Foz my go to

 

https://ground.news/article/charlie-kirk-was-not-a-saint-fox-news-host-defies-right-wing-spin-on-dead-maga-legend

On 9/13/2025 at 5:26 PM, stevenl said:

On 9/13/2025 at 5:19 PM, LosLobo said:

The Kirk family kids and the US deserve closure, not a circus. 

Completely agree.

 

If the Kirk family grown-ups have already agreed to the White House hijacking this murder for political gain or deflection by letting Vance fly the body home on Air force 2, then giving his kids closure isn't too high on their list.

On 9/12/2025 at 10:04 PM, novacova said:

Good, they caught the guy who was inspired by the hate rhetoric of the extreme left media and politicians which needs accountability.

I am not sure I understand what you mean.  Kirk was a facist, hated transgenders, hated women with any power, racists from the word go, and was known as a rightist conservative.  His killer was raised by Republicans but those without hate of all the rest  seem to really believe in today.  All extremists must be shunned if they keep trying to push their belief onto all the rest of us IMHO anyway.  I was originally a registered republican when I became of age to vote, then seeing Nixon as the leader and a known crook, I changed, but do not follow most of the Democratic ideology so registered as an independent and for decades it was vote for the least dangerous person and then it finally came down to not voting at all as they all seem to have too many skeletons in their closets and beholding to the superPACs and ultra rich folks IMHO.  But in any case, Kirk did not deserve to end his life in this fashion.  

This independent reporter lambasts Charlie Kirk for what he stood for , but he slowly brings you to the truth about what happened to Charlie Kirk. If you still don't know what happened to him after this , I don't know what to say.

 

Put The Sunday Wire EP 560 in YouTube to hear it.

 

PS

JD Vance announces he will host The Charlie Kirk Show on Monday. (Lol, in case you under estimated the importance of Charlie Kirk, the VP of the US will be hosting his show)

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Presnock said:

I am not sure I understand what you mean.  Kirk was a facist, hated transgenders, hated women with any power, racists from the word go, and was known as a rightist conservative

 

According to the (UK) Daily Telegraph, the shooter was in a romantic relationship with a transgender room mate.

 

Have at it. Something there for the rabbits of both the left, and the right.

 

(You know who you are)

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/09/14/charlie-kirk-assassin-relationship-transgender-roommate/

5 hours ago, Presnock said:

I am not sure I understand what you mean.  Kirk was a facist, hated transgenders, hated women with any power, racists from the word go, and was known as a rightist conservative.  His killer was raised by Republicans but those without hate of all the rest  seem to really believe in today.  All extremists must be shunned if they keep trying to push their belief onto all the rest of us IMHO anyway.  I was originally a registered republican when I became of age to vote, then seeing Nixon as the leader and a known crook, I changed, but do not follow most of the Democratic ideology so registered as an independent and for decades it was vote for the least dangerous person and then it finally came down to not voting at all as they all seem to have too many skeletons in their closets and beholding to the superPACs and ultra rich folks IMHO.  But in any case, Kirk did not deserve to end his life in this fashion.  

That the left has to lie incessantly about Charlie Kirk just proves what a great American he was.

 

 

6 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

If the Kirk family grown-ups have already agreed to the White House hijacking this murder for political gain or deflection by letting Vance fly the body home on Air force 2, then giving his kids closure isn't too high on their list.

The left accusing the right of politicizing a shooting. 
 

 

9 hours ago, Harsh Jones said:

JD Vance announces he will host The Charlie Kirk Show on Monday. (Lol, in case you under estimated the importance of Charlie Kirk, the VP of the US will be hosting his show)

 

I hope JD doesn't underestimate the importance of wearing Kevlar.

 

(Queue the overly excitable righties getting themselves all in a lather because by making the above, tongue-in-cheek comment, it looks like I am invoking the notion that assassination is perfectly acceptable, therefore I must be a despicable lefty)

 

Go ahead, make my day.

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Pulitzer prize winner Chris Hedges covered the Kirk assassination on his show. The relevant stuff starts 2 minutes in

 

https://youtu.be/Uf7zr5Thz64?si=4p_6l4jSi24xhmuk

On 9/15/2025 at 10:24 AM, NorthernRyland said:

 

These were the kinds of things Charlie Kirk was trying to explain so at the least the two sides understand each other. I don't know if you understand both sides of the gun debate but even if you do it doesn't mean we agree. 

Understood. Kirk's 'explaining" I found wanting. Yes, as an American who owned 7 guns and was certified to hold a CDWL and having a bit a grasp of US history, I do understand the gun debate. Vehemently disagreeing with Kirk's premise that deaths are necessary to preserve the 2nd amendment.

8 hours ago, Wrwest said:

Understood. Kirk's 'explaining" I found wanting. Yes, as an American who owned 7 guns and was certified to hold a CDWL and having a bit a grasp of US history, I do understand the gun debate. Vehemently disagreeing with Kirk's premise that deaths are necessary to preserve the 2nd amendment.

 

Not sure he would say "deaths are necessary to preserve" but rather having casualties is better than disarming the population and giving the government a monopoly on guns.  Basically risk vs reward.

 

For example I know it's dangerous to ride motorbikes or cycle in Thailand but I do it anyways despite knowing the risks because I think it's worth it.

13 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Not sure he would say "deaths are necessary to preserve" but rather having casualties is better than disarming the population and giving the government a monopoly on guns.  Basically risk vs reward.

 

For example I know it's dangerous to ride motorbikes or cycle in Thailand but I do it anyways despite knowing the risks because I think it's worth it.

“I think it is worth to have the cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second Amendment to protect our other Second Amendment rights”. - PBS Newshour video of Charlie Kirk speaking.

1 hour ago, Wrwest said:

“I think it is worth to have the cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second Amendment to protect our other Second Amendment rights”. - PBS Newshour video of Charlie Kirk speaking.

 

That's what I said above? What do you think he's saying? Not sure what you disagree with.

23 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

That's what I said above? What do you think he's saying? Not sure what you disagree with.

Sorry I was not clear. He said deaths were necessary ... I disagree that the preservation of rights is dependent on deaths.

 The vast majority of murders are perpetrated by people known to the victim. This killing is likely no exception. Charlie Kirk touched almost every 3rd rail of Israeli politics weeks before his death. He was questioning if the Oct 7th Hamas attack was allowed to happen. He kept bringing up Jeffery Epstien and how he was a Mossad agent. And he was saying the words "ethnic cleansing" with regard to the war in Gaza. This is coming from a guy who has been groomed by the Israel lobby for the last 10 years to become a future US president. He took their silver and crossed them. So then he took their lead. 

 

 

 

https://youtu.be/ZFvXQCQKnH4?si=1JnECNM8K_ABJWoZ

In this episode of 51-49, James Li unpacks the unanswered questions surrounding Charlie Kirk’s death — from repeated denials that don’t line up with history, to reports of unusual activity at the scene, to high-profile figures who allegedly tried to steer Kirk back into line. With missing footage, shaky evidence, and even people inside his own circle expressing doubts about the official story, James asks: was this really just one man acting alone, or something far bigger? 0:00 lsrael Denies Any Involvement 1:57 Charlie Kirk's Awakening 6:50 The Evidence 12:53 A "Professional Hit"

 

 

1 minute ago, Harsh Jones said:

 The vast majority of murders are perpetrated by people known to the victim. This killing is likely no exception. Charlie Kirk touched almost every 3rd rail of Israeli politics weeks before his death. He was questioning if the Oct 7th Hamas attack was allowed to happen. He kept bringing up Jeffery Epstien and how he was a Mossad agent. And he was saying the words "ethnic cleansing" with regard to the war in Gaza. This is coming from a guy who has been groomed by the Israel lobby for the last 10 years to become a future US president. He took their silver and crossed them. So then he took their lead. 

 

 

 

https://youtu.be/ZFvXQCQKnH4?si=1JnECNM8K_ABJWoZ

In this episode of 51-49, James Li unpacks the unanswered questions surrounding Charlie Kirk’s death — from repeated denials that don’t line up with history, to reports of unusual activity at the scene, to high-profile figures who allegedly tried to steer Kirk back into line. With missing footage, shaky evidence, and even people inside his own circle expressing doubts about the official story, James asks: was this really just one man acting alone, or something far bigger? 0:00 lsrael Denies Any Involvement 1:57 Charlie Kirk's Awakening 6:50 The Evidence 12:53 A "Professional Hit"

 

 

Are tin foil hats on special this week?

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Are tin foil hats on special this week?

 

Just nevermind. If you've lived this long believing everything you see on TV, you might as well keep at it. 

Great police work! One phone call from his father...