Color me surprised:  Researchers Found Unvaccinated Children Healthier Than Vaccinated

Now, had the researcher found that Vaccinated Children Healthier Than Unvaccinated, the paper would fit the "commonly accepted narrative" and would have been published.
But?
The researchers found that Unvaccinated Children Healthier Than Vaccinated - so they didn’t publish findings.

Post "pandemic" this is called, "Trusting The Science."  

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/researchers-found-unvaccinated-children-healthier-than-vaccinated-didnt-publish-findings-5912680

Opps someone let the cat out of the bag !

 

How the Corruption of Science has Impacted Public Perception and
Policies Regarding Vaccines

Senate hearing

 

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/investigations/hearings/how-the-corruption-of-science-has-impacted-public-perception-and-policies-regarding-vaccines/

 

transcript relating to the study comparing vax vs unvaxed kids that was suppressed by the authors.

 

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/Siri-Testimony-1.pdf

 

 

This matches my observations in the real world.

Interesting - one study.

 

Maybe you would like to give more details on the study's sampling methodology.

 

Then try a "Google Scholar" search to see if you can find any similar studies.

 

I went to my local 711 - the service was crap - I will never go to 711 again.

And here the LINK to that 'inconvenient' study conducted by Henry Ford Medical Institute researchers that hoped with their study of +18.000 children over a period of more than a decade to prove once for all the benefits of the child inoculation scheme.  The study was conducted some 4 years ago, but confronted with the results showing that vaccinated children were multiple times more prone to chronic diseases than unvaccinated children, the researchers decided not to publish it as it would be a job and career-killer doing so.  

In his testimony for the congressional committee on the child inoculation schedule, Aaron Siri's testimony went into depth addressing the findings of that study, and it has just now been added to the official records of that hearing. 

> https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/Entered-into-hearing-record-Impact-of-Childhood-Vaccination-on-Short-and-Long-Term-Chronic-Health-Outcomes-in-Children-A-Birth-Cohort-Study.pdf 

On 9/13/2025 at 10:37 AM, connda said:

Color me surprised:  Researchers Found Unvaccinated Children Healthier Than Vaccinated

Now, had the researcher found that Vaccinated Children Healthier Than Unvaccinated, the paper would fit the "commonly accepted narrative" and would have been published.
But?
The researchers found that Unvaccinated Children Healthier Than Vaccinated - so they didn’t publish findings.

Post "pandemic" this is called, "Trusting The Science."  

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/researchers-found-unvaccinated-children-healthier-than-vaccinated-didnt-publish-findings-5912680

VERY trustworthy reliable source 😂😂😂😂

3 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

Interesting - one study.

Maybe you would like to give more details on the study's sampling methodology.

Then try a "Google Scholar" search to see if you can find any similar studies.

I went to my local 711 - the service was crap - I will never go to 711 again.

 

Here the link to a Sept 2023 overview of studies comparing the health of vaccinated vs unvaccinated, compiled by prof Fred NAZAR. 

 > https://scientificprogress.substack.com/

 

Note that it does not mention the Henri Ford Medical Institute study (mentioned in my previous post), as that one was just now released after being stonewalled for +4 years. That study is not just a 'smoking gun' but a veritable bazooka. 

 

 

 

Washington Post and MSN headlines of September 12, 2025

 

 

 

Reports say Trump-appointed officials are preparing to tell the CDC that 25 children may have died after COVID vaccines — and Pfizer and Moderna shares dipped as the story spread (Washington Post; MSN).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/09/12/covid-vaccine-child-death-cdc/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/moderna-pfizer-stocks-fall-as-trump-officials-reportedly-link-covid-shots-to-child-deaths/ar-AA1MrbVc

= = = 

If you’re asking, “Only 25?” you’re not alone.

Why that number? How was it reached? Which cases were counted, and which were left out?

For years, parents said their concerns were ignored, now officials are hinting at a pattern.

That should mean open files, independent autopsies, and real transparency, not spin control.

You left out the part about how this all likely is yet another disinformation campaign by anti-vax misinformation king RFK Jr. and his political crony appointees at the FDA trying to discredit COVID vaccines that have saved millions of lives.

 

From the same Washington Post report:

 

"The findings appear to be based on information submitted to the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), which contains unverified reports of side effects or bad experiences with vaccines submitted by anyone, including patients, doctors, pharmacists or even someone who sees a report on social media. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention emphasizes that the database is not designed to assess whether a shot caused a death, a conclusion that requires thorough investigations by scientists and public health professionals.  [emphasis added]

 

AND

 

"Noel Brewer, a public health professor at the University of North Carolina and one of the vaccine advisers terminated by Kennedy, said the focus on vaccine harms ignores the harms of the coronavirus. “They are leveraging this platform to share untruths about vaccines to scare people,” Brewer said. “The U.S. government is now in the business of vaccine misinformation.”

 

On 9/13/2025 at 10:37 AM, connda said:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/researchers-found-unvaccinated-children-healthier-than-vaccinated-didnt-publish-findings-5912680

 

The Epoch Times – Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE

"Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right Biased and Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories, as well as numerous failed fact checks"

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The Epoch Times – Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE

"Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right Biased and Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories, as well as numerous failed fact checks"

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/

 

Johnni keeps on shooting the messenger.  The Epoch Times simply reported the main finding of the bombshell study that Aaron Siri unveiled during his congressional testimony last week.  

 

And here the LINK to that 'inconvenient' study which is now in the congressional records. 

It was conducted by Henry Ford Medical Institute researchers that hoped with their study of +18.000 children over a period of more than a decade to prove once and for all the benefits of the child inoculation scheme. 

The study was conducted some 4 years ago, but confronted with the results showing that vaccinated children were multiple times more prone to chronic diseases than unvaccinated children, the researchers decided not to publish it as it would be a job and career-killer doing so.  

In his testimony for the congressional committee on the child inoculation schedule, Aaron Siri's testimony went into depth addressing the findings of that study, and it has just now been added to the official records of that hearing. 

> https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/Entered-into-hearing-record-Impact-of-Childhood-Vaccination-on-Short-and-Long-Term-Chronic-Health-Outcomes-in-Children-A-Birth-Cohort-Study.pdf 

 

This is a landmark study and has the potential to bring down the whole sordid Child Inoculation scheme.  

4 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/Entered-into-hearing-record-Impact-of-Childhood-Vaccination-on-Short-and-Long-Term-Chronic-Health-Outcomes-in-Children-A-Birth-Cohort-Study.pdf 

 

Read the final sentence of their document:

 

"Our preliminary findings cannot prove causality and warrant further investigation."  [emphasis added]

 

AND

 

"We lacked information on socioeconomic status, or potentially relevant post birth factors, such as diet or lifestyle..."

 

Science Feedback

2023-07-28

 

"Childhood vaccination helps to reduce the risk of potentially serious diseases, including measles and polio. Large-scale, reputable studies have not found a greater incidence of adverse health outcomes in vaccinated children compared to unvaccinated children. Ingredients in childhood vaccines aren’t present in toxic amounts. The American Academy of Pediatricians recommends on-time routine immunization of all children and adolescents according to the CDC’s Recommended Child and Adolescent Immunization Schedule." [emphasis added]

 

"Dozens of well-performed scientific studies have established that vaccination doesn’t raise the risk of adverse health outcomes, including neurodevelopmental delays and infections. On the contrary, vaccination increases the ability of the immune system to fight against potentially dangerous infections such as measles and polio."

 

"A 2020 Cochrane Review of 138 studies showed no evidence supporting an association of MMR vaccination with asthma, bacterial or viral infections, cognitive delay, type 1 diabetes, dermatitis/eczema, and hay fever^[11]. At least 20 studies have shown that vaccines are not associated with autism."

 

"he U.S. Institute of Medicine concluded in a 2013 review that the childhood immunization schedule is safe^[13]. The VEC at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia has summarized the scientific evidence showing that vaccines are not associated with a higher risk of asthma or allergies and neurodevelopmental problems like attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder. The American Academy of Pediatricians (AAP) has also compiled a list of studies relevant to vaccine safety here." [emphasis added]

 

https://science.feedback.org/review/claim-brian-hooker-unvaccinated-children-healthier-compared-vaccinated-children-flawed-studies/

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Read the final sentence of their document:

"Our preliminary findings cannot prove causality and warrant further investigation."  [emphasis added]

AND

"We lacked information on socioeconomic status, or potentially relevant post birth factors, such as diet or lifestyle..."

 

Yes, a far from uncommon CYA (cover your a$$) statement, and especially relevant for this study considering the bombshell-nature of the findings. 

Here one of the tables in that study of +18.000 children over a period of 16 years.  

Take 15 seconds to compare the results of column 1 (vaxxed) with column 2 (unvaxxed): 

 

Let's see what Henry Ford Health actually has to say about childhood vaccinations:

 

The Importance Of Pediatric Vaccinations

Posted on March 15, 2023

...

Vaccine Myth Busting

"Take it from a pediatrician—rumors about vaccines causing long-term health effects just aren't true. Here, Dr. Kridler debunks several pervasive vaccine myths. ... [emphasis added]

 

Vaccines do not cause autism. This myth has been ongoing for years—but it couldn’t be further from the truth. “The myth stemmed from the MMR vaccine, but it was proven to be completely false,” says Dr. Kridler. “Vaccines do not cause autism. Period.”   

...

Altering your child’s immunization schedule isn't a good idea. Dr. Kridler discourages parents who may want to space out their children’s vaccines. “Some parents are worried about their children getting a few vaccines at once, but these schedules have been carefully created by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and endorsed by the American Academy of Pediatrics,” says Dr. Kridler. “It is easier on a child’s immune system to get certain vaccines all at once, rather than being taxed week after week with a delayed vaccination schedule. In addition, alternative schedules increase a child’s vulnerability to vaccine-preventable diseases.”  

...

Routine childhood boosters are necessary—and they’re formulated with kids in mind. “Some parents ask why their young kids have to get so many booster shots, and it’s because we’re gradually introducing babies to the vaccines to help them develop immunity,” says Dr. Kridler. “Immunity wanes over time, so in order to maintain those protective antibodies, we need additional doses.” 

 

https://www.henryford.com/blog/2023/03/pediatric-vaccines-and-protection

 

More from Henry Ford Health on childhood vaccinations:

 

What You Need To Know About Vaccine Safety

March 15, 2024

 

"The medical community considers vaccination to be one of the biggest public health success stories. Vaccines typically given in early childhood have drastically lowered the incidence of serious illnesses such as measles. In fact, the World Health Organization estimates that since 2000, the measles vaccine has prevented over 25 million deaths worldwide. 

But in recent years, more and more parents have become vaccine hesitant, preferring to delay or even skip certain shots for their children. 

...

Any type of vaccine can have side effects, but most are mild and short-lived. Soreness at the injection site, tiredness, headache, nausea or fever are common side effects your child may experience after a shot. Talk to your doctor about what to expect after your child receives a vaccine and how you can treat side effects.

...

The internet puts an incredible amount of health information at your fingertips. But the problem is that not everything you read online is always 100% accurate. “I encourage my patients to research vaccines and learn about how they work and why they’re safe,” says Dr. Civil. “But you need to go to reliable sources, and not get important health advice from TikTok.” 

 

https://www.henryford.com/blog/2024/03/what-you-need-to-know-about-vaccine-safety

 

OP, tell that to my friends wife. Got pregnant in the 1960's, unmarried at the time. Caught German measles and gave birth to a deaf,dumb and blind girl.

The family have been through constant challenges all their lives.

 

Bet she would have loved to have had the MMR vaccine.

 

Read a story about a young mum, didn't believe in vaccines, whose baby got whooping cough. Scared crap out of her and she now believes in vaccines.

 

 

Believe what you want. My kids are vaccinated as are theirs.

 

Mind you scaring people away from vaccines is one way of reducing the population I guess. Perhaps that's the goal, who knows.

 

Does this seem like an issue?  They compared babies with issues from birth to people with issues from birth. 

 

 

11 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

OP, tell that to my friends wife. Got pregnant in the 1960's, unmarried at the time. Caught German measles and gave birth to a deaf,dumb and blind girl.

The family have been through constant challenges all their lives.

Bet she would have loved to have had the MMR vaccine.

Read a story about a young mum, didn't believe in vaccines, whose baby got whooping cough. Scared crap out of her and she now believes in vaccines.

Believe what you want. My kids are vaccinated as are theirs.

Mind you scaring people away from vaccines is one way of reducing the population I guess. Perhaps that's the goal, who knows.

 

Personal experience and anecdotes color everybody's beliefs.  

It's not that I don't believe what you wrote, but my experience is totally different having only seen harmful effects of vaccine uptake. 

 

That's why this Henry Ford Institute study is so important, as it goes beyond the anecdotal and shows the chronic health conditions of +18.000 children over a period of 16 years, and stratified for vaccination status.  

I re-post the table with the results below, so do give it at least a look, as some believers in the benefits of the child inoculation scheme would like to suppress the brutal facts revealed by that table. 

 

 

Perhaps this is the reason the cited "document" that's the subject of this thread has never been published anywhere... Note the use of the term "Myths" in the news report below.

 

Rinse and repeat: US vaccine hearing on unpublished study debates same myths

The Guardian

Wed 10 Sep 2025

 

"Henry Ford Health’s communications office did not respond to a request for comment in time for publication, but later sent over the following statement via a spokesperson: “This report was not published because it did not meet the rigorous scientific standards we demand as a premier medical research institution. Data has consistently shown vaccinations are a safe and effective way to protect children against potentially life-altering diseases.”

...

Zervos and the other authors of the study were not present at the hearing. The study, which has never been peer-reviewed, is not currently available to the public as a pre-print or in any other form.

...

Jake Scott, a clinical associate professor of infectious diseases at Stanford – and the only physician who served as a witness during the hearing – had a different explanation as to why the study was not published.  In his testimony, Scott said that the study was “fundamentally flawed”, adding that its core problem was that “vaccinated children had twice the follow-up time and substantially more healthcare visits than unvaccinated children." [meaning the vaccinated group with more doctor visits was more likely to receive medical diagnoses, making the comparisons invalid]

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/vaccine-hearing-congress-illness-children

 

 

23 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

OP, tell that to my friends wife. Got pregnant in the 1960's, unmarried at the time. Caught German measles and gave birth to a deaf,dumb and blind girl.

The family have been through constant challenges all their lives.

 

Bet she would have loved to have had the MMR vaccine.

 

Read a story about a young mum, didn't believe in vaccines, whose baby got whooping cough. Scared crap out of her and she now believes in vaccines.

 

 

Believe what you want. My kids are vaccinated as are theirs.

 

Mind you scaring people away from vaccines is one way of reducing the population I guess. Perhaps that's the goal, who knows.

Awful tragedy. German measles (Rubella) vaccine wasn't available until 1970. My mum told me she called the GP out to me for whooping cough as a baby (mid 50s). He told her; 'he can't have whooping cough he's too young. As he turned to walk away fortunately I made the appropriate noise. GP was, apparently, most apologetic!

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Vaccines do not cause autism. This myth has been ongoing for years—but it couldn’t be further from the truth. “The myth stemmed from the MMR vaccine, but it was proven to be completely false,” says Dr. Kridler. “Vaccines do not cause autism. Period.”   

 

Just curious...  If it's not the increase in the vaccine count, what is causing the massive increase in autism over the past 50-60 years?

 

Seems like that would be a good thing to study, eh?  It may not be the vaccines.  But something is causing it and I kinda want to know what that is.  And it only seems appropriate to start by acknowledging the temporal correlation between vaccine count and autism rates over the past 50-60 years, and study it with a fresh set of eyes without preconceived biases (and asses to cover).  It wouldn't be the first time they discovered that the "scientists" got it wrong due to bad science.  Whether deliberate or not.

 

10 minutes ago, impulse said:

Just curious...  If it's not the increase in the vaccine count, what is causing the massive increase in autism over the past 50-60 years?

 

Mostly, due to changes in how autism is diagnosed, more awareness by doctors, and other process issues like better screening:

 

US autism rate continues to rise, CDC says, pointing to greater awareness and better screening

April 15, 2025

 

(CNN) -- A new study from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that the autism diagnosis rate has increased among US children, continuing a long-term trend that experts have largely attributed to better understanding of and screening for the condition.

...

And the rise in autism rates among children probably reflects more positive trends, experts say.

 

“A lot has changed over the years, and this continued rise in prevalence reflects, in part, real progress: increased awareness, broader diagnostic criteria, and more consistent, standardized screening tools have all contributed to more children being identified earlier and more accurately – underscored the need for continued support and investment in the autism community,” Dr. Andy Shih, chief science officer for Autism Speaks, a nonprofit advocacy and research group, said in a statement.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/15/health/autism-rate-cdc-report-2022

 

 

The Importance Of Pediatric Vaccinations

Posted on March 15, 2023

...

Vaccine Myth Busting

"Take it from a pediatrician—rumors about vaccines causing long-term health effects just aren't true. Here, Dr. Kridler debunks several pervasive vaccine myths. ... [emphasis added]

 

Vaccines do not cause autism. This myth has been ongoing for years—but it couldn’t be further from the truth. “The myth stemmed from the MMR vaccine, but it was proven to be completely false,” says Dr. Kridler. “Vaccines do not cause autism. Period.”   

 

https://www.henryford.com/blog/2023/03/pediatric-vaccines-and-protection

 

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Perhaps this is the reason the cited "document" that's the subject of this thread has never been published anywhere:

 

 

The Guardian

Wed 10 Sep 2025

 

"Henry Ford Health’s communications office did not respond to a request for comment in time for publication, but later sent over the following statement via a spokesperson: “This report was not published because it did not meet the rigorous scientific standards we demand as a premier medical research institution. Data has consistently shown vaccinations are a safe and effective way to protect children against potentially life-altering diseases.”

...

Zervos and the other authors of the study were not present at the hearing. The study, which has never been peer-reviewed, is not currently available to the public as a pre-print or in any other form.

...

Jake Scott, a clinical associate professor of infectious diseases at Stanford – and the only physician who served as a witness during the hearing – had a different explanation as to why the study was not published.  In his testimony, Scott said that the study was “fundamentally flawed”, adding that its core problem was that “vaccinated children had twice the follow-up time and substantially more healthcare visits than unvaccinated children." [meaning the vaccinated group with more doctor visits was more likely to receive medical diagnoses]

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/vaccine-hearing-congress-illness-children

 

Here the LINK with the transcript of Aaron SIRI's testimony during the congressional hearing. 

> https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/Siri-Testimony-1.pdf

His account on the background of why the study was conducted (dr Marcus ZERVOS agreed to conduct this study as he believed it would once and for all prove the benefits of child vaccinations) and the reason it was not published (dr Zervos and the Lois Lamerato, Head researcher feared for their job/career, as the results were devastating for the vaxxed). 

 

The matter could be easily solved by subpoening dr Zervos and miss Lamerato and have them testify under oath.  Note that Aaron Siri's testimony was under oath, so the Guardian is actually accusing him of perjury.  

I look forward to how this will play out, Siri is a lawyer and in his place I would sue the Guardian for defamation.  

 

Also note that we might have to wait till 3 October, when the movie about this case, called 'An Inconvenient Study' will be premiered.  

> https://www.aninconvenientstudy.com/

The website already contains a teaser and a trailer of this explosive movie, and the site allows to provide your e-mail so that you will stay informed of any developments.    

 

 

 

 

More nonsense from a bunch of notorious misinformation peddling anti-vaxers... And Aaron Siri is a lawyer who's been involved with the worst of them all, RFK Jr... So no surprise there.

 

RFK Jr key adviser petitioned regulators to revoke approval of polio vaccine

Aaron Siri is helping Trump’s health secretary pick to select top jobs despite long history of attacking vaccines

 

"A key legal adviser to Robert Kennedy Jr, Donald Trump’s pick for health secretary, is at the center of efforts to push federal drug regulators to revoke approval for polio and hepatitis B vaccines for children and block distribution of 13 other critical vaccines, pending further trials.

 

Aaron Siri, a lawyer who has been helping Kennedy select top health administrators as part of the Trump transition process, is deeply embedded in longstanding efforts to force the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to withdraw a raft of vaccines that have saved the lives and health of millions of Americans."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/13/rfk-jr-aaron-siri-polio

 

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Mostly, due to changes in how autism is diagnosed, more awareness by doctors, and other process issues like better screening:

 

That's horsepucky. 

 

Of the thousands of kids I knew growing up, I knew exactly one (count 'em, 1) who was autistic to the point of being non-verbal.  Today, I know of about a dozen from my neighborhood alone.  Call it what you want.  Non-verbal at age 8 or 9 is non-verbal, and it's unmistakable and devastating to the families.

 

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

More nonsense from a bunch of notorious misinformation peddling anti-vaxers... And Aaron Siri is a lawyer who's been involved with the worst of them all, RFK Jr... So no surprise there.

RFK Jr key adviser petitioned regulators to revoke approval of polio vaccine

Aaron Siri is helping Trump’s health secretary pick to select top jobs despite long history of attacking vaccines

 

"A key legal adviser to Robert Kennedy Jr, Donald Trump’s pick for health secretary, is at the center of efforts to push federal drug regulators to revoke approval for polio and hepatitis B vaccines for children and block distribution of 13 other critical vaccines, pending further trials.

 

Aaron Siri, a lawyer who has been helping Kennedy select top health administrators as part of the Trump transition process, is deeply embedded in longstanding efforts to force the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to withdraw a raft of vaccines that have saved the lives and health of millions of Americans."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/13/rfk-jr-aaron-siri-polio

 

I don't think that it is a coincidence that this hit-piece was not published by a US news-outlet, but by the Guardian which falls under British jurisdiction.  

True, the Guardian is not shielded from US lawsuits just because it’s British. But in practice, suing them in the US is harder than suing a US-based outlet, and plaintiffs face big hurdles under the First Amendment.

On 9/13/2025 at 10:37 AM, connda said:

Color me surprised:  Researchers Found Unvaccinated Children Healthier Than Vaccinated

Now, had the researcher found that Vaccinated Children Healthier Than Unvaccinated, the paper would fit the "commonly accepted narrative" and would have been published.
But?
The researchers found that Unvaccinated Children Healthier Than Vaccinated - so they didn’t publish findings.

Post "pandemic" this is called, "Trusting The Science."  

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/researchers-found-unvaccinated-children-healthier-than-vaccinated-didnt-publish-findings-5912680

BS

2 minutes ago, Des1 said:

BS

RE; Vaccinated v Unvaccinated study.

 

Could you not say why you think it is 'BS'?

4 minutes ago, Des1 said:

BS

X 10, or a thousand or a million 555