On 9/10/2025 at 10:19 PM, riclag said:

I watched & followed him for years . He was a messenger of traditional values.

Evil came on campus to try to take out another popular surrogate of the Republic. 

 

If you mean delusional conspiracy theories and racism by traditional values, then yes, he was a beacon! 

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Blacks have the same chances?

He was killed because he was a Trump supporter?

He was mentally ill?

 

How do you know all this?

Like I said, there are reasons he killed this man, and I mentioned them. There might be more. And yes, blacks do have the same chances in life in America than anyone else, and in some cases, more. 

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

l often wish I didn't follow the news, as I might be more inclined to believe obvious bs from the right.  As it is, no person on the left has come out and applauded the murder of Charlie Kirk. Seems to be that this is seen by many on the right as a good excuse to start more violence. Meanwhile, Trump stays at his dinner table at Joe's Crab House while Putin takes experimental aim at Poland. Far far more important than anything Mr. Kirk ever said or represented. 

Maybe you should follow the news:

 

 

Just now, fredwiggy said:

No one here knows why he killed him, yet, so we can only go by what evidence there is now. How this person thinks is unknown, or if he was working alone, was paid, or was just a nut trying to make the other side look bad by planting things for others to find. This was obviously planned, and if he left the gun, he surely knew they would use that against him eventually, along with anything else he left. It could have been a last minute thing, where he luckily got away with being on that roof without being seen, and after he ran, left the gun and panicked because he didn't want to be caught with that evidence. Was there serial numbers on the gun? many questions not answered . Yet.

 

If you want to escape a shooting undetected it's probably best not to be carrying a massive rifle on your shoulder. 

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

No one here knows why he killed him, yet, so we can only go by what evidence there is now. How this person thinks is unknown, or if he was working alone, was paid, or was just a nut trying to make the other side look bad by planting things for others to find. This was obviously planned, and if he left the gun, he surely knew they would use that against him eventually, along with anything else he left. It could have been a last minute thing, where he luckily got away with being on that roof without being seen, and after he ran, left the gun and panicked because he didn't want to be caught with that evidence. Was there serial numbers on the gun? many questions not answered . Yet.

 

No, it's not "unknown" how this person thinks. We know he hated Charlie Kirk, enough to go to the trouble of killing him. Who would hate a right wing influencer? A left wing extremist.

 

We know he left bullets on which he had written ANTIFA and LGBT messages, so we know he supports ANTIFA and LGBT.

 

FBI profilers, who worked on the Unabomber case have said he most likely was obsessed with Kirk.

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

Yes it is possible. Unlikely but possible. 

 

But you are claiming this guy was so good that he couldn't possibly leave evidence behind by accident. 

 

At the same time, you are saying the bullet actually hit the bullet proof vest and it was a sheer fluke that it ricoched up to the neck. 

 

Make your mind up. 

 

So you are saying bullets can deflect/ricochet? ...............make up your mind.

 

Where do I say he was so good he might not leave evidence? I just intimated that having seemingly planned everything in detail it is odd to leave such blatant evidence.

 

I never said the the bullet hit the vest and ricocheted......I just pointed out that is something people are reporting.

 

Neither do I know the bullet struck his neck first.

 

Just because you were so wrong about the bullet deflecting doesn't mean you can start accusing me of stating this that or the other.

 

You were wrong......just accept it, learn and move on.

2 minutes ago, b17 said:

As it is, no person on the left has come out and applauded the murder of Charlie Kirk.

 

"It's such a disgusting thing to say, which shows a nasty side I didn't know she had," said McGowan.

"The comment has sparked outrage with many residents calling out her lack of humanity."

The BBC has attempted to contact Wild, who previously represented Labour.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpd9x78qvv5o

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Like I said, there are reasons he killed this man, and I mentioned them. There might be more. And yes, blacks do have the same chances in life in America than anyone else, and in some cases, more. 

 

 

So you have no concept or understanding of institutional racism and its impact on peoples lives?

 

 

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

If you want to escape a shooting undetected it's probably best not to be carrying a massive rifle on your shoulder. 

Yes, he could have left the gun, without serial numbers, using gloves so not to leave prints, but there is also that he did all of this for a reason. Why would he leave any evidence about anything, unless he was an amateur that just got lucky in the shot, whereas Trump's shooter was not a good shot, or also a beginner that choked because he never shot at a human before?  Was Trump's assassin paid, seeing he got so close with a rifle? Was this one paid to leave evidence? Will he disappear because of this? All of this is conjecture until we know the facts, if they ever come out.

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

I just intimated that having seemingly planned everything in detail it is odd to leave such blatant evidence.

 

Hardly odd, he was an amateur assassin who wanted to run away as fast as he could so he was not caught by police. He'd just killed someone high profile. Of course he's rushing away,.

 

Stop posting nonsense, Will.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, it's not "unknown" how this person thinks. We know he hated Charlie Kirk, enough to go to the trouble of killing him. Who would hate a right wing influencer? A left wing extremist.

 

We know he left bullets on which he had written ANTIFA and LGBT messages, so we know he supports ANTIFA and LGBT.

 

FBI profilers, who worked on the Unabomber case have said he most likely was obsessed with Kirk.

How would you know what an assassin thinks if they're paid to do a job? Why would he leave that ammo behind, unless he was making a point? Was he acting alone and just obsessed or did he just pick another Trump supporter because he saw that Trump almost got shot and now knows security will be nearly impossible to overcome? He could also just be mentally ill, and wanted to kill someone famous, maybe because he disliked him or just because.

7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

If you want to escape a shooting undetected it's probably best not to be carrying a massive rifle on your shoulder. 

 

He took the gun with him before dumping it in the woods at the back of one of the University buildings.

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

So you are saying bullets can deflect/ricochet? ...............make up your mind.

 

Where do I say he was so good he might not leave evidence? I just intimated that having seemingly planned everything in detail it is odd to leave such blatant evidence.

 

I never said the the bullet hit the vest and ricocheted......I just pointed out that is something people are reporting.

 

Neither do I know the bullet struck his neck first.

 

Just because you were so wrong about the bullet deflecting doesn't mean you can start accusing me of stating this that or the other.

 

You were wrong......just accept it, learn and move on.

 

I didn't say it was impossible. Unlikely. 

 

Your theory [drumroll] - The far right expert assassin who deliberately left LGBT inscribed casings behind to fool everyone about why he shot a conservative, was such an expert that he would NEVER leave evidence accidentally, was such an expert that he needed a lucky deflection from a bullet proof vest to get the job done.

 

Ok Bro - got it. 😆 

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

I didn't say it was impossible. Unlikely. 

 

Your theory [drumroll] - The far right expert assassin who deliberately left LGBT inscribed casings behind to fool everyone about why he shot a conservative, was such an expert that he would NEVER leave evidence accidentally, was such an expert that he needed a lucky deflection from a bullet proof vest to get the job done.

 

Ok Bro - got it. 😆 

 

 

What on Earth are you rambling on about?

 

Seriously, if it's your time of the month don't post......leave it a week.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

So you have no concept or understanding of institutional racism and its impact on peoples lives?

 

 

Please edumacate me on institutional racism, oh wise one.

Just now, fredwiggy said:

How would you know what an assassin thinks if they're paid to do a job?

 

Sorry, where is your evidence he was "PAID" to do a job? You have none, right? Zero?

 

So let's just go on what evidence we have, shall we?

 

We have bullets with ANTIFA and LGBT messages.

 

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Why would he leave that ammo behind, unless he was making a point?

 

Oh I don't know, perhaps because he'd just killed someone and was trying to get away in a mad rush?

 

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

He could also just be mentally ill, and wanted to kill someone famous, maybe because he disliked him or just because.

 

Well, the evidence of the bullets with the ANTIFA and LGBT messages gives you all the info you need about his motivation.

36 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Please stop your ludicrous obfuscation.

 

The perrpetrator is very clearly an ANTIFA and LGBT supporter of the left.

 

There's absolutely no doubt about this.

And there's absolutely no proof of this.  Why not just wait until the perpetrator is caught?  Or do you just like stirring up hate?

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, he could have left the gun, without serial numbers, using gloves so not to leave prints, but there is also that he did all of this for a reason. Why would he leave any evidence about anything, unless he was an amateur that just got lucky in the shot, whereas Trump's shooter was not a good shot, or also a beginner that choked because he never shot at a human before?  Was Trump's assassin paid, seeing he got so close with a rifle? Was this one paid to leave evidence? Will he disappear because of this? All of this is conjecture until we know the facts, if they ever come out.

 

Quite the story teller. 😃

 

It's obvious he was a far left extremist who disposed of the gun in the woods as he fled the scene.

 

They'll catch him soon and then you can drop all this nonsense. 

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I didn't say it was impossible. Unlikely. 

 

Your theory [drumroll] - The far right expert assassin who deliberately left LGBT inscribed casings behind to fool everyone about why he shot a conservative, was such an expert that he would NEVER leave evidence accidentally, was such an expert that he needed a lucky deflection from a bullet proof vest to get the job done.

 

Ok Bro - got it. 😆 

 

 

"Bullet proof vests do not "deflect" bullets".

 

No I'm really confused.

 

They do not or it's unlikely......make up your mind!

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

And there's absolutely no proof of this. 

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

What on Earth are you rambling on about?

 

Seriously, if it's your time of the month don't post......leave it a week.

 

 

 

Men don't have periods.

 

Please don't have me whacked for saying that. 

Just now, Cameroni said:

That's not proof and no one has been caught or charged.  Would it hurt to wait?

5 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

So you have no concept or understanding of institutional racism and its impact on peoples lives?

 

 

Of course I do. I didn't hide in the basement growing up. I also know that blacks were suppressed in earlier times, but because of that they have more than an even chance of getting ahead now, as long as they meet the same criteria the jobs need. Everything that a child does has it's origins in the household, especially from age 0-5, and further enhanced the years afterward. Everything a person does involves their choices, and there are no excuses for breaking laws, especially those you can put on others. Listen to the video and tell me why you disagree with what he's said. Pointing out what is, isn't racism. You don't put black people in jail unless they break the law. The same goes for anyone.

16 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

So you have no concept or understanding of institutional racism and its impact on peoples lives?

 

If you want to know all about institutional racism in the USA (or lack thereof) listen to Thomas Sowell.

 

If you also want a good chuckle, listen to the Hodge Twins.

 

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Of course I do. I didn't hide in the basement growing up. I also know that blacks were suppressed in earlier times, but because of that they have more than an even chance of getting ahead now, as long as they meet the same criteria the jobs need. Everything that a child does has it's origins in the household, especially from age 0-5, and further enhanced the years afterward. Everything a person does involves their choices, and there are no excuses for breaking laws, especially those you can put on others. Listen to the video and tell me why you disagree with what he's said. Pointing out what is, isn't racism. You don't put black people in jail unless they break the law. The same goes for anyone.

So, you DON'T understand institutional racism. Got it.

5 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

That's not proof and no one has been caught or charged.  Would it hurt to wait?

 

Yes it is proof. It is very clear evidence that the killer is an ANTIFA and LGBT supporter.

 

It's called evidence. And there's no need to wait to interpret this evidence, because we have already been told this is what was found.

 

Or why do you think a killer would put messages on his bullets that reflect ANTIFA and LGBT ideology?

 

Are you perchance of the Will B Good mold, that you believe this is a giant conspiracy by the Proud Boys using false flag evidence? Come on, man.

11 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

So you have no concept or understanding of institutional racism and its impact on peoples lives?

 

 

 

Yes DEI is very damaging for white people. Missing out on college places, jobs, opportunities etc. because of the colour of their skin. 

 

Thankfully Trump is removing this left wing racist policy. 

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

Yes DEI is very damaging for white people. Missing out on college places, jobs, opportunities etc. because of the colour of their skin. 

 

Thankfully Trump is removing this left wing racist policy. 

 

 

Whilst constantly oppressing recognisable minorities, which inevitably leads to the social problems plaguing nations like the US......pure genius.

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Whilst constantly oppressing recognisable minorities, which inevitably leads to the social problems plaguing nations like the US......pure genius.

 

That's not it, it's their elevated testosterone levels.

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

Maybe "White Dudes for Harris" do.😆

 

I don't. 

 

Back on topic, why did your far right, leftist impersonating, expert assassin choose to deflect the bullet from the vest instead of going directly for the headshot? 

 

 

Again.....what are you rambling on about?