motive or any affiliation of the killer.

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

The left wrestling with human rights

 

 

To think all this came true in our time.

 

It's not just Sci-fi that predicts, comedy too.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Police snipers aim for the head. Military snipers ALWAYS aim for the chest.

 

 

Not always. Based upon Rule of Engagement.  Mission objectives and threat conditions. etc. In my years as a police officer I have spoken to many snipers on SWAT teams. 

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

The Black Book of Communism, edited by Stéphane Courtois. This work estimates approximately 100 million deaths attributed to communist regimes, citing events such as famines, forced labor, purges, and political repression across the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, and other nations. The book argues that these deaths resulted from the systemic practices of communist states, including the Holodomor in Ukraine, the Great Leap Forward in China, and the policies of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.

Which has nothing at all to do with the killing in Utah. What a load of utter nonsense.