I wonder if those conspiracy articles of nonsense are going around the world?

And how many of these unscientific reports by unscientific so called experts will follow?

Will you get good marks from your superior when you spread them??

Or a reward?

Please answer. And don't forget that I'm still waiting for an answer about the doctor visit.

5 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Professor Murakami

Is not a Doctor but scientist for "earth and stars". 

Congrats. Excellent source of excellent study.😂🤣🤩🎉🥳🌞⭐

3 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Is not a Doctor but scientist for "earth and stars". 

Congrats. Excellent source of excellent study.😂🤣🤩🎉🥳🌞⭐

Professor Yasufumi Murakami (Tokyo University of Science)

• Position: Professor (Emeritus) in the Department of Biotechnology, Faculty of Engineering, Tokyo University of Science.

• Fields of Expertise: Regenerative Medicine, Molecular Biology, Immunology, Drug Discovery Science.

• Notable Research / Work:

  • Tumor virus research.

  • Development of therapeutic antibodies; over 700 research antibodies produced.

  • Has contributed to genomic research, functional genomics.

• Academic Background: PhD from Graduate School of Pharmaceutical Sciences, University of Tokyo (1984).

• Current Roles: Even as Emeritus, remains active — e.g. vice-director at the Research Center for RNA Science at TUS.

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More blatant lies from Red. Kill your own kids if you want, but leave the rest of us alone. Where is Stiddle and his mindless drivel to corroborate the lies?

1 hour ago, johng said:

 

They are still (rather unconvincingly now)

sticking to  the narrative saying It could be anything we really don't know (or even care to look into it) 

but  what definitely  can't be the cause of these multitude of problems is the  "safe and effectives"

...  anyone with questions or suspicions are just crazy anti-vax conspiracy theorist  science deniers 🤮 

 

 

Excuse me while I laugh  🤣  fact checked  🤑  🤣 

who's gullible and lazy ???   fact checked indeed  by the same 

entities that brought you the whole Covidiocy Plandemic ™  ® ©

in the first place.

 

Fact check it yourself then - Find a 'reputable' source that isn't a hoax or an anti-vaxx site that makes the same claim [that Japan has confirmed over 600,000 deaths as a direct result of mRNA vaccines]....

 

IF this were truly the case you would be able find such information and reports throughout reputable Japanese Media sites such as:

 

Newspapers (the “Big Five”)

Yomiuri Shimbun – The largest circulation newspaper in the world. Slightly conservative/centrist-right editorial tone, generally pro-establishment.

Asahi Shimbun – Major liberal-leaning daily, critical of government and supportive of progressive causes.

Mainichi Shimbun – Also liberal but with a more moderate, analytical style compared to Asahi.

Nikkei (Nihon Keizai Shimbun) – Focused on economics, business and finance. Highly influential in policy and corporate circles.

Sankei Shimbun – Nationalist and conservative editorial line, closest to right-wing positions among the majors.

 

TV networks

NHK (Nippon Hōsō Kyōkai) – The public broadcaster, funded by viewer fees. Officially neutral, though often criticised for being cautious not to upset government.

NTV (Nippon TV) – Commercial broadcaster, generally mainstream conservative.

TBS (Tokyo Broadcasting System) – Commercial, somewhat more liberal compared to NTV/Fuji.

Fuji TV – Commercial, tends to be conservative, populist, with big entertainment programming.

TV Asahi – More liberal, often hosts investigative and critical political coverage.

 

 

IF there were ANY credibility to the claim that the mRNA vaccine killed 600,000 people, the story is significant enough that it would be in all of these outlets - the fact that the story is not picked up by any highlight what a complete and total rubbish this is.

 

This is no great conspiracy - the media is simply capable of fact checking information and ignoring total bo!!ox when it sees it.

Red Pheonix and the fools who align themselves with him on the other hand lack this most basic of skills to check anything the read before posing their drivel.

 

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Professor Yasufumi Murakami (Tokyo University of Science)

• Position: Professor (Emeritus) in the Department of Biotechnology, Faculty of Engineering, Tokyo University of Science.

• Fields of Expertise: Regenerative Medicine, Molecular Biology, Immunology, Drug Discovery Science.

• Notable Research / Work:

  • Tumor virus research.

  • Development of therapeutic antibodies; over 700 research antibodies produced.

  • Has contributed to genomic research, functional genomics.

• Academic Background: PhD from Graduate School of Pharmaceutical Sciences, University of Tokyo (1984).

• Current Roles: Even as Emeritus, remains active — e.g. vice-director at the Research Center for RNA Science at TUS.

---

 

 

Professor Yasufumi Murakami's claims regarding mRNA vaccines have been discredited due to several critical issues:

 

Lack of Peer-Reviewed Evidence: Murakami's assertions were based on data presented by an anti-vaccine activist group, not on peer-reviewed scientific research. The data lacked rigorous statistical analysis and did not account for confounding factors such as age and underlying health conditions. Science Feedback

 

Misinterpretation of Data: The analysis presented in the livestreams showed a peak in mortality rates among vaccinated individuals, but this correlation does not imply causation. The data did not establish a direct link between vaccination and increased mortality. Science Feedback

 

Contradiction with Established Research: Extensive studies have demonstrated that COVID-19 vaccinations are associated with a reduction in mortality rates. Murakami's claims contradict these findings and have been refuted by reputable health organisations. Science Feedback

 

In summary, Professor Murakami's claims have been discredited due to reliance on unverified data, misinterpretation of statistical analyses, and contradiction with established scientific evidence.

 

 

 

 

His [Professor Yasufumi Murakami's] results were a textbook example of “making the theory fit the evidence” (also called confirmation bias in scientific reasoning). Here’s why:

 

Starting with a conclusion:

Murakami and his associates appear to begin with the belief or hypothesis that mRNA vaccines caused mass deaths.

 

Selecting data to support it:

He highlighted mortality peaks 90–120 days after vaccination without properly controlling for confounding factors (age, underlying health conditions, COVID waves, or other causes).

Only data points that seem to support the hypothesis are emphasised, while contradictory evidence (e.g., studies showing vaccines reduce mortality) is ignored.

 

Ignoring alternative explanations:

Excess deaths can result from delayed medical care, demographic trends, or other diseases. The claims largely ignore these factors, yet attribute all excess deaths to vaccination.

 

Misinterpreting correlation as causation:

Observing that deaths and vaccination timing coincide is treated as proof of causation, which is a logical error.

 

 

In proper scientific methodology, theory should follow the evidence: phenomena is observed, then hypotheses formed, and they the hypothesis is tested. Here, it’s reversed - the evidence is bent to fit a pre-existing theory.

 

 

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Professor Yasufumi Murakami (Tokyo University of Science)

• Position: Professor (Emeritus) in the Department of Biotechnology, Faculty of Engineering, Tokyo University of Science.

• Fields of Expertise: Regenerative Medicine, Molecular Biology, Immunology, Drug Discovery Science.

• Notable Research / Work:

  • Tumor virus research.

  • Development of therapeutic antibodies; over 700 research antibodies produced.

  • Has contributed to genomic research, functional genomics.

• Academic Background: PhD from Graduate School of Pharmaceutical Sciences, University of Tokyo (1984).

• Current Roles: Even as Emeritus, remains active — e.g. vice-director at the Research Center for RNA Science at TUS.

---

Why do you send it to me??

I checked it already.

Everybody with a degree can "doctor" such graphs and interpretations and publish this as "News", which are not but nonsense.

Btw.....you don't want to answer questions, do you? Beyond your limits?

Anyway, enjoy life in your strange different world with your strange  different friends.

At the end you wouldn't harm any.

Good day.

3 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Continuously debunking the bunk is a fool's errand.

Facts and science won't change anything.

Might as well have fun with it.

 

 

I would disagree with you about your comment above.

 

Personally speaking, it's been heartening to see the increasing numbers of forum members casually reading the posts here who are coming to recognize that most of the OP posts in this subforum, primarily originating with one member, are simply absolute anti-vaxer, make-up false nonsense scraped from the gutters of the internet using reprehensible, disreputable sources -- as the repeated fact- and source-checking of the content amply shows.

 

Most readers here, I'll assume, are not people who have great expertise in these COVID topics... So maybe the first time they read a big scary-sounding headline here, they'll say, "oh, that sounds bad." But then as they read more, they begin to see clear evidence that the sources are disreputable garbage and the inflammatory claims absolute nonsense.... And they come to realize, this place in particular is a haven for informational garbage.... as the posted fact and source-checking clearly shows.

 

And every time that happens, that person becomes better informed, and more aware of just what's going on here.

 

That's my two cents.

 

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Professor Yasufumi Murakami's claims regarding mRNA vaccines have been discredited due to several critical issues:

 

Lack of Peer-Reviewed Evidence: Murakami's assertions were based on data presented by an anti-vaccine activist group, not on peer-reviewed scientific research. The data lacked rigorous statistical analysis and did not account for confounding factors such as age and underlying health conditions. Science Feedback

 

Misinterpretation of Data: The analysis presented in the livestreams showed a peak in mortality rates among vaccinated individuals, but this correlation does not imply causation. The data did not establish a direct link between vaccination and increased mortality. Science Feedback

 

Contradiction with Established Research: Extensive studies have demonstrated that COVID-19 vaccinations are associated with a reduction in mortality rates. Murakami's claims contradict these findings and have been refuted by reputable health organisations. Science Feedback

 

In summary, Professor Murakami's claims have been discredited due to reliance on unverified data, misinterpretation of statistical analyses, and contradiction with established scientific evidence.

 

 

Excellent commentary...

 

And then add this as the cherry on top:

 

"the data was presented by Yasufumi Murakami, a professor emeritus at Tokyo University of Science. Murakami is also a member of the International Medical Alliance, formerly the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, a group that spread misinformation about COVID-19 treatments and vaccines" [emphasis added]

 

"It’s also worth noting the Japanese database itself cautions that the data doesn’t indicate the cause of death or allow one to establish a connection between death and the vaccine."

 

https://science.feedback.org/review/inadequate-analysis-japan-data-false-covid-vaccine-mortality/

 

 

 

"The Independent Medical Alliance (IMA), formerly The Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), is a small U.S. organization of physicians and former journalists formed in March 2020 that has advocated for various alternative treatments for COVID-19, including the anti-parasitic drug Ivermectin. Paul E. Marik and Pierre Kory lead the group."

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/front-line-covid-19-critical-care-alliance-flccc-bias/

 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Agree with the bolded part of your post

>  there are still plenty of people who are gullible enough to believe any rubbish, no matter how dubious - they persistently flood the fora with volume rather than any content even remotely feasible… 

Now ask yourself - which poster is persistently flooding the fora with his Newspaper clippings and Fact-checker BS? 

I'll give you a hint > he has posted 3 Fact-check responses in response to the OP.  

Outsourcing your critical thinking skills to Pharma-funded fact-check lobby-firms isn't exactly proof of an 'open mind' in my book.  

 

yep.......hypocrites abound on these forums.     And always proclaiming their sources are non biased .     forget it, RP ........ those brain walls are impenetrable

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Find a 'reputable' source that isn't a hoax or an anti-vaxx site that makes the same claim

 It's no surprise that  'reputable  sources' 

(you mean MSM legacy media) are not reporting on the matter  you only have to go back and review all the lies they spouted during the "pandemic" to see the clear agenda.

You may remember that the very same 'reputable  sources'

have failed to report truthfully/accurately or in a timely manner on numerous other very important 

subjects  such as what happened on 9/11,  the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction lies,Biden's cognitive decline..the laptop  Russia Russia Russia..in the UK the contaminated blood scandal..the post master scandal  the list goes on and on.

Independent non MSM  media play a vital role in exposing the

lies...  Snowden, Assange  Wikileaks  etc.

 

Jumping to the conclusion that because the information was not  revealed by 'reputable  sources'  means it is a hoax is flawed IMHO

 

And again  fact checkers  no, no, and  just no !!!

I asked before many times  during the 'pandemic'  who checks the fact check checkers   answer  they check themself  and that's that.

Just like a child who loves his puppy too much and smothers it to death.

1 hour ago, johng said:

 It's no surprise that  'reputable  sources' 

(you mean MSM legacy media) are not reporting on the matter  you only have to go back and review all the lies they spouted during the "pandemic" to see the clear agenda.

You may remember that the very same 'reputable  sources'

have failed to report truthfully/accurately or in a timely manner on numerous other very important 

subjects  such as what happened on 9/11,  the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction lies,Biden's cognitive decline..the laptop  Russia Russia Russia..in the UK the contaminated blood scandal..the post master scandal  the list goes on and on.

Independent non MSM  media play a vital role in exposing the

lies...  Snowden, Assange  Wikileaks  etc.

 

Jumping to the conclusion that because the information was not  revealed by 'reputable  sources'  means it is a hoax is flawed IMHO

 

And again  fact checkers  no, no, and  just no !!!

I asked before many times  during the 'pandemic'  who checks the fact check checkers   answer  they check themself  and that's that.

 

1. such conspiricies clearly exist. the talking point lists have been found, the influencer paymasters revealed, and whole ecosystems of reporter embedding to push climate and race and who knows what else established and unearthed. much of the news and the feeders for the news (like AP) are pay for play activist organizations.

2. where you have sufficiently intense ideology, no conspiracy is required. cognitive dissonace will suffice. when you believe X firmly enough, you will reject evidence that contradicts it. this is an ingrained human trait and one made more acute and irirresistible by the peer pressure of conformity demands. if you are committed and your tribe demands your commitment, contradictory data is simply discarded. and this is the axle upon which modern propaganda practice turns.

lies, damn lies, and post-truth media

el gato malo

Sep 23

 

 

2 hours ago, johng said:

 It's no surprise that  'reputable  sources' 

(you mean MSM legacy media) are not reporting on the matter  you only have to go back and review all the lies they spouted during the "pandemic" to see the clear agenda.

You may remember that the very same 'reputable  sources'

have failed to report truthfully/accurately or in a timely manner on numerous other very important 

subjects  such as what happened on 9/11,  the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction lies,Biden's cognitive decline..the laptop  Russia Russia Russia..in the UK the contaminated blood scandal..the post master scandal  the list goes on and on.

Independent non MSM  media play a vital role in exposing the

lies...  Snowden, Assange  Wikileaks  etc.

 

Jumping to the conclusion that because the information was not  revealed by 'reputable  sources'  means it is a hoax is flawed IMHO

 

And again  fact checkers  no, no, and  just no !!!

I asked before many times  during the 'pandemic'  who checks the fact check checkers   answer  they check themself  and that's that.

 

 

Let’s get real: just because mainstream media didn’t immediately shout about something doesn’t make it a “cover-up.” Remembing the Iraq WMD saga... Authorities fumbled, spin doctors flailed, journalists got some things wrong - but once verifiable evidence appeared, the mainstream press reported it. You can call it a farce, you can complain about attempts at obfuscation, but the facts eventually came out.

If MSM were really part of some global conspiracy, do you really think they’d accidentally stumble onto the truth and report it?

 

Now, let’s talk vaccines. Murakami’s 600,000 deaths claim has been spread far and wide on fringe channels, cloaked in “independent investigation” language. Yet experts dissected it like a science class frog: cherry-picked data, correlation masquerading as causation, and ignored confounders. If MSM ignored that claim, it wasn’t because of some shadowy agenda - it was because the claim was nonsense. You don’t need a conspiracy; you need critical thinking.

 

Independent media is not a magic truth serum. Snowden and Assange exposed real secrets, yes, but the majority of “independent” outlets also run wild with unverified data, speculation, and clickbait. Just because someone’s not on the payroll of a legacy media company does not automatically make them correct - in fact, it often means fewer checks and balances.

 

And fact-checkers? If you think they just “check themselves”.. then that’s cute - but they literally cite studies, official data, and expert reviews. Their goal is verification, not spin. Can they be wrong? Sure. Are they perfect? Nope. But they are infinitely more reliable than a viral post from some blog that misreads graphs and declares mass murder.

 

Finally, the logic that “MSM didn’t report it, therefore it must be true” is laughable. Absence of coverage is not proof; it’s an invitation to look for evidence, not a license to invent it. Real journalists, real scientists, and real fact-checkers don’t operate on gut feelings or paranoia - they follow evidence. And if your only proof is a screenshot on Twitter, congratulations, you’ve just invented a story.

39 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

1. such conspiricies clearly exist. the talking point lists have been found, the influencer paymasters revealed, and whole ecosystems of reporter embedding to push climate and race and who knows what else established and unearthed. much of the news and the feeders for the news (like AP) are pay for play activist organizations.

2. where you have sufficiently intense ideology, no conspiracy is required. cognitive dissonace will suffice. when you believe X firmly enough, you will reject evidence that contradicts it. this is an ingrained human trait and one made more acute and irirresistible by the peer pressure of conformity demands. if you are committed and your tribe demands your commitment, contradictory data is simply discarded. and this is the axle upon which modern propaganda practice turns.

lies, damn lies, and post-truth media

el gato malo

Sep 23

 

Wow, brilliant, insightful stuff....   so apparently every journalist, wire service, and science outlet on the planet is secretly part of an omnipotent, pay-for-play, climate-and-race-propaganda machine, and yet somehow all of them still manage to mess up basic reporting, get scooped by whistleblowers, and occasionally let real scandals like Snowden and Assange slip through?...

 

....  Incredible. This isn’t insight - it’s literally a choose-your-own-adventure fantasy written by someone who thinks pattern recognition equals omniscience.

... Talking points = proof... Embedding = conspiracy... Peer pressure = world domination.... Brilliant - genius !!!

 

...And the cognitive dissonance argument - classic...

 

... Humans reject data that annoys them, therefore all disagreement is automatically “propaganda”?

 

That’s not sociology; that’s a kindergarten-level misunderstanding of human behaviour dressed up in grandiose phrases.

... “Post-truth media”? No, genius - sometimes the news is just… the news. Shocking, I know.

 

Your “tribe, axle of propaganda” logic falls apart the second you notice actual inconvenient truths have always emerged, despite your omniscient media cabal. This isn’t clever; it’s desperate pattern-finding with zero critical thinking and maximum drama...  

 

... its just dim, daft and deranged... 

 

 

6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

IF there were ANY credibility to the claim that the mRNA vaccine killed 600,000 people, the story is significant enough that it would be in all of these outlets - the fact that the story is not picked up by any highlight what a complete and total rubbish this is.

 

What percentage of their advertising revenue comes from Big Pharma?

 

 

12 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Chilling news is emerging from Japan as the nation’s leading experts have uncovered explosive evidence linking skyrocketing excess deaths to Covid mRNA “vaccines.”

A grassroots coalition, United Citizens for Stopping mRNA Vaccines, has forced the release of official vaccination records for 21 million Japanese citizens through a series of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests.

The records include vaccination dates, batch numbers, and post-vaccine death reports.

The results are devastating.

Professor Murakami of Tokyo Science University, a respected scientist, analyzed the data and uncovered a consistent, alarming pattern:

   • A surge in deaths occurred 90–120 days after injection.

   • Those who received multiple doses saw earlier and steeper death spikes, suggesting cumulative toxicity.

   • Murakami estimates that 600,000–610,000 Japanese citizens have been killed by the “vaccines.”

This figure is eerily consistent with Japan’s excess death statistics.

Because these deaths typically happen months after the jab, doctors rarely connect them to the shots, allowing health officials to hide the carnage in plain sight.

 

 

 

Source: https://slaynews.com/news/japan-confirms-600000-citizens-killed-covid-vaccines/

 

 

Is there a paper online written by Professor Murakami of Tokyo University of Science that one can view to read the analysis? 

1 hour ago, impulse said:

7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

IF there were ANY credibility to the claim that the mRNA vaccine killed 600,000 people, the story is significant enough that it would be in all of these outlets - the fact that the story is not picked up by any highlight what a complete and total rubbish this is.

 

What percentage of their advertising revenue comes from Big Pharma?

 

 

I can see where you'd want to go with that...  However, advertising dollars do not create an absolute gag.

 

If there was any factual basis in this story whatsoever - any of the known reputable outlets would be running with it, not just a couple of fringe loon publications that only Red and his anti-vax echo-chamber have dug up... 

 

 

 

9 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Well look on the bright side -- the only people who read this stuff on here are people who read this stuff on here.

A lot of posts that lay bare the mentally incestuous feedback loops amongst the science deniers on AN.

11 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Several reports are reporting on prof Murakami's findings.  

Here a screenshot of some of them: 

Tthey are all  websites that cater to mentally ill  vaccine  obsessives and they use the same source. In effect you have provided  the same false claim multiple times.

4 hours ago, johng said:

 It's no surprise that  'reputable  sources' 

(you mean MSM legacy media) are not reporting on the matter  you only have to go back and review all the lies they spouted during the "pandemic" to see the clear agenda.

You may remember that the very same 'reputable  sources'

have failed to report truthfully/accurately or in a timely manner on numerous other very important 

subjects  such as what happened on 9/11,  the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction lies,Biden's cognitive decline..the laptop  Russia Russia Russia..in the UK the contaminated blood scandal..the post master scandal  the list goes on and on.

Independent non MSM  media play a vital role in exposing the

lies...  Snowden, Assange  Wikileaks  etc.

 

Jumping to the conclusion that because the information was not  revealed by 'reputable  sources'  means it is a hoax is flawed IMHO

 

And again  fact checkers  no, no, and  just no !!!

I asked before many times  during the 'pandemic'  who checks the fact check checkers   answer  they check themself  and that's that.

 

Don't forget the unforgettable .....carried over thousands of TV stations almost word for word  :  "If you take the vaccine , you won't get covid . Period "   (Biden, also head of CDC Walensky)  ...   

and ..........shutting people up  , " just two weeks to flatten the curve"  

 

and......... all those "approved"  sources parrotting , without any proof ... "Safe and Effective"    

 

so please........... some pretty smart guys here can't do the research to find out who OWNS all these media outlets and who pays for the Harvard studies and the Reuters stories and AP  and the washington post and ny times ?    and see how biased cnbc and abc and cnn etc etc etc .  are ?      

 

i never paid attention till the covid madness was being foisted on the world . THAT's when i started reading other sources .   And they were right .  Not all of them.   Not all they wrote.    But much more so than the obvious lies we were being forced to accept .  Not to mention taking unproved shots .     

I know a lot of you are sorry now.    Why you don't admit it...... who knows.    But to still curse and slander those small percent who stood their ground ,  pretty sad .

WHY are you not really pssd at the ones responsible for what transpired over the last 10 years ?    

 

2 hours ago, rumak said:

Why you don't admit it...... who knows.

 

Denial.

 

McCullough nails it in the below clip. He's talking about doctors, but I think it applies to the broader public too.

 

 

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I can see where you'd want to go with that...  However, advertising dollars do not create an absolute gag.

 

If there was any factual basis in this story whatsoever - any of the known reputable outlets would be running with it, not just a couple of fringe loon publications that only Red and his anti-vax echo-chamber have dug up... 

   

Sorry.  I'm a little more jaded. 

 

Big Pharma (and insurance companies) are responsible for a huge chunk of advertising dollars and funding the vast majority of "the science", and donating $billions to politicians.

 

I trust neither the MSM, nor the studies when Pharma has such a powerful sway over what studies get funded, which get published, and which get squelched.  Don't get me started about politicians...

 

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Posted September 14

My apologies for bombarding you all with my relentless anti-vaxxer stance and the mis-information that I spread. 

But reading this article made me finally see the light.  

> https://www.newsguardrealitycheck.com/p/cdcs-new-vaccine-panel-head-is-a?open=false#§head-of-new-federal-covid-vaccine-task-force-is-a-covid-myth-superspreader

It states that: 

With almost 700 million Covid-19 doses given in the US, that's about 0.00000145 % 

Sorry for having wasted your time with all my conspiracy nonsense.

 

It was a tongue in cheek jibe at the recent lie  published by a captured government agency that only 8 poeple had died from experimental emergency use approved mRNA concoctions.

 

What I see is that those who have been injected with an experimental product for Covid and the fear is growing of admitting that they were wrong. If we look at public hospitals, they are overwhelmed by the ever-increasing number of patients arriving.

 

There must be a reason for the increase in deaths you see around you, but prefer to look the other way.

11 hours ago, rumak said:

 

1. such conspiricies clearly exist. the talking point lists have been found, the influencer paymasters revealed, and whole ecosystems of reporter embedding to push climate and race and who knows what else established and unearthed. much of the news and the feeders for the news (like AP) are pay for play activist organizations.

2. where you have sufficiently intense ideology, no conspiracy is required. cognitive dissonace will suffice. when you believe X firmly enough, you will reject evidence that contradicts it. this is an ingrained human trait and one made more acute and irirresistible by the peer pressure of conformity demands. if you are committed and your tribe demands your commitment, contradictory data is simply discarded. and this is the axle upon which modern propaganda practice turns.

lies, damn lies, and post-truth media

el gato malo

Sep 23

 

Yes, a very astute observation by The Bad Cat.  

You can read the full article on his Bad Cattitude substack 

> https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/lies-damn-lies-and-post-truth-media

 

12 minutes ago, johng said:

It was a tongue in cheek jibe at the recent lie  published by a captured government agency that only 8 poeple had died from experimental emergency use approved mRNA concoctions.

 

hahaha   only 9 deaths attributed to the vaccine.    only our esteemed MSM worshippers could not see the "tongue in cheek" ..... or better yet..... the absurdity of that claim.

 

They don't even read any of the govt's or pharmas own admissions .     the bricks surrounding their brain walls are inpenetrable

11 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

 

 

Let’s get real: just because mainstream media didn’t immediately shout about something doesn’t make it a “cover-up.” Remembing the Iraq WMD saga... Authorities fumbled, spin doctors flailed, journalists got some things wrong - but once verifiable evidence appeared, the mainstream press reported it. You can call it a farce, you can complain about attempts at obfuscation, but the facts eventually came out.

If MSM were really part of some global conspiracy, do you really think they’d accidentally stumble onto the truth and report it?

 

Now, let’s talk vaccines. Murakami’s 600,000 deaths claim has been spread far and wide on fringe channels, cloaked in “independent investigation” language. Yet experts dissected it like a science class frog: cherry-picked data, correlation masquerading as causation, and ignored confounders. If MSM ignored that claim, it wasn’t because of some shadowy agenda - it was because the claim was nonsense. You don’t need a conspiracy; you need critical thinking.

 

Independent media is not a magic truth serum. Snowden and Assange exposed real secrets, yes, but the majority of “independent” outlets also run wild with unverified data, speculation, and clickbait. Just because someone’s not on the payroll of a legacy media company does not automatically make them correct - in fact, it often means fewer checks and balances.

 

And fact-checkers? If you think they just “check themselves”.. then that’s cute - but they literally cite studies, official data, and expert reviews. Their goal is verification, not spin. Can they be wrong? Sure. Are they perfect? Nope. But they are infinitely more reliable than a viral post from some blog that misreads graphs and declares mass murder.

 

Finally, the logic that “MSM didn’t report it, therefore it must be true” is laughable. Absence of coverage is not proof; it’s an invitation to look for evidence, not a license to invent it. Real journalists, real scientists, and real fact-checkers don’t operate on gut feelings or paranoia - they follow evidence. And if your only proof is a screenshot on Twitter, congratulations, you’ve just invented a story.

 

Yep, let's get real:  your rebuttal is nothing more than a steaming heap of righteous bull defending your ingrained belief - in spite of all the evidence to the contrary - that mainstream reporting of controversial issues has 'our best interests at heart', while it as good as always turns out later that they were just pushing their paid Agenda.