9 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

You can't see gravity.

It isn't real.

Nobody has ever produced a cup of gravity.

 

It's only a theory.

 

Like germs.

The 'Germ Theory' is just that; a theory.

 

Good health is so simple. The white-coats are making it more complicated as we go.

 

Go Kennedy go!

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

No vax has ever saved a life. Anywhere, any time. However, they have caused suffering and death to millions down the years.

 

Vaccines were developed because of the mysterious virus. That has never been found to exist outside of a computer programme.

 

The people of the world need truth. Perhaps more than ever before. We must discard apathy and ignorance, and return to our roots. We are the many; they the few.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

Yeah, I agree they need the truth, but just not your truth, because it´s flawed and biased.

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The 'Germ Theory' is just that; a theory.

 

Good health is so simple. The white-coats are making it more complicated as we go.

 

Go Kennedy go!

 

As expected..."it's only a theory."

 

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of an aspect of the natural world that is based on a body of facts and has been repeatedly tested through observation and experimentation. Unlike a guess, a theory organizes and explains multiple observations and can make predictions that can be confirmed or refuted.

 

 

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

- Rattlesnake - Do you believe viruses exist ? Yes or No.

 

As is often the case, the answer isn't really a simple 'yes' or 'no'.

 

I know, because it is factual, that several theories have existed to explain pathogen transmissibility between humans, one of them being germs, others being parasites and/or bacteria.

 

The germ and subsequent vaccination paradigm has been the bedrock of an industry worth hundreds of billions of dollars.

 

I believe that the pharmaceutical industry should be State-owned and not driven by profit. As long as it is privately owned, that means it is subjected to the basic rules of trade, namely creating and maintaining demand. Nothing a representative of the pharmaceutical industry says or does is worthy of trust, because they are ultimately driven by profit.

 

Add to that empirical evidence, i.e. what is actually observable and measurable through experience: I never took any Covid shot, nor did my wife and son, and we never caught Covid despite leading pretty normal lives between 2020 and 2022, including international travel. I know several people who are in the same case. Remember that the media and politicians assured us that we would regret not taking the shot because it was tantamount to certain death. This was false, they lied and that matters. What is the reason for that lie? Delve into the contracts between the pharmaceutical industry and Ursula von der Leyen, who is mentioned in the video in the OP, and there is your answer, or at least part of it.

49 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

As expected..."it's only a theory."

 

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of an aspect of the natural world that is based on a body of facts and has been repeatedly tested through observation and experimentation. Unlike a guess, a theory organizes and explains multiple observations and can make predictions that can be confirmed or refuted.

 

 

 

Newton, Darwin and Copernicus doubted their own theories, what does that tell you?

14 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Newton, Darwin and Copernicus doubted their own theories, what does that tell you?

 

They should have consulted a chiropractor?

....or an English literature philosopher?

....or some rando with brain worms?

 

 

3 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

They should have consulted a chiropractor?

....or an English literature philosopher?

....or some rando with brain worms?

 

 

 

 

Astute as ever, NDN.

 

2 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Yeah, I agree they need the truth, but just not your truth, because it´s flawed and biased.

 

My truth message is flawed and biased! Why? What do you not agree with?

 

Please explain to the masses Sir. I've got my reputation to upkeep. Never heard anything like it.

Naomi Rebekah Wolf (born 1962) is an American feminist author, journalist, and conspiracy theorist.

3 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Naomi Rebekah Wolf (born 1962) is an American feminist author, journalist, and conspiracy theorist.

She knows her stuff.

 

Shoot the messenger; why don't you.

FACTS:

 

Findings from the Pfizer COVID vaccine report:

 

- Massive menstrual disruption: 15,000 women bleeding daily, 10,000 with two periods a month, 7,500 rendered infertile.

- Extreme cases: 10-year-old girls and 85-year-old women bleeding post-injection.

- Catastrophic outcomes for nursing babies: vomiting, edema, fever, "failure to thrive," and being inconsolable.

- The death of an infant from multi-organ failure after nursing from a vaccinated mother.

- 2 in-utero deaths attributed by Pfizer to "maternal exposure to the vaccine."

 

The report indicates Pfizer knew the vaccine's components could circulate into breastmilk.

 

Three days after receiving the report, Dr. Walensky publicly assured the nation there was "no bad time" to get the COVID mRNA shot, including during pregnancy or postpartum.

 

29 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

She knows her stuff.

 

Shoot the messenger; why don't you.

I don't like shooting messengers or like you claiming "she knows her stuff" – the fact is she has been found over the years to publish misinformation and falese information. 

THe skill is to understand a source and toy know where they are coming from - 

48 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

FACTS:

 

Findings from the Pfizer COVID vaccine report:

 

- Massive menstrual disruption: 15,000 women bleeding daily, 10,000 with two periods a month, 7,500 rendered infertile.

- Extreme cases: 10-year-old girls and 85-year-old women bleeding post-injection.

- Catastrophic outcomes for nursing babies: vomiting, edema, fever, "failure to thrive," and being inconsolable.

- The death of an infant from multi-organ failure after nursing from a vaccinated mother.

- 2 in-utero deaths attributed by Pfizer to "maternal exposure to the vaccine."

 

The report indicates Pfizer knew the vaccine's components could circulate into breastmilk.

 

Three days after receiving the report, Dr. Walensky publicly assured the nation there was "no bad time" to get the COVID mRNA shot, including during pregnancy or postpartum.

 

 

Whenever someone starts a post with the word "facts" - you know that they are not up to the job intellectually..

Those “Pfizer findings” being circulated aren’t what the documents actually show. They’re cherry-picked from unverified safety reports, which regulators stress do not prove causation.
•    Menstrual changes after vaccination have been studied: they can happen, but are usually mild and temporary. Large studies show no link to infertility.
•    Claims about 10-year-olds, 85-year-olds, or infant deaths are taken from raw reports where anyone can file an entry. These don’t mean the vaccine caused the event.
•    Major reviews (CDC, EMA, peer-reviewed studies) find no increased risk of miscarriage, stillbirth, or harm to breastfeeding babies.
Bottom line: the bullet points being shared are misleading misreadings of safety reports, not established facts. The scientific consensus remains that COVID vaccines are safe, including in pregnancy and breastfeeding, and much safer than the risks of catching COVID itself.
 

1 minute ago, kwilco said:

 

 

Whenever someone starts a post with the word "facts" - you know that they are not up to the job intellectually..

Those “Pfizer findings” being circulated aren’t what the documents actually show. They’re cherry-picked from unverified safety reports, which regulators stress do not prove causation.
•    Menstrual changes after vaccination have been studied: they can happen, but are usually mild and temporary. Large studies show no link to infertility.
•    Claims about 10-year-olds, 85-year-olds, or infant deaths are taken from raw reports where anyone can file an entry. These don’t mean the vaccine caused the event.
•    Major reviews (CDC, EMA, peer-reviewed studies) find no increased risk of miscarriage, stillbirth, or harm to breastfeeding babies.
Bottom line: the bullet points being shared are misleading misreadings of safety reports, not established facts. The scientific consensus remains that COVID vaccines are safe, including in pregnancy and breastfeeding, and much safer than the risks of catching COVID itself.
 

Thank you for your input, kwilco.

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

and conspiracy theorist

 

[Shudder]

13 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Whenever someone starts a post with the word "facts" - you know that they are not up to the job intellectually..

  

33 minutes ago, kwilco said:

I don't like shooting messengers or like you claiming "she knows her stuff" – the fact is she has been found over the years to publish misinformation and falese information. 

THe skill is to understand a source and toy know where they are coming from - 

 

It is well established that you are the adult in the room, and your diction needs to reflect that.

 

The next step for you would probably be to invest in a decent spellchecker. It would be a worthwhile endeavour, as your delivery could then be as compelling as your insights.

 

I mean think about it, you wouldn't want people to doubt your self-proclaimed superior education, just because of something as trivial as not being able to write a basic sentence, would you?

6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

it’s about preventing demonstrably baseless claims from misleading people who don’t know better.

 

Does this apply to Fauci, the media, and the governments that lied about the vax?

You do remember they lied, correct?  Or do you need a history lesson already?

And yes, I do believe viruses exist.

4 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

- Rattlesnake - Do you believe viruses exist ? Yes or No.

 

As is often the case, the answer isn't really a simple 'yes' or 'no'.

 

I know, because it is factual, that several theories have existed to explain pathogen transmissibility between humans, one of them being germs, others being parasites and/or bacteria.

 

The germ and subsequent vaccination paradigm has been the bedrock of an industry worth hundreds of billions of dollars.

 

I believe that the pharmaceutical industry should be State-owned and not driven by profit. As long as it is privately owned, that means it is subjected to the basic rules of trade, namely creating and maintaining demand. Nothing a representative of the pharmaceutical industry says or does is worthy of trust, because they are ultimately driven by profit.

 

Add to that empirical evidence, i.e. what is actually observable and measurable through experience: I never took any Covid shot, nor did my wife and son, and we never caught Covid despite leading pretty normal lives between 2020 and 2022, including international travel. I know several people who are in the same case. Remember that the media and politicians assured us that we would regret not taking the shot because it was tantamount to certain death. This was false, they lied and that matters. What is the reason for that lie? Delve into the contracts between the pharmaceutical industry and Ursula von der Leyen, who is mentioned in the video in the OP, and there is your answer, or at least part of it.

 

Oh but it is that simple - do viruses exist ?

 

As the 'only' non-delusional anti-vaxxer on this forum (that I have read thus far) - surely you can answer that clearly... 

 

It's possible for you to 'believe' vaccines are ineffective and at the same time recognise the fundamental flaw in the delusion that viruses do not exist.

 

 

 

 

23 minutes ago, Miloki said:

Does this apply to Fauci, the media, and the governments that lied about the vax?

You do remember they lied, correct?  Or do you need a history lesson already?

And yes, I do believe viruses exist.

 

So are you 'anti-vax' or just 'anti-covid-vax' ??

 

It might be an important distinction... 

 

I can understand the questions raised over the mRNA vaccines, and I can even understand the distrust directed at governments whose exaggerated claims and flawed messaging during Covid did little to inspire confidence. Yet to extend that scepticism to well-established vaccines – whose efficacy has been demonstrated time and again with overwhelming evidence – is, in my view, the realm of the foolish. To conflate legitimate caution with wholesale denial is to abandon reason altogether.

 

13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Oh but it is that simple - do viruses exist ?

 

As the 'only' non-delusional anti-vaxxer on this forum (that I have read thus far) - surely you can answer that clearly... 

 

It's possible for you to 'believe' vaccines are ineffective and at the same time recognise the fundamental flaw in the delusion that viruses do not exist.

 

 

 

 

 

No, I don't think it's that simple. Binary, dichotomic reasoning is often more detrimental than anything else.

 

I will try to keep it simple nonetheless. I subscribe to Antoine Béchamp's statement that "the microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything". And I am convinced that the pharmaceutical industry went all in with the virus paradigm for profit and profit only.

 

So when I hear someone say viruses don't exist, I am not shocked by it at all. The truth is that ultimately, it doesn't matter that much to me.

 

And if you insist on putting me in one of the two boxes, then yes, the closest one to my rationale would probably be the "No, they don't exist" one.

27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I can understand the questions raised over the mRNA vaccines, and I can even understand the distrust directed at governments whose exaggerated claims and flawed messaging during Covid did little to inspire confidence.

 

 

It's good that you have changed your mind over the past three years. The message below, from 2022, was your response to a poster expressing reticence to the Covid vaccine because of the available safety data.

 

This demonstrates that you can be sure of something today, but less sure tomorrow. A valuable principle to bear in mind.

 

 

 

Post bickering about grammar removed. Replies also removed.

8 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

What a load of self-righteous bull!

 

as a response to mr smith ......... your best one yet !

 

( i am sure i am subjecting myself to countless more diatribes from that arrogant poster by voicing my opinion ........ but hey , but whose counting  hahaha)

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Oh but it is that simple - do viruses exist ?

 

As the 'only' non-delusional anti-vaxxer on this forum (that I have read thus far) - surely you can answer that clearly... 

 

It's possible for you to 'believe' vaccines are ineffective and at the same time recognise the fundamental flaw in the delusion that viruses do not exist.

As I've only had 3 or 4 vaccines in my life and appear to be reasonably healthy age 70, I can only assume either vaccines are unnecessary, or I'm the luckiest person in the world.

 

To those that say, other people being vaccinated saved me, I can only think I've spent a lot of my life wandering 3rd world countries full of unvaccinated locals and having intimate contact with them while remaining mainly disease free.

 

Tetanus x2 when I was a kid, no boosters for 50 years, no tetanus, so lucky lucky lucky.

 

Do virus exist?

Does god exist?

Irrelevant to my life!

 

But I do sometimes wonder at all those people with allergies, food intolerances, asthma, diabetes none of which I have while stuffing my face with chocolate and sugar every day and breathing the Chiang Mai air. More luck I guess!

You guys toss so much &*(^ at the wall, if you find something that is real.  No one is going to believe you. 

17 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Please! No more vaccine topics.

I'm afraid they're not going away any time soon. Too many crazies out there. What we really need is a major culling of the human race. I think Covid was supposed to do that, but a good vaccine prevented that from happening.

17 hours ago, phetphet said:

I'm not a vaccine sceptic,  but this video, presented by Naomi Wolf to the EU Commission. about the Pfizer MRNA vaccine and it's after effects is very interesting.

 

 

Naomi Wolfe is a crackpot. Claimed the vaccines were software that allowed uploads, caused mass murder, sterilization, miscarriages, cancer, that they were bioweapons. Naomi Klein wrote a book called Doppleganger describing the problems she'd had by being confused with Wolfe.

2 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

No, I don't think it's that simple. Binary, dichotomic reasoning is often more detrimental than anything else.

 

I will try to keep it simple nonetheless. I subscribe to Antoine Béchamp's statement that "the microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything". And I am convinced that the pharmaceutical industry went all in with the virus paradigm for profit and profit only.

 

So when I hear someone say viruses don't exist, I am not shocked by it at all. The truth is that ultimately, it doesn't matter that much to me.

 

And if you insist on putting me in one of the two boxes, then yes, the closest one to my rationale would probably be the "No, they don't exist" one.

Yeah, tell that to all the people who got syphilis before antibiotics were invented. 

36 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

Yeah, tell that to all the people who got syphilis before antibiotics were invented. 

Antibiotics work against bacteria you already have ........ not virus that you don't have.